Thinking of thinning the herd

Ron Temple
Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
edited January 2011 in Vintage Speakers
I'm going to thin the herd in some fashion and am deciding on whether to pass on some SDA 2Bs or LS90s + RT35s. I just can't support or justify both HT and 2 channel rigs. I've done it, torn it down, done it, torn it down. I just don't have to time to split between watching TV and listening to music.
I'll either go back to the SDA HT (leaning that way) giving up the LS//RT fronts and surrounds...or give up the SDAs (choke), the 2Bs first, then a set of mint 1Cs later.

2Bs are in slightly rough shape, cloth is fine, needs a bit of glue on a side, but one of the tops has a scrape and the finish is faded on both. RDO and mortite, no crossover mods. Have IC cable.

LS90s oak veneer 9/10
RT35s black oak veneer 8/10

I'm looking for a local sale, so if any local Polkie has an interest in either set, let me know. These will be good deals. If there is multiple interest I'll post in the For Sale section. Not going to ship, hence the interest check.

Combo rig:

Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
PB13Ultra RO
BW Silvers
Oppo BDP-83SE
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2011
    I know what you mean. I wish I had the room for a dedicated 2 channel setup but I don't.

    I am happy with the 1Cs doing double duty.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2011
    Hi Ron,

    When you set up/tear down is it in the same spot with the TV in the middle?

    The reason I ask is that I don't think you lose that much in HT mode when you use the SDA's for double-duty as 2-channel and HT speakers.

    I guess only you can decide if you like the best fidelity in 2-channel or HT mode.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • TNHNDYMAN
    TNHNDYMAN Posts: 2,145
    edited January 2011
    Hey Ron good to see you on here, I've appreciated your input on AVSforum and am finally getting my feet wet over here. Hate to see you paring down some of your collection but understand at times its necesary. Wish I was closer and would consider the 2B's but I don't know how much different they would be from the M10's I already have.
    2-ch System: Parasound P/LD 2000 pre, Parasound HCA-1000 amp, Parasound T/DQ Tuner, Phase Technology PC-100 Tower speakers, Technics SL-1600 Turntable, Denon 2910 SACD/CD player, Peachtree DAC iT and X1asynchorus USB converter, HSU VTF-3 subwoofer.

  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2011
    TNHNDYMAN wrote: »
    Hey Ron good to see you on here, I've appreciated your input on AVSforum and am finally getting my feet wet over here. Hate to see you paring down some of your collection but understand at times its necesary. Wish I was closer and would consider the 2B's but I don't know how much different they would be from the M10's I already have.

    M10's are wonderful, and properly modded 2B's perhaps an order of magnitude better.
    VTL ST50 w/mods / RCA6L6GC / TlfnknECC801S
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 w/mods
    TT Conrad Johnson Sonographe SG3 Oak / Sumiko LMT / Grado Woodbody Platinum / Sumiko PIB2 / The Clamp
    Musical Fidelity A1 CDPro/ Bada DD-22 Tube CDP / Conrad Johnson SD-22 CDP
    Tuners w/mods Kenwood KT5020 / Fisher KM60
    MF x-DAC V8, HAInfo NG27
    Herbies Ti-9 / Vibrapods / MIT Shotgun AC1 IEC's / MIT Shotgun 2 IC's / MIT Shotgun 2 Speaker Cables
    PS Audio Cryo / PowerPort Premium Outlets / Exact Power EP15A Conditioner
    Walnut SDA 2B TL /Oak SDA SRS II TL (Sonicaps/Mills/Cardas/Custom SDA ICs / Dynamat Extreme / Larry's Rings/ FSB-2 Spikes
    NAD SS rigs w/mods
    GIK panels
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited January 2011
    Damn you for living in CA....LS90's are top of my list of speakers I want to get my ears on for a bit......and now that I have the Carver I could properly give them some good power...

    but I want some 4ohm gear to pull more power out of the Carver so I guess its better for my pockets your so far away lol....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited January 2011
    Hi Ron,

    When you set up/tear down is it in the same spot with the TV in the middle?

    The reason I ask is that I don't think you lose that much in HT mode when you use the SDA's for double-duty as 2-channel and HT speakers.

    I guess only you can decide if you like the best fidelity in 2-channel or HT mode.
    I've been using the 90s/35s in the HT and 1Cs in the up again, down again 2 channel rig. No TV there, it's in a separate room. The SDAs, when in the HT, were wonderful. So are the 90s. It's just that the HT rig was not optimal and never will be for SDAs, not that it wasn't phenomemal.

    So, if I'm not going to use the SDAs, then I might as well get rid of them...or...vice versa. LS90s don't hit like SDAs, but are extremely clean and musical. I can live with either one, but as I said, I'm leaning toward passing on the 90s/35s to another Polkie and going back to my all SDA rig.

    Someone local should speak up and make my mind up for me.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • Earthy
    Earthy Posts: 488
    edited January 2011
    I would love to get a nice pair of LS90 to mate with my LS70's in my HT. Oh for the days of Star Trek where we could just beam items across the country.
    Polk Audio SDA SRS 2.3TL
    Parasound Halo A21
    Parasound Halo P3

    Home theater
    Polk LSiM 707, 706c, 703, 705
    Polk Blackstone TL3 for height
    SVS PB12-ISD Sub
    Denon AVR-X6400h
    Parasound Halo A51
    LG OLED65B7A
    Sony UBPX800
    Logitech Harmony Elite
    PC LSiM 703
    Spare LSIM 702 and 706c

    Home Theater #2
    Polk Audio LS70, CS350LS, LSF/X, S4
    Onkyo TX-NR808



  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2011
    Sell it all and buy something cooler.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited January 2011
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Sell it all and buy something cooler.


    There's alot of great double duty speakers out there.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited January 2011
    I just realized that I didn't title this correctly since I want a response from local Polkies...early alzheimers...

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited January 2011
    The LS90's are awesome speakers, hope someone local to you Ron will jump on this asap.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited January 2011
    Ron, thought of throwing this on AVSFORUM in the Polkies thread?
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited January 2011
    Ron, thought of throwing this on AVSFORUM in the Polkies thread?
    No, if I get rid of the 90s they should go to someone here. I can't find a flaw in them, so they need to go to one who will appreciate them. If I had boxes, I'd consider shipping, but again, they're mint or nearly so, there's no reason to risk damage. It's not a case where I need the money either.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • Earthy
    Earthy Posts: 488
    edited January 2011
    Sooner or later a nice pair of LS90's are going to show up around Oklahoma and I am going to snap them up. I've had my 70's since the early 90's and love them. I just want to fill out my HT with all LS series speakers.

    I'm sure someone around there will snap them up.
    Polk Audio SDA SRS 2.3TL
    Parasound Halo A21
    Parasound Halo P3

    Home theater
    Polk LSiM 707, 706c, 703, 705
    Polk Blackstone TL3 for height
    SVS PB12-ISD Sub
    Denon AVR-X6400h
    Parasound Halo A51
    LG OLED65B7A
    Sony UBPX800
    Logitech Harmony Elite
    PC LSiM 703
    Spare LSIM 702 and 706c

    Home Theater #2
    Polk Audio LS70, CS350LS, LSF/X, S4
    Onkyo TX-NR808



  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited January 2011
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    No, if I get rid of the 90s they should go to someone here. I can't find a flaw in them, so they need to go to one who will appreciate them. If I had boxes, I'd consider shipping, but again, they're mint or nearly so, there's no reason to risk damage. It's not a case where I need the money either.

    Totally understand, this forum is a bit more dedicated than the Polk thread on AVSFORUM, though you could always put a post count requirement or something on it....

    Wish I lived out either West or East Coast as I see deals on vintage polks that I am interested in often (also in CO), not much for the midwest......
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • kdarshan
    kdarshan Posts: 11
    edited January 2011
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited January 2011
    Man I'd so be interested but my internet is disconnected ATM. Hmmm
    Truck setup
    Alpine 9856
    Phoenix Gold RSD65CS

    For Sale
    Polk SR6500
    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


    heiney9 wrote: »
    Any clue how to use the internet? Found it in about 10 sec.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited January 2011
    kawizx9r wrote: »
    Man I'd so be interested but my internet is disconnected ATM. Hmmm
    You've got my number don'tcha?

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited January 2011
    Hey Ron,

    Good to see you around. I would love to grab those 90's but alas, I'm 2/3 the way across country.

    I can't speak highly enough of the 90's. They don't require "horsepower" to drive and if you put good stuff in front of them, they really sing.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited January 2011
    vc69 wrote: »
    Hey Ron,

    Good to see you around. I would love to grab those 90's but alas, I'm 2/3 the way across country.

    I can't speak highly enough of the 90's. They don't require "horsepower" to drive and if you put good stuff in front of them, they really sing.

    They are certainly very good. I prefer the RDO tweeters in the 1Cs to the trilams and they don't slam like SDAs, but they are very clean. My wife would like me to get rid of the SDAs and keep them. Just not ready to do that. Hell, she'd prefer I get rid of everything and go with Blackstones :biggrin:.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited January 2011
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    You've got my number don'tcha?

    Don't think I've ever had it, want mine? :eek:

    Got my internet back so we can trade PMs.
    Truck setup
    Alpine 9856
    Phoenix Gold RSD65CS

    For Sale
    Polk SR6500
    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


    heiney9 wrote: »
    Any clue how to use the internet? Found it in about 10 sec.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited January 2011
    PM sent

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited January 2011
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    PM sent

    REPLY sent.

    Would like to see pics of the 2B's. Curious as to what shape they're in exactly. I need something to work on to keep me busy when I'm not planning on the next mod for my car.
    Truck setup
    Alpine 9856
    Phoenix Gold RSD65CS

    For Sale
    Polk SR6500
    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


    heiney9 wrote: »
    Any clue how to use the internet? Found it in about 10 sec.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited January 2011
    I'll call you tomorrow. I saw your number come up on my cell, but we were just sitting down to dinner. I'll take some pics tomorrow and post. As I said, they are a little rough. The endcaps need work, but there is nothing wrong with the sound or fabric.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited January 2011
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    I'll call you tomorrow. I saw your number come up on my cell, but we were just sitting down to dinner. I'll take some pics tomorrow and post. As I said, they are a little rough. The endcaps need work, but there is nothing wrong with the sound or fabric.

    Sounds good :smile:

    I don't mind having to work on them if I do pick them up from you. Would be a fun project imo.
    Truck setup
    Alpine 9856
    Phoenix Gold RSD65CS

    For Sale
    Polk SR6500
    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


    heiney9 wrote: »
    Any clue how to use the internet? Found it in about 10 sec.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited January 2011
    LS 90s - RT35 pics

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    I've got 2B pics on another account that I can't access right now...probably want to keep the full SDA set anyway...though I'll think about it for Freddy.

    RT

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited January 2011
    No worries.

    Just figured with the condition of the 2B's they'd be cheaper, that and I think I'd want some SDA's again before anything else (except Monitor 7's/10's).

    Those LS90's look damn good that's for sure!
    Truck setup
    Alpine 9856
    Phoenix Gold RSD65CS

    For Sale
    Polk SR6500
    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


    heiney9 wrote: »
    Any clue how to use the internet? Found it in about 10 sec.
  • Ron Temple
    Ron Temple Posts: 3,212
    edited January 2011
    Ok, talked to Freddy who might want the 2Bs, but...I put them back in the rig as surrounds and am really leaning toward bring the 1Cs back in as fronts. That means the LS90s and 35s have to go. I'll post a FS thread shortly. Hopefully, someone local will want them...they are really nice and I got them for a steal. I won't ask for more...(hint)...$300 for both pairs.

    Combo rig:

    Onkyo NR1007 pre-pro, Carver TFM 45(fronts), Carver TFM 35 (surrounds)
    SDA 1C, CS400i, SDA 2B
    PB13Ultra RO
    BW Silvers
    Oppo BDP-83SE
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited January 2011
    Ron Temple wrote: »
    I won't ask for more...(hint)...$300 for both pairs.

    Jesus Ron, your making me cry all the way across the country lol....
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited January 2011
    LS-90's are the hammer of God...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
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