Tubes for Jolida

leroyjr1
leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
edited June 2011 in Electronics
Need some good tube recommendations for the Jolida 100a cdp.

Thanks
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2011
    Sylvania 3 mice Black Plate 5751s
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2011
    6moons recommends GE 5751 triple mica black plates. I do not have this player, yet but thinking hard about the sale that is going on.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited February 2011
    What are you playing it through and what speakers? Also, what tubes have you tried and what improvements would you be looking for?
    2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
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  • Stew
    Stew Posts: 645
    edited February 2011
    TJ Full Music 12AX7's
    SDA 2B-TL (Sonicap/Solen/Mills, Erse Super Q, Rings, Spikes, No-Rez)
    1000VA Dreadnought
    Dared SL-2000a (Siemens & Halske TM 12AT7WA's, Brimar 5Z4G)
    Jolida JD-100a (Sylvania BP TM Gold Brand 5751's), NAD C275BEE, Blue Jeans

    RTiA3, Onkyo TX-SR605
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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,072
    edited February 2011
    Shuguang Psvane's
    SystemLuxman L-590AXII Integrated Amplifier|KEF Reference 1 Loudspeakers|PS Audio Directream Jr|Sansui TU-9900 Tuner|TEAC A-6100 RtR|Nakamichi RX-202 Cassette
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited March 2011
    Anyone try Sovtek 12AX7LPS Vacuum Tubes?

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=072-425
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited March 2011
    NOS 60's vintage RCA 12AX7
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited March 2011
    acmf74 wrote: »
    Anyone try Sovtek 12AX7LPS Vacuum Tubes?

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=072-425

    Yes, my recommendation is to stay away. Sovtek tubes came stock in my Anthem Pre1L preamp and come stock in many OEM tube components. There are many better sounding tubes out there, and some of them can be picked up at pretty reasonable prices depending on the tube type/size.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited March 2011
    I've heard EI-gold pins pop up. Anyone know where to find a nice pair?
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2011
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    I've heard EI-gold pins pop up. Anyone know where to find a nice pair?

    They are out there but rare and expensive.

    Maybe Jesse can confirm but I have heard the same version of the Ei without gold pins are just as good.

    I now have the JD100 and have tried Sylvania 3 mica BP D getter which is about $200 a pair and I have in the player now Treasure 12AX7s still burning in.

    While I still prefer the Syls the treasures sound great especially at half the price.

    I probably will put the Syls back in after the treasures are burned in and see which I like best. If margain is small I will sell the Syls.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • Dawgfish
    Dawgfish Posts: 2,554
    edited March 2011
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    I've heard EI-gold pins pop up. Anyone know where to find a nice pair?

    While I did not try 12AX7s EI gold pins, I did try a set of EI gold pin 6922s and in my system to my ears they just sounded flat and tinny. I much preferred the NOS Mullard, Amperex, RCA, Phillips, and Sylvania tubes I tried. They all sounded much fuller and richer than the EIs to me.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2011
    Not to steal the thread here guys. But what kind of 'life' do you get out of these various tubes. I noticed on the Jolida sites? One says 1000 hours warranty on tubes, the other 3 months. Surely tubes LAST longer than that--at least I hope they do because dishing out a few hundred dollars for tubes a couple of times a year is not going to cut it. I'm still mulling over the Jolida Music Van (the higher/newer model CDP) uses four tubes (in/out). I heard this model and was quite impressed with it. Although it must be added that it was paired with the best separates Jolida makes (the Music Envoy Monoblocks and associated tube pre along with a pair of fairly large Tannoy floorstanders). A really NICE sounding system!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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  • jhw59
    jhw59 Posts: 348
    edited March 2011
    I rolled these into my 100: 12AX7 Amperex matched pair -NOS (just under at 1500/1500gm 1500/1500gm) 1962 SEP. & OCT. large halo. Very nice sound

    I also bought (but haven't installed): NOS RCA BP 12AT7
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,011
    edited March 2011
    They are out there but rare and expensive.

    Maybe Jesse can confirm but I have heard the same version of the Ei without gold pins are just as good.

    Both are true.
    While I did not try 12AX7s EI gold pins, I did try a set of EI gold pin 6922s

    Completely different tubes. The 12AX7's in the Jolida are anything but flat and tinny.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,011
    edited March 2011
    Not to steal the thread here guys. But what kind of 'life' do you get out of these various tubes. I noticed on the Jolida sites? One says 1000 hours warranty on tubes, the other 3 months. Surely tubes LAST longer than that--at least I hope they do because dishing out a few hundred dollars for tubes a couple of times a year is not going to cut it.

    In general, 9 pin signal tubes last a very, very long time. I've been running the same Ei set in my modded Jolida since 2006 and it's on most of the time. Those stock Jolida tubes are crap and it may be that they will not last long.

    Power tubes are an entirely different story.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,465
    edited March 2011
    I think I've had my Ei set in since '08 and it's on most of the time as well.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited March 2011
    I never pulled tubes out before. Do they just pop out or is there a tool/skill needed?

    Thanks
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  • Timothy Smith
    Timothy Smith Posts: 764
    edited March 2011
    Hey Leroy,

    How does the Jolida sound with the stck tubes?

    Is it a big improvement over your Rotel 1072?

    Thanks
    Norh ACA-2B tube pre, Sumo Andromeda SS amp. Magneplanar MMG speakers, M&K MX1250 Subwoofer, Pro-Ject RM1.3 Genie TT with Sumiko Pearl MM cart., Keces DAC, Cambridge Audio Azur 640c CD player
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited March 2011
    Timothy Smith wrote: »
    Hey Leroy,

    How does the Jolida sound with the stck tubes?

    Is it a big improvement over your Rotel 1072?

    Thanks


    It hasn't arrived yet. I've heard from two polkies that's it a improvement over the 1072.
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  • Mike Reeter
    Mike Reeter Posts: 4,315
    edited March 2011
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    It hasn't arrived yet. I've heard from two polkies that's it a improvement over the 1072.

    Make that three,I also made the Rotel to Jolida move.
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  • Timothy Smith
    Timothy Smith Posts: 764
    edited March 2011
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    It hasn't arrived yet. I've heard from two polkies that's it a improvement over the 1072.

    WOW, you guys are already modding/tweaking while the new toy is still in transit by UPS!
    Norh ACA-2B tube pre, Sumo Andromeda SS amp. Magneplanar MMG speakers, M&K MX1250 Subwoofer, Pro-Ject RM1.3 Genie TT with Sumiko Pearl MM cart., Keces DAC, Cambridge Audio Azur 640c CD player
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  • Obsession18
    Obsession18 Posts: 191
    edited March 2011
    I put some Psvane 12AX7 grade A tubes in my Jolida JD-100 last Friday and left the player on continuos play all weekend to burn them in.

    Monday night it was time to see what they could do, what a difference - tighter better controlled bass, improved detail in the highs, and alot blacker background, worth every penny!

    If you own a Jolida - GET RID of the stock tubes!
    2-Channel System
    Analog: VPI Traveler TT, Audio Technica 150MLX, Pro-Ject Tube Box DS
    CD Player: Jolida JD-100 Preamp: Cambridge 840E Amp: Odyssey Kismet Stereo
    Spkrs: Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature Systems
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  • starkiller
    starkiller Posts: 2,723
    edited March 2011
    I had some EI tubes in mine and it sounded pretty darn good:biggrin:
    Computer room Hegeman 1 SpeakersM&K VX-80 subKenwood DP-7010Cambridge Audio CXC Transport Rega DACPrimaLuna Prologue Four AmpAric Audio Tube PreampGarage Jennings Research SquareCustom tube preampCrown XLS-1000Denon DCD-1500II Modded MSB Link DAC
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,907
    edited March 2011
    Go with the Psvanes and get it over with.
    2 channel - Willsenton R8 tube integrated, Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE DAC, audio optimized NUC7i5, Windows 10 Pro/JRiver MC29/Fidelizer Plus 8.7 w/LPS and external SSD drive, PS Audio PerfectWave P3 regenerator, KEF R3 speakers, Rythmik F12SE subwoofer, Audioquest Diamond USB cable, Gabriel Gold IC's, Morrow Audio SP5 speaker cables. Computer - Windows 10/JRiver, Schiit Magni 3+/Modi 3+, Fostex PMO.4n monitors, Sennheiser HD600 headphones
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 937
    edited June 2011
    I recently installed a SC Magic PC with a pair of Shuguang Psvane's. I have about 24hrs of burn time on them and all I have to say is WOW.
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