Carver c-1 preamp (HOLOGRAPHY) in system w/MAGGIES

dee1949

.....anybody try this setup, before I tear my system apart to add the C-1???

...have the Magnepan MG-1's out in the room....at least 3 ft away from walls.

....how does the HOLOGRAPHY sound with bipolar speakers?

dee1949

....anybody with Maggies definitely should have a copy of "Jazz at the Pawn Shop". Just want to know if it is worth the effort to improve on the experience of this CD?? Will the "H-effect" have a unique quality (positive)?

nooshinjohn

I have SH on my Sunfire pre and never use it with my SDA's, but I have run it when I had the LSi's up front and found that I liked the effect for certain types of music. I would say give it a try. The C1 is a pre worthy of your time whether or not you decide to use SH.

dorokusai

I found it to be a useless component on my Magnepan.

Fongolio

dorokusai wrote: »

I found it to be a useless component on my Magnepan.

Now THAT post is helpful.....NOT!

Anyway, I did a re-cap and op-amp upgrade on my C-1 last year that really brought an already good sounding component into the great sounding category. I had to use adapters on the 14 pin quads that allowed two National Semiconductor LM4562 duals to work but man was it worth the time and money. I strongly recommend this mod. I haven't heard a C-1 with Magnepans but anything I've put the C-1 with has sounded sweet. It sounds awesome with the SDA's I have but not with sonic holography engaged. On other speakers though, I very much like the SH effect. The C-1 has one of the best SH circuits as well. I say go for it. Your ears will tell you.

Kelvin

dorokusai

He already owns it and I never said NOT to do it Johnny Bravo. You liked it, I didn't....and the world keeps turning.

nooshinjohn

dorokusai wrote: »

I found it to be a useless component on my Magnepan.

Your distain for all things Carver is showing again Doro...:rolleyes:

dorokusai

That may be true but I at least try and put forth the effort to learn and I've owned dozens of Carver pieces. That way I can rag on it or praise it in whatever manner I see fit. Did you care to know what I thought of it aside from Magnepan? Nope. I have to move on to other issues, happy listening!

George Grand

Only 6/10 for hostility. Great form though.

dkg999

GG - I'm gonna go 7/10 for classic Club Polk honesty and form! We need to get back to the basics that make this place rock!

ViperZ

I used C-1 with my rebuilt MGII Maggies for almost two years before I went with tubes. To be honest, holography never fully matched with Maggies sound for me, so I always had it off. Maggies are finicky to setup and find a good place for to begin with. Holography added another dimensions, which made the whole setup a big headache. On the other side, C-1 is an excellent preamplifier, so why not try your Maggies with C-1 and tell us what you think?

Oh yeah, Maggies are not 'bipolar', they are 'planar'. http://stereos.about.com/od/glossaryoftermsb/g/bipolar.htm

zombie boy 2000

Did I miss the part where Doro actually has used a C-1 with Maggies? You know... the actual bit o' experience that qualifies him to respond to the OP?

Or does the (non)action of specifically (not)hearing them with Maggies better qualify others?

TroyD

While I revere Carver speakers, love Carver amps....and the C19 tube preamp is, IMO, a giant killer, I have little love for the C-1 preamp. It's ok, not great....YMMV.

In regards to the Maggies, you are going to have to reposition them....if you don't set up your speakers and listening position in the prescribed fashion...the SH doesn't work nearly as well.

I'm not saying don't do it....as you have the piece, why not? I just think the soundstage that the Maggies throw on thier own is damn impressive so I don't think there is much to be gained.

YMMV.

BDT

shack

zombie boy 2000 wrote:

Did I miss the part where Doro actually has used a C-1 with Maggies? You know... the actual bit o' experience that qualifies him to respond to the OP?

Or does the (non)action of specifically (not)hearing them with Maggies better qualify others?

dorokusai wrote:

I found it to be a useless component on my Magnepan.

I dunno...I took the above statement to mean he had tried the combination.

zombie boy 2000

I know. I was responding to a previous post that was trying to call him out, but explicitly mentioned having never tried the combo themselves.

shack

zombie boy 2000 wrote:

I know. I was responding to a previous post that was trying to call him out, but explicitly mentioned having never tried the combo themselves.

Oh...ok. Your post was confusing...I ignored the sarcasm part...

dee1949

...Thanks for reply's. Will put the experiment on hold til I need to tear my system apart for a different reason. I am using a B&K pro10mc preamp, which I am happy with for now.

Fongolio

zombie boy 2000 wrote: »

I know. I was responding to a previous post that was trying to call him out, but explicitly mentioned having never tried the combo themselves.

I think he means me. And I responded to Doro's statement of "useless" only because without any other observations such as why he found it "useless" or with what other components were in the chain, the statement on it's own is exactly what he calls the combination he's offering insight on........useless.

shack

Fongolio wrote: »

I think he means me. And I responded to Doro's statement of "useless" only because without any other observations such as why he found it "useless" or with what other components were in the chain, the statement on it's own is exactly what he calls the combination he's offering insight on........useless.

The OP only asked how it sounded. The answer was succinct and to the point.