Help with making looping generator sound

Ron-P
Ron-P Posts: 8,516
edited January 2011 in The Clubhouse
I'm looking for an inexpensive way to make a looping sound of an old style gas powered generator. First, I need the audio file and I'm not sure where to get that. iTunes, no luck.

Once I have the file I'd like to find a way to make it looping so it doesn't stop until I turn it off. This is for inside the generator shack in my backyard.

Any ideas on where I can get the sound and how I can make this work?
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,809
    edited January 2011
    Ron-P wrote: »
    I'm looking for an inexpensive way to make a looping sound of an old style gas powered generator. First, I need the audio file and I'm not sure where to get that. iTunes, no luck.

    Once I have the file I'd like to find a way to make it looping so it doesn't stop until I turn it off. This is for inside the generator shack in my backyard.

    Any ideas on where I can get the sound and how I can make this work?

    Not sure what you're trying to do but if you're trying to build a noise cancellation system then you should record that exact generator's sound because that will work best. You'll need a high quality microphone and recording system and you're playback loop will have to be out of phase so you can can get the harmonic cancellation your looking for.

    If you just want generator noise, why? Just start the generator.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited January 2011
    The generator is a facade, it's not real. I want the sound of a generator running to put inside the shack the generator is in to make it sound as if it is running.

    I want to put it inside this...
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,809
    edited January 2011
    Why?
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited January 2011
    Just for the effect, adding to the entire look, feel and sounds in the yard.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited January 2011
    you know there i a guy out there with a gas powered generator in his backyard saying, I would give anything to not hear that effing thing, and here you are looking to add it to yours lol
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  • Jstas
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    edited January 2011
    hoosier21 wrote: »
    you know there i a guy out there with a gas powered generator in his backyard saying, I would give anything to not hear that effing thing, and here you are looking to add it to yours lol

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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,809
    edited January 2011
    Ron-P wrote: »
    Just for the effect, adding to the entire look, feel and sounds in the yard.

    Just get the sound of a Ferrari F1 car or a Chevy or a Ford big block idling away and loop that through. Then when people ask, just tell them you got one of those "Precision Engines" to run you're pump so you could be "different" (like you aren't "different" already).

    http://www.conleyprecision.com/
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited January 2011
    Jstas wrote: »
    Why?
    Great question!
    Ron-P wrote: »
    Just for the effect, adding to the entire look, feel and sounds in the yard.
    Yeah, but why? :confused::wink::biggrin:
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited January 2011
    Why do model railroaders use fake sounds in their fake worlds?

    Personally, I'd look at getting the old generator running again :). When you want the sound, start the generator...

    You could always pull it from Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILLl93piNKo
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited January 2011
    nadams wrote: »
    Why do model railroaders use fake sounds in their fake worlds?

    Personally, I'd look at getting the old generator running again :). When you want the sound, start the generator...

    You could always pull it from Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILLl93piNKo

    Oh, that's awesome. I'm looking for something like that, just not as modern sounding, something a little more antique'ish. If any of you have been on an Indiana Jones Ride at the Disneyland parks, you'd know exactly what am looking for.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited January 2011
    F'n YouTube. I actually found the Indiana Jones generator sound from the ride. Now, how do I get this burned onto a CD? Anyone?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftW2YEsBCc4
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2011
    A loop from line out to line in(1/8" to 1/8" mini cable) on the sound card and use windows sound recorder. Have you thought of using a Harley sound bite?
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited January 2011
    Outstanding idea, I f$%king love it!!! You never cease to amaze me Ron.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited January 2011
    Thanks Rusty! :)

    ben62670 wrote: »
    A loop from line out to line in(1/8" to 1/8" mini cable) on the sound card and use windows sound recorder. Have you thought of using a Harley sound bite?
    What? You mean there's no way to just some how copy the file to iTunes and then burn it from there?
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2011
    I know there is a tool to grab the video with sound, and then you should be able to take the sound out of the video. Google is your friend on this one.
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited January 2011
    I know that ours is not to question why... :tongue:

    Are you going with a mono setup on this? Perhaps one of those outdoor speakers that looks like a rock? Actually, if you're putting it under the roof, you might not even need an outdoor speaker. This is reminding me of something you'd see at a theme park.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2011
    I think you should add a small smoke machine too.
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited January 2011
    ben62670 wrote: »
    I think you should add a small smoke machine too.

    BINGO! You should also make sure the smoke gives off an authentic aroma. Diesel?
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2011
    There ya go. A little Kerosene, drain oil, a big whick and it will smell like an old generator plus it will keep the skeeters away:wink:
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited January 2011
    I used to just go Line Out --> mini to RCA cable --> Cassette deck.

    Then record it back onto a computer using Soundtrack Pro (looping is available in that software).
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited January 2011
    Ron-P wrote: »
    Thanks Rusty! :)



    What? You mean there's no way to just some how copy the file to iTunes and then burn it from there?

    I use http://www.listentoyoutube.com/

    Just paste the video URL in the box, and it'll rip the sound out.

    If you want a true loop, though... it needs to be cut so that the repeat is seamless. The file can't end at a different pitch than it starts.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,809
    edited January 2011
    Ron-P wrote: »
    F'n YouTube. I actually found the Indiana Jones generator sound from the ride. Now, how do I get this burned onto a CD? Anyone?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftW2YEsBCc4

    They may be calling it a generator but that's more than likely an old air compressor.

    The diesel shop I worked at had two massive air compressors that were about 50 years old and they sounded exactly like that. Probably why you had such difficulty finding the right sound you were looking for.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited January 2011
    The whining sound come across as a scroll-type air compressor, but there's a few firings of a hit-n-miss thrown in the background. I agree... if that was a recording of a generator, it would have to be one with some bad bearings or something.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited January 2011
    Personally, I'd prefer the sound of a big old hit-n-miss in that shack - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVfDJpWjzo8

    Yeah, it's a huge engine, but it's got a nice steady firing rate.

    Or maybe something a bit bigger :)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIBjQILTac&feature=related
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited January 2011
    There's a couple good links there. But there's just something about the Disneyland sound that I like. Thanks for that link bro, I'll give it a shot.

    The generator in the Indiana Jones ride made it seem like it powered all the lighting through the line, thus the hit-n-miss made all the lights flicker and dim.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited January 2011
    WooHooo, that worked. Got the file into iTunes. THANK YOU!!!
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited January 2011
    that is so cool !

    suggest to have some sparks shoot out for extra effect... lol ...
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited January 2011
    Ron-P wrote: »
    There's a couple good links there. But there's just something about the Disneyland sound that I like. Thanks for that link bro, I'll give it a shot.

    The generator in the Indiana Jones ride made it seem like it powered all the lighting through the line, thus the hit-n-miss made all the lights flicker and dim.

    Got to love Hollywood... hit-n-miss engines used as light plants almost always utilised a battery to normalize voltages. The lights ran off the battery, and the engine kept the battery charged. They also were almost always DC generators, so your bulbs were actually rated for 24 or 36v DC. This is because they were used in rural farms where utilities weren't available at all. They were the ONLY source of power, not just backup sources.
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