Reciever keeps giving me the red " Peak" light

logo896
logo896 Posts: 322
edited January 2011 in 2 Channel Audio
Ok so i just got a new toy off the audiogon. Its a Pioneer SACD player here are its stats.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Audio-Components/Hi-Fi+Audio/PD-D6-J

However whenever i turn it up to much my Marantz sr4001 keeps giving me the peak button unless i hit the att button then its fine.

http://us.marantz.com/Products/1867.asp


Im using an external amp to push my lsi 9's so i dont know why it would be the amp and i read in some forums that it could be the processor thats actual warning of potentially clipping.
If you look on the specs for each piece of equipment they appear to have compatible processors and my receiver says it plays hdcd's. Im new to this level of audio and would love to know if anyone has any idea how to fix that.Finally it only does this on my cd player and nothing else like my ps3 at even louder levels. Ofcourse that is a digital signal and not an anolog dont know if that matters. Do i need to buy a new receiver or pre amp?


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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2011
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    logo896 wrote: »
    Ok so i just got a new toy off the audiogon. Its a Pioneer SACD player here are its stats.

    http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Audio-Components/Hi-Fi+Audio/PD-D6-J

    However whenever i turn it up to much my Marantz sr4001 keeps giving me the peak button unless i hit the att button then its fine.

    http://us.marantz.com/Products/1867.asp


    Im using an external amp to push my lsi 9's so i dont know why it would be the amp and i read in some forums that it could be the processor thats actual warning of potentially clipping.
    If you look on the specs for each piece of equipment they appear to have compatible processors and my receiver says it plays hdcd's. Im new to this level of audio and would love to know if anyone has any idea how to fix that.Finally it only does this on my cd player and nothing else like my ps3 at even louder levels. Ofcourse that is a digital signal and not an anolog dont know if that matters. Do i need to buy a new receiver or pre amp?


    Logan


    When that happens, does it start clipping or just shine a red light on the AVR? I would turn it up even more and force it to clip. It sounds like a warning or flag. I'm sure it's covered in the user manual.
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  • logo896
    logo896 Posts: 322
    edited January 2011
    In the manual it does say that " if the selceted anolog is greater than the capable level of the processor the peak light will illuminate."
    It doesnt clip at all just show s the red light on the AVR it appears to sound fine though. So really what do i need to look for when buying an AVR to handle this player?
  • quadzilla
    quadzilla Posts: 1,543
    edited January 2011
    What do you mean by "when I turn it up too much"? What are you turning up? The pre, or the player? If the player, why aren't you using fixed level output? And which peak is lighting? The input? If so, you may need to set the input level on the multi-channel analog inputs. Or if you're using the 2 channel CD input (or whatever) then you may just need to use the ATT function to lower the input sensitivity.
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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited January 2011
    Just means the analog out is sending signal higher than the receiver can handle. Too many volts. The ATT feature is there for that very reason.
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  • logo896
    logo896 Posts: 322
    edited January 2011
    quadzilla wrote: »
    What do you mean by "when I turn it up too much"? What are you turning up? The pre, or the player? If the player, why aren't you using fixed level output? And which peak is lighting? The input? If so, you may need to set the input level on the multi-channel analog inputs. Or if you're using the 2 channel CD input (or whatever) then you may just need to use the ATT function to lower the input sensitivity.


    Id say over maybe negative 40 or whenever there is more bass. Im turning up the AVR, so the peak shows up on there even though my amp is external. I had it just connected to my cd/r input. on my AVR. If i put it on the 7.1 then i dont get a peak at all. Although its only a two channel set up.

    So if i buy a new pre amp will i not have to use the att or is there going to be to many volts regardless of what i put the player on.
  • quadzilla
    quadzilla Posts: 1,543
    edited January 2011
    If it only happens when you turn up the AVR, then it shouldn't be the input overloading. That gets a constant level signal, no matter what the output is at. So that must be what's overloading - the output stage. At least, that's how all my gear has ever worked.

    You have a pure direct option. If you switch it into pure direct, does the overload light still come on?
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited January 2011
    I was having the same problem with my cd changer a while back on my marantz 7002... my option was to just stop using the changer and using the ps3 instead... much better option for me.
  • logo896
    logo896 Posts: 322
    edited January 2011
    quadzilla wrote: »
    If it only happens when you turn up the AVR, then it shouldn't be the input overloading. That gets a constant level signal, no matter what the output is at. So that must be what's overloading - the output stage. At least, that's how all my gear has ever worked.

    You have a pure direct option. If you switch it into pure direct, does the overload light still come on?


    No it only happens if i have it on one of the normal red and white inputs, anything like pure direct or if i run it on the optical doesnt have that problem. I guess my final question would be is it better to run it with the att, pure audio or the digital coaxial? Thanks for the input so far. BTW i do have a ps3 on it as well but i dont like loading that all up or using the tv to navigate.
  • quadzilla
    quadzilla Posts: 1,543
    edited January 2011
    logo896 wrote: »
    No it only happens if i have it on one of the normal red and white inputs, anything like pure direct or if i run it on the optical doesnt have that problem. I guess my final question would be is it better to run it with the att, pure audio or the digital coaxial? Thanks for the input so far. BTW i do have a ps3 on it as well but i dont like loading that all up or using the tv to navigate.

    OK, guess it's called pure audio on your system. Mine call it either pure direct or analog direct, but it's where all processing is bypassed an the AVR just acts like a volume knob. Does it happen if you do that?
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  • logo896
    logo896 Posts: 322
    edited January 2011
    quadzilla wrote: »
    OK, guess it's called pure audio on your system. Mine call it either pure direct or analog direct, but it's where all processing is bypassed an the AVR just acts like a volume knob. Does it happen if you do that?

    No it doesn't do it at all when you do it that way. You push the 7.1 input and it plays just fine. Sounds like that may be the way to go.