Denon versus Pioneer

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  • jkratzer
    jkratzer Posts: 148
    edited July 2003
    I like Denon.
    My 7.1 setup consists of:
    Denon 3803
    Panasonic DVD
    RTi70s front
    CSi40 front center
    RTi28s side surround
    FXi30s back surround
    PSW202 Subwoofer - Hey, it's my first sub!
    RCA 46" 4:3 RPTV
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  • botany
    botany Posts: 68
    edited July 2003
    Like I said I have the Flagship Receiver that Pioneer makes, that is until the 59-TXi comes out this fall. But, no S@@t the weight of the unit is 70 Lbs. Here is my list:

    Pioneer Elite VSX 49-TXi Receiver
    Pioneer Elite PRO-1000 Plasma TV
    Pioneer Elite DVR-7000 DVD Recorder
    Pioneer Elite DV-47Ai Progressive Scan DVD

    My speakers are:

    Polk RTi 70's Front speakers
    Polk CSi 40 Center Speaker
    Polk FXi 50's Side Rear back Speakers
    Polk FXi 30's Rear Back Speakers
    Polk PSW-650 Front Sub.
    Polk PSW-202 Rear Back Sub.

    I love the way I drive these speakers!

    Botany

    :p:p:p
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited July 2003
    Rush only has $500 though.
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  • Rush Limbaugh
    Rush Limbaugh Posts: 125
    edited July 2003
    I have a lot more than $500. I was saying that I want to get something good right away rather than get my feet wet with a cheap-o reciever.
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  • botany
    botany Posts: 68
    edited July 2003
    Hello Rush,
    If you want to get the best receiver on the market its the Pioneer Elite VSX-49TXi (IMHOP) The 59-TXi is due out in the fall but, will have a higher price. Pioneer will most likly let the people that have the 49-TXi upgrade to the 59-TXi like they did for the 49-Tx. people.

    If you what you can email me and I can tell you the price I paid and were.
    I bought the unit from an "Authorized Pioneer Dealer" when spending this much coin you need to keep this in mind.

    Botany
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  • PETERNG
    PETERNG Posts: 918
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    How does PE go from a measly 15 pound receiver to a gigantic 70 pounder? Must be bulletproof..........@_@

    Dude 70 pounds of receiver is all my amps stacked.......sheat

    Most parts are metal, not plastic...plus the bottom is solid brass to reduce interferences. Top of the line Elite still made in Japan, lfor lower models, most of them made in Malaysia now. I love the digital interface between the receiver and DVD player, one IEE 1394 connection handles all digital connection: DD, DTS, DVD-A, SACD...damm cool.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    hmmmmmmm........

    Flagships range from 2,000+ to 3-4,000+

    I spent 1120......wth are you talking about?
    Sid, with as much as you're into buying stuff on the cheap and used, you know that you can get a TOTL receiver for just a little bit more than what you spent. I got a B&K AVR307 for $1600, which is a GREAT price for a receiver that sold for that $3500 price that I wouldn't ever have paid for it new...All I have to do, if I feel like it, is to send it in to have the software and dac's upgraded and then basically I have a 507.......
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited July 2003
    What can i say........I love seeing this 2 foot or so stack of amps......
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by brettw22
    Sid, with as much as you're into buying stuff on the cheap and used, you know that you can get a TOTL receiver for just a little bit more than what you spent. I got a B&K AVR307 for $1600, which is a GREAT price for a receiver that sold for that $3500 price that I wouldn't ever have paid for it new...All I have to do, if I feel like it, is to send it in to have the software and dac's upgraded and then basically I have a 507.......

    Damn, I paid $1900 for mine. Did you ever set the notch filter?
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    I don't even know what that is wallstreet. How long ago did you get yours? I have tweeked it a bit, but to go through every single setting is almost mind boggling.......I still laugh when i make changes to the settings and then select SAVE and watch it back up the data........love that....
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  • wallstreet
    wallstreet Posts: 1,405
    edited July 2003
    It allows you to compensate for room equilazation. I kind of got scrambled during that part and left it to the default. I'm still trying to figure out how to adjust the freakin bass and treble. It is an amazing piece though. Soon as I find an extra 500 bones around, it's off to become a 507.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited July 2003
    I'm not in a big rush on the upgrade only because i don't watch VHS tapes, I don't have satellite or digital cable. I watch basic cable and DVD's. I don't think that all of the formats that you get with the upgrade would really benefit me with what I have, since the DD and DTS are already onboard. I do wish that there was a very simple bass and treble adjustment. I don't think that there is though.......
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  • Dr. Spec
    Dr. Spec Posts: 3,780
    edited July 2003
    This is like a mini parametric eq. You can pick a spot in the frequency response that has a peak, and isolate it by picking the beginning and end (i.e., the notch width), and then knock it down by measuring the size of the peak and applying the correct EQ against it. I've done it on a 507 before, not too hard, but don't use it unless you know where the peak is and how big.

    Doc
    "What we do in life echoes in eternity"

    Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
    Director - Technology and Customer Service
    SVS
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  • jdavy
    jdavy Posts: 380
    edited August 2003
    Rush,

    If you have $ then I say get the Polk LSI line and get a good high quality 4ohm reciever. You will find one at the dealer that sells the LSI line. Most of the recievers talked about here are 8ohm and are desined for the masses and not the audiofile.

    Good luck.

    James
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2003
    Most of the recievers talked about here are 8ohm and are desined for the masses and not the audiofile.

    Designed for the masses, that is an interesting statement.

    So 8 ohm owners are not in the audiophile category?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited August 2003
    Regardless of the 8ohm portion of his comment, he would be correct in saying that most receivers are made for the masses. I haven't ever heard that someone is only an Audiophile if he's running 4ohm speakers. The point still remains, a true audiophile is generally looking for their system to be made up of pieces that aren't necessarily stocked in 99% of the electronics stores around town IMO.
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  • botany
    botany Posts: 68
    edited August 2003
    When I was buying the Pioneer Elite VSX 49-TXi I called Pioneer and was told the the 49-TXi will drive 8ohm, and 4ohm speakers with no problems!

    8ohm or 4ohm what does that have to do with being audiophile?

    Botany
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited August 2003
    My post was saying that it didn't make a difference between 4 or 8 ohm specifically. More in agreement that the majority of the equipment out there isn't designed to fit into an audiophile's system.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited August 2003
    Hmmmmmm......REALLY?

    Wilson Audio X-1
    87,000 dollars

    8 ohm...:cool:
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited August 2003
    I hear ya Brett, I understand what you are saying.

    I consider myself an audiophile either way, regardless of equipment...I am an enthusiast interested in sound, just like any other $87,000 amplifier owner. No more, no less. You are too, you know what I mean?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited August 2003
    Dor,
    I have never seen a 87,000 dollar Amplifier...;)
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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