Interesting Quote

BlueFox
BlueFox Posts: 15,251
edited January 2011 in 2 Channel Audio
In the latest, February 2011, issue of the absolute sound. on page 72, in regard to the 2010 Rocky Mountain Audio Fest, Jonathan Valin says:

"The once ubiquitous CD player, however, seems to be going the way of the passenger pigeon."

At least it has not yet become a Dodo bird.

Yes, I know. Look at vinyl. CDs will be around for years. Yawn.

Discuss amongst yourselves.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited January 2011
    CD's for life here...
  • punk-roc
    punk-roc Posts: 1,150
    edited January 2011
    If i remember the context, his point was either you would go with Digital/Hard Drive based systems or stick with vinyl, but that digital systems will eventually make CDs/SACDs unnecessary since digital will catch up and be equivalent..

    Vinyl is probably here to stay though, I think Mr. Valin may be right with CDs though, just dont know the time frame.

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2011
    Sorry. Going digital lossless with a sweet tubed DAC here. Hard drives are so cheap now that you can easily back up all your files for safe storage. My Denon is going to be used for SACD mostly when I am done with my digital to audio setup. Win7 has a super sweet media center interface that when combined with a cheap remote makes a great server. Add the FLAC support hack and you are good to go. My DVDs are also going to be stored on the hard drive. No more stacks of gear. Just my DIY multifunction pre, a tuner, my tt, and amps. Pics soon on the DAC portion of my tube pre.
    Cheers
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited January 2011
    ben62670 wrote: »
    Sorry. Going digital lossless with a sweet tubed DAC here. Hard drives are so cheap now that you can easily back up all your files for safe storage. My Denon is going to be used for SACD mostly when I am done with my digital to audio setup. Win7 has a super sweet media center interface that when combined with a cheap remote makes a great server. Add the FLAC support hack and you are good to go. My DVDs are also going to be stored on the hard drive. No more stacks of gear. Just my DIY multifunction pre, a tuner, my tt, and amps. Pics soon on the DAC portion of my tube pre.
    Cheers
    Ben

    No you didn't:eek:
  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2011
    Just chew on it a bit. How much for a good CDP? Then mod it? The cables? DVD player? Cables? All the disks being around? You can get a huge external hard drive(two(one for back up)) dirt cheap. Take your whole media collection anywhere you go. Soon you will be able to easily plug into your vehicles A/V system. Go over to a friends house. It is just time to let go of the CDP. Lossless is just that. No degradation of the digital audio signal. No more compression than the original CD. No jitter or optical lenses. Time to move on.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited January 2011
    It's cd's for me. I like having the book, artwork and the music on a disc. I also enjoy collecting cd's. I still purchase a lot of cd's, new and used.
    I don't think cd's are going away anytime soon like the writer on AS mentioned.
  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited January 2011
    Ben, Have you heard of vortexbox? I'm currently ripping my cd collection to a homemade server using the vortexbox engine. My server cost me a whopping $450 (2-2 terabyte hd in raid 0). I highly recommend vortexbox to anyone using a squeezebox or sonos system.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2011
    Vinyl will always have its supporters media available. Contrary to the idea that vinyl is coming back and will take the audio community by storm is a crock. It sells magazines to have format wars and while some high quality stuff is being pressed it by no means its coming back as a solid media choice.

    CD's gone? Sorry, not for another 10-15 years at least. Yeah, seen the USB based media at my last couple audio functions, LOVE IT, but as far as it replacing a medium that has far outlasted tape and vinyl....no, not in my lifetime.

    For those of you on the fence and continually hating the digital age and thumb drive libraries of music?....wake up and find out the best way to transfer that media.

    I walk hi-res music to my thumb or media server all the time. You can poo poo it and say it sucks but eventually everyone will forget about you and be handing off music and demos hand over fist. You'll be wondering why no one talks to you and tries to help you while you run around in a circle humming and drooling.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2011
    no I WONT

    repeating the scream of the mantra beckons the mundane of the favorite flavor until the counter trend loses its appeal.

    RT1
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited January 2011
    C'mon Ted, you could toss all that gear and the guys will set you up with a squeezebox.
    LOL.....YEAH...that will be the day I see that in your sig.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,566
    edited January 2011
    Take your whole media collection anywhere you go.

    Why would I want to do that?
    No degradation of the digital audio signal.

    Yeah, that's what you think.
    No jitter

    Ummm....wrong again.
    No more compression than the original CD.

    Not following you on that one.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,650
    edited January 2011
    Lossless does not sound as good as the original material.

    Time to check your gear list to figure out why you cant hear a difference. ;) - I kid of course
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2011
    I will still have all my Cd's, but I will continue to rip them to my HD's.
    I travel from here to GA frequently so portability is very nice.
    The lossless formats just take away the unused bytes that are not used.
    As for jitter there are nice buffers that work much better than most CDPs that are affordable for the average user.
    The compression I speak of is the lack luster recording practices of the recording industry.
    The processing power of a PC is mind blowing. All CDP's have DA converters. Why not take advantage of the higher rate 24/96 digital music that is coming out instead of the 30 year old CD technology? I still will tube my SACD player for certain disks, but Cd's are an outdated technology that is limited in data bandwidth. I am not against older shown technology like simply clean tube design, but again the CDP's are not anything that can not be easily topped by the computing power of even the most humble PC's. Granted too many people use the pure data and manipulate it with bad media players with software that kills the sound, but I for one have experimented with multiple players and have found that the signal can easily be matched via the PC.
    Enjoy
    Ben
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