Carpet Spikes

saguppy
saguppy Posts: 44
edited July 2003 in Speakers
I'm looking for 4 spkr. sets worth of carpet spikes for my RT800i and RT600i speakers. Does anyone have some they dont need?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2003
    Sag - If you don't find any, check out these:

    www.oregondv.com

    I have used their products, and they are really nice.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited July 2003
    Sag, what happened to the ones your speaks came with?
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • saguppy
    saguppy Posts: 44
    edited July 2003
    I bought my speakers used. Because I'm cheap like that.
  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited July 2003
    They're not hiding under the rubber feet?

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
    AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
    Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
    TV Source: DirecTV Genie
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,773
    edited July 2003
    Call or email Polk customer service. New ones will probably be cheap. I'd be afraid that I'd get the wrong threads or something if I went non OEM
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited July 2003
    Originally posted by Loud & Clear
    They're not hiding under the rubber feet?

    We're on the same page brotha.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • saguppy
    saguppy Posts: 44
    edited July 2003
    I think I might order some spikes from polk... Only $3.20 for a set of 4.
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited July 2003
    Sag, did someone remove them from your speakers? Are the rubber feet there?
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • saguppy
    saguppy Posts: 44
    edited July 2003
    No feet at all:(
  • JohnnyCanEHdian
    JohnnyCanEHdian Posts: 15
    edited July 2003
    What's the deal with these carpet spikes anyway? Do they improve sound or something?? I just bouth a pair of R50's for my fronts and they came with the spike, but have the little feet installed.

    I understand that the spikes will probably hold your speakers in place better, but what's the real benefit?
    Johnny CanEHdian

    It's all fun and games until someone Polks out an ear.
  • Heptarchone
    Heptarchone Posts: 5
    edited July 2003
    Spiking a speaker does two things:

    Holds the speaker stationary. This is done by the spike penetrating the carpet and then sticking into the sub floor… slightly. This holds the speaker rigidly in place. You can get a similar effect using rubber feet, but it's not as rigid and can flex. By holding a speaker stationary you stop the speaker from using its energy to move the enclosure. Sound ridicules? If you place a micrometer against the side of an enclosure you can measure the back and forth movement. It is very slight and the largest swing I have measured is .0006" at the base. When you consider the amount of energy (HP) required to move this 45 lb speaker .0006" it is significant. This measurement was taken from a speaker without feet and on carpet. This is robbing the speaker of sound potential.

    Reduces base to floor contact vibration. Spiking a speaker also reduces the contact surface of the speaker with the floor. Thus reducing the amount of vibration that can pass into the floor. Once the energy from a speaker is transferred into the floor it becomes non-directional. This means is will go wherever it wants, usually into another room or apartment where everyone can enjoy the little thumps thumps. These vibrations also have a negative impact on surrounding components.


    There is a reason the high end speaker manufactures use speaker spikes; they add value to the speaker’s performance. The tones will be more focused and tighter and you will have more useable power. Polk offers a very good price to their customers on spikes and in my opinion the cost to upgrade is very little risk for the potential benefits.
  • Heptarchone
    Heptarchone Posts: 5
    edited July 2003
    Spiking a speaker does two things:

    Holds the speaker stationary. This is done by the spike penetrating the carpet and then sticking into the sub floor… slightly. This holds the speaker rigidly in place. You can get a similar effect using rubber feet, but it's not as rigid and can flex. By holding a speaker stationary you stop the speaker from using its energy to move the enclosure. Sound ridicules? If you place a micrometer against the side of an enclosure you can measure the back and forth movement. It is very slight and the largest swing I have measured is .0006" at the base. When you consider the amount of energy (HP) required to move this 45 lb speaker .0006" it is significant. This measurement was taken from a speaker without feet and on carpet. This is robbing the speaker of sound potential.

    Reduces base to floor contact vibration. Spiking a speaker also reduces the contact surface of the speaker with the floor. Thus reducing the amount of vibration that can pass into the floor. Once the energy from a speaker is transferred into the floor it becomes non-directional. This means is will go wherever it wants, usually into another room or apartment where everyone can enjoy the little thumps thumps. These vibrations also have a negative impact on surrounding components.


    There is a reason the high end speaker manufactures use speaker spikes; they add value to the speaker’s performance. The tones will be more focused and tighter and you will have more useable power. Polk offers a very good price to their customers on spikes and in my opinion the cost to upgrade is very little risk for the potential benefits.
  • JohnnyCanEHdian
    JohnnyCanEHdian Posts: 15
    edited July 2003
    You know that actually makes sense. :) Although i can't see this having a huge impact on the sound, I can see how it could/would imporve it slightly.

    Thanks for the answer. I might just have to plug those spikes in afterall.

    p.s. Watch out for that Back button ;)
    Johnny CanEHdian

    It's all fun and games until someone Polks out an ear.
  • Heptarchone
    Heptarchone Posts: 5
    edited July 2003
    Wow. I doubled my productivity with one click. I was wondering why it seemed to lock up :)

    Thx
  • jkratzer
    jkratzer Posts: 148
    edited July 2003
    Spikes can destroy your carpet if you forget it is spiked and try to move the speaker. :eek: I use the rubber feet on my RTi70's instead.
    My 7.1 setup consists of:
    Denon 3803
    Panasonic DVD
    RTi70s front
    CSi40 front center
    RTi28s side surround
    FXi30s back surround
    PSW202 Subwoofer - Hey, it's my first sub!
    RCA 46" 4:3 RPTV
  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited July 2003
    I am thinking about spiking my R40's as well. Can anyone attest to any improvement in quality, rather than just say would should be expected? Any real-life experience would be appreciated.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited July 2003
    I can only comment sub wise, and that is earlier in the thread. Yes, I noticed an improvement with spikes, for my setup.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.