SDA CRS+ Impressions

dcmartinpc
dcmartinpc Posts: 844
edited December 2010 in Vintage Speakers
So.... I just got my pair of CRS+ today... I also have a pair of modded 1C's and within the next couple of days a pair of SRS 2's...


OK... The CRS+ soundstage is as big as my house!!!! OMG! They can't touch the 1C's as far as low end response, and I think the 1C's are smoother, but that is most likely due to their full upgrade... I am even more excited for my SRS 2's now!!! The 1C's will be moved to the basement for 2 channel amidst the home theater :D The SRS 2's will be where the 1C's are now, and I think the CRS+'s will go to the bedroom...

I will say the bass response from the CRS+'s was surprising... I did not expect what they did...

Don
Living Room: Adcom GFP-750 (Upgraded), Squeezebox Touch, Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-79AVi, Parasound HCA-3500 (Upgraded), SDA SRS 2 P/B (Gimpod, Sonicaps, & Mills)

Theater: Denon 4311ci, Oppo BDP-93, Parasound HCA-2205+HCA-2200II, Polk LSi9, LSiC, LSiFX, LSi7, Custom 18" TC Sounds sub with 2 18" PR, Sharp XV-Z12000, Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M (isf Enabled)

Bedroom: HK AVR354, Pioneer DV-47a, Parasound HCA-1500a, Polk LSi9
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited December 2010
    Upgrade them and seal them properly and they'll sound even better. You're becoming an sda hoarder.:smile:
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2010
    Lasareath wrote: »
    The CRS+'s are wider than the 1C's, I think that's why their soundstage sounds wider.
    That has nothing to do with it.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2010
    Face wrote: »
    That has nothing to do with it.

    Exactly.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited December 2010
    2B'S and 1C's have the mid woofers close together, and IIRC all the other SDA's are further apart with the tweeters in between the mid woofers.

    I think the SRS nomenclature may have something to go along with the mid woofers being further apart also, but I could be wrong.

    YMMV

    Scott
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited December 2010
    What does reference mean.........something like Emo's world class :tongue::biggrin:

    Rhetorical so no need to answer.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited December 2010
    Lasareath wrote: »
    I beg to differ.

    If you measure the distance between the SDA driver and the Stereo driver in my speakers you'll see that they are closer to the same distance in the crs+'s. The 1C's are closer together.

    That distance is there to mimic the distance between your ears. The 1C's probablly sound better for people with skinny heads or less distance between their ears
    Ok, now I know you're joking.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited December 2010
    Lasareath wrote: »
    The 1C's probablly sound better for people with skinny heads or less distance between their ears
    With or without a hat?:biggrin:

    Relative horizontal separation between the stereo and dimensional drivers will have an influence on the SDA effect but baffle width in and of itself will not make the soundstage sound wider.
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  • stubby
    stubby Posts: 723
    edited December 2010
    FTGV wrote: »
    With or without a hat?:biggrin:

    Relative horizontal separation between the stereo and dimensional drivers will have an influence on the SDA effect but baffle width in and of itself will not make the soundstage sound wider.

    I agree, and I think this is what Lasareath was aluding to in his first post.

    stubby
    SRS 3.1TL
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited December 2010
    One of the best SDA loudspeakers on the used market. Everyone strokes egos for the big models, for some unknown reason...and there are so many cooler versions to hop on.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited December 2010
    Are you guys saying I have a fat head?! :tongue:


    Anyways... I have been sitting and listening to these CRS+ today and gotta tell you, I really like them. They are a VERY capable speaker, and I think I am going to upgrade and TL them, which should make them even better.

    How do I go about sealing these things properly? The rear plugs have been removed and sealed with sealant... Anything else I need to do... The stupid search function is one step above useless!


    Don
    Living Room: Adcom GFP-750 (Upgraded), Squeezebox Touch, Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-79AVi, Parasound HCA-3500 (Upgraded), SDA SRS 2 P/B (Gimpod, Sonicaps, & Mills)

    Theater: Denon 4311ci, Oppo BDP-93, Parasound HCA-2205+HCA-2200II, Polk LSi9, LSiC, LSiFX, LSi7, Custom 18" TC Sounds sub with 2 18" PR, Sharp XV-Z12000, Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M (isf Enabled)

    Bedroom: HK AVR354, Pioneer DV-47a, Parasound HCA-1500a, Polk LSi9
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  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited December 2010
    I thought he stopped making them??? If I can snatch up a set, I would be all over them. My 1C's have them, and the SRS 2's I will be getting are coming with them, I just need to install them...

    Don
    Living Room: Adcom GFP-750 (Upgraded), Squeezebox Touch, Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-79AVi, Parasound HCA-3500 (Upgraded), SDA SRS 2 P/B (Gimpod, Sonicaps, & Mills)

    Theater: Denon 4311ci, Oppo BDP-93, Parasound HCA-2205+HCA-2200II, Polk LSi9, LSiC, LSiFX, LSi7, Custom 18" TC Sounds sub with 2 18" PR, Sharp XV-Z12000, Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M (isf Enabled)

    Bedroom: HK AVR354, Pioneer DV-47a, Parasound HCA-1500a, Polk LSi9
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  • Hamatym
    Hamatym Posts: 269
    edited December 2010
    Hey Don, you will have (8) 6.5" driver rings along with (4) tweeter rings and all associated hardware to use as you may;) I also just remembered to add the templates in there to help out!

    Buddy, keep in mind- Once you go SRS you never go back...ha ha (but really not joking)
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