Onkyo back with giant amp w/ power meters & $1.5K CD player

Danny Tse
Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
edited April 2011 in 2 Channel Audio
From TWICE....
Las Vegas - Onkyo is going retro, expanding its selection of stereo component separates with three models whose styling is reminiscent of the brand's 1980s models but whose technology is from the 21st Century.

The three components are the $1,699-suggested P-3000R pre-amplifier, $2,499 M-5000R power amplifier, and $1,499 C-7000R CD player. All will be available this month through select dealers.

All of the separates feature new Dynamic Intermodulation Distortion Reduction Circuitry (DIDRC) to prevent high-frequency interference above 100kHz, which is beyond the range of human hearing but which are susceptible to clock pulses and other types of distortion that can generate "beat interference," which "affects the character or atmosphere of the original sound," the company said. DIDRC is incorporated into the amplification circuitry of the three hi-fi components.

To further reduce interference, the products feature separate digital and analog circuits.

Other features include such audiophile-grade parts as massive toroidal transformers. A new circuit board construction and separate chassis panels are designed to eliminate unwanted vibrations.

The P-3000R pre-amp accepts analog sources as well as digital sources via AES/EBU digital connectors and a USB input. A high-quality 32-bit Burr-Brown DAC is used for each channel and the component can be bi-amped.

The M-5000R amp offers large front-panel analog power and high-current capabilities. AWRAT amplification design consists of DIDRC technology along with a low NFB design, closed ground-loop circuits, and high instantaneous-current capability.

It's rated at 2x80 watts into 8 ohms using FTC standards, but it can also drive demanding complex-impedance loudspeakers to high levels with a dynamic power rating of more than 450 watts into 1 ohm, the company said. Power efficiency is enhanced via a three-stage inverted Darlington circuitry and a new quad push-pull amplification design that uses two extra transistors for each channel. An XLR input opens makes it possible to double power output via a BTL (bridged transless) set-up.

The C-7000R CD player uses a thermally regulated clock with crystal oscillator to reduce potential interference. Also to reduce potential interference, the player can be operated in analog-only or digital-only mode, with analog and digital circuitry physically separated.

Check them out here

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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,082
    edited January 2011
    That is what I'm talking about!!! Thanks for the info.
  • Earthy
    Earthy Posts: 488
    edited January 2011
    Looks nice. Love those big analog meters.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2011
    WOW.

    That is some BEAUTIFUL gear. :smile:
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited January 2011
    I think I have a woodie.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited January 2011
    Very nice.Looks very similar to my fave vintage Technics SEA3 / 5
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited January 2011
    ahhh, a newer version of my M504....well kinda...:biggrin:
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited January 2011
    halo71 wrote: »
    ahhh, a newer version of my M504....well kinda...:biggrin:

    I'm with you there. As the owner of an Integra P-304 pre-amp. I'm digging the RETRO look of the power amp!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited January 2011
    cnh wrote: »
    I'm with you there. As the owner of an Integra P-304 pre-amp. I'm digging the RETRO look of the power amp!

    cnh

    I think you should send that 304 my way! :biggrin:
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited January 2011
    Very nice looking gear!
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2011
    I'm a little surprised at the amp specs, but at least it seems they made damn sure it would handle lower ohm loads...
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited January 2011
    So, Ben, going to change your whole "I'll never buy a 2K amp ever" statement??? :tongue:

    nice look, interesting on the specs on the amp as well but 1 ohm stable is good good good. I didn't see what the peak amps are for it though.
  • vmaxer
    vmaxer Posts: 5,117
    edited January 2011
    Well, I guess the car industry has benefited from new technology and old styles, why can't audio?? I kinda like the look too!!
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  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited January 2011
    cnh wrote: »
    I'm with you there. As the owner of an Integra P-304 pre-amp. I'm digging the RETRO look of the power amp!

    cnh

    I remember that preamp :)

    That does look like VERY cool gear. I love the retro look :)

    James
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited January 2011
    Add tubes and it will be Great.

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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited January 2011
    Pycroft wrote: »
    I remember that preamp :)

    That does look like VERY cool gear. I love the retro look :)

    James

    You ought to know, James. It's a solid performer. Can't wait to invest in a TT for it as I haven't heard that section of the pre yet.

    DisneyJ's also got a point above!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,289
    edited January 2011
    I love this time of year...after the Holidays of taking care of the family, and the hustle and bustle then its gear time CES...then there ISC West for work...but I like it.
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    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited January 2011
    Love the meters on amps.

    Maybe my Soundcraftsmen will come back in style. (If it ever went out of style.)

    From a time when amps looked like amps:
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2011
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    So, Ben, going to change your whole "I'll never buy a 2K amp ever" statement??? :tongue:

    nice look, interesting on the specs on the amp as well but 1 ohm stable is good good good. I didn't see what the peak amps are for it though.

    Oh, i'll buy a $2k amp, i just won't pay that for it. I'll wait this one out and see what happens. I've got a major hard-on for that thing. :tongue:
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited January 2011
    halo71 wrote: »
    ahhh, a newer version of my M504....well kinda...:biggrin:


    Except the 504 was 2x the power.
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2011
    Lasareath wrote: »
    2K for 2x80 ?

    Take a gander at the rest of the information on the amp. It's a bit more interesting than that.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited January 2011
    erniejade wrote: »
    Except the 504 was 2x the power.

    True, but I never associated higher power to higher quality. Although the 504 was around $900 new if I remember right. hummmm....lol
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,777
    edited January 2011
    halo71 wrote: »
    True, but I never associated higher power to higher quality. Although the 504 was around $900 new if I remember right. hummmm....lol

    I think it was closer to $650. I remember choosing between the Onkyo, an Adcom 555, and a Denon POA-2400 back in '88 or '89. I remember the Adcom and Denon were both more expensive at $750 each, of course they had a little more power as well.
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited January 2011
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    I think it was closer to $650.

    Damn crooks at Custom Audio. :tongue:

    Wonder if they are still around in Little Rock.....
    --Gary--
    Onkyo Integra M504, Bottlehead Foreplay III, Denon SACD, Thiel CS2.3, NHT VT-2, VT-3 and Evolution T6, Infinity RSIIIa, SDA1C and a few dozen other speakers around the house I change in and out.
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited January 2011
    I had a integra amp. It was rated at 100 per, I think it was 1030 or 5030 i can't remember the model number now. IT was a darn good sounding amp and held it's own against many over the years. I sold it last year but it did serve me well for at least 10 years.
    Klipsch The Nines, Audioquest Thunderbird Interconnect, Innuos Zen MK3 W4S recovery, Revolution Audio Labs USB & Ethernet, Border Patrol SE-I, Audioquest Niagara 5000 & Thunder, Cullen Crossover II PC's.
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited January 2011
    I like them!! That amp's awesome looking...gotta dig the big analog meters!
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited January 2011
    Lasareath wrote: »
    I took a gander, Nothing too impressive. So what that it goes down to 1ohm, I'm sure I can find something much better for 2K

    Then don't buy it? :confused: In your personal experience, what didn't you like about the amp?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

    Living Room: B&K Reference 5 S2 / Parasound HCA-1000A / Emotiva XDA-2 / Pioneer BDP-51FD / Paradigm 11se MKiii

    Desk: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / ISK HD9999

    Office: Schiit Magni 2 Uber / Schiit Modi 2 Uber / Dynaco SCA-80Q / Paradigm Legend V.3

    HT: Denon AVR-X3400H / Sony UBP-X700 / RT16 / CS350LS / RT7 / SVS PB1000
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited January 2011
    Lasareath wrote: »
    2K for 2x80 ?


    There are far more expensive amps than that, with far less wattage.
    The nirvana inducer-
    APC H10 Power Conditioner
    Marantz UD5005 universal player
    Parasound Halo P5 preamp
    Parasound HCA-1200II power amp
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  • TORI3
    TORI3 Posts: 234
    edited January 2011
    Love the retro look with meters, instead of just a black face panel.
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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited January 2011
    FTGV wrote: »
    Very nice.Looks very similar to my fave vintage Technics SEA3 / 5

    I was thinking the same thing.

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  • Gulfstrings
    Gulfstrings Posts: 313
    edited January 2011
    Can't read the print on the amp's meter covers, but if it says "VU" I'm in retro heaven - regardless of what's behind the glass.
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