Home theater pre-amp......

shawn474
shawn474 Posts: 3,047
edited January 2011 in Wanted (WTB) Classifieds
You can look at my signature and see what I have. I am looking to replace my outlaw 950 with a newer, but not necessarily HDMI capable pre. Just looking to change things up a bit is all. Getting bored and want to rotate in some new gear. Looking for a B&K Ref 50, outlaw 990,. or any other comparale pre's. Let me know what you got. I am in the DC/MD/VA area and am looking to spend $400 or less if possible.

Take Care,
Shawn
Shawn
AVR: Marantz SR-5011
Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
Front: Polk LsiM703
Rear: LSI fx
Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
DVD Player: Sony PS4
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  • sm88
    sm88 Posts: 353
    edited December 2010
    I had an Outlaw 950 and while I liked it for the dirt cheap price and the features, when I upgraded even to an old 90's Parasound AVP I noticed a great improvement in sound quality. Got even better when I went to an Anthem AVM20, and now I have an AVM30, which is for sale but is beyond your range by a bit. I can wholeheartedly recommend Anthem products, having owned a number of their amplifiers and processors.

    The Outlaw 950 you should be able to sell for $160-200, is that factored into your budget? If you could come up with $650 i'd let you steal my AVM30. Otherwise, I have heard an earlier B&K (Ref 20) and did enjoy it, so you're on the right track when it comes to cheaper HT processors. Good luck!
    Current System:
    Paradigm Signature S2 v2
    Conrad Johnson MF2500
    Wyred4Sound DAC2
    Audioquest Black Mamba II

    For Sale:
    3x Wilson Cub's
    Conrad Johnson MF2500
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited December 2010
    Why not look at an AVR and use it as a pre. At $400-$500 you can get an entry level pioneer elite or Onkyo 807/808. They have all the lastest technology and does HD decoding.
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited December 2010
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Why not look at an AVR and use it as a pre. At $400-$500 you can get an entry level pioneer elite or Onkyo 807/808. They have all the lastest technology and does HD decoding.


    I would definitely consider that as well. Lets add that to the list then. If any of you are looking to unload an AVR (would rather stick to pio elite or onkyo) to use as a pre. please let me know. Tahnks leroy.

    Shawn
    Shawn
    AVR: Marantz SR-5011
    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
    Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
    DVD Player: Sony PS4
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited December 2010
    http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch&1292549279&&&/-Pioneer-Elite-VSX31-3d-intern

    http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?rcvr71ch&1296627155&&&/-Onkyo-TX-SR805-Black
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2010
    There are a couple really nice preamp processors with no hdmi for under 700 on agon right now. $3500 new a few years ago. Saw an anthem and a b&k, looked to be in great condition. Saw an Acurus Act3 on there as well.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited December 2010
    Forgot to mention; I will need pre-outs because I still want to use external amplification. But I guess with the newest formats, I have no need for multichannel analog outputs. Correct?
    Shawn
    AVR: Marantz SR-5011
    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
    Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
    DVD Player: Sony PS4
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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited December 2010
    http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR807/Onkyo/TX-NR807-THX-Select2-Plus-135-watts-Channel-7.2-Network-Receiver/1.html

    NR807 $429 + ship refurb. Pretty good deal, I bought one and will be getting it friday. Should be a good pre.
    Main Surround -
    Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub

    Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250

    Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2010
    shawn474 wrote: »
    Forgot to mention; I will need pre-outs because I still want to use external amplification. But I guess with the newest formats, I have no need for multichannel analog outputs. Correct?

    If you are using seperate amps I wouldn't consider an AVR unless I already had it in my hands.
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited December 2010
    madmax wrote: »
    If you are using seperate amps I wouldn't consider an AVR unless I already had it in my hands.

    That's what I was originally thinking; thats why I wanted to do a pre-amp (like I have now). But if an AVR would work just as well, I'd be ok with it. I just don't want to be disappointed with an AVR's performance as a pre and then go back to the original plan.
    Shawn
    AVR: Marantz SR-5011
    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
    Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
    DVD Player: Sony PS4
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  • OWiseOne
    OWiseOne Posts: 5
    edited December 2010
    If you're still interested in a very nice pre/pro setup, I have a really nice B&K Reference 50 S2 that I'll consider parting with. I was looking to list it for around $600 but will consider letting it go for less to good home. This processor has treated me very nicely and I have done the same back. It was almost $3000 new so it's actually kind of hard to let it go considering it still does everything that's required even by today's standards, minus the HDMI switching of course which never bothered me in my setup. Let me know if you're still interested.

    Boris
    2 - Fosgate Audionics 4200's
    Denon AVR2802
    Martin Logan SL3 - Front mains
    Polk CS350LS - Center
    Infinity Primus P362 - Rear Surrounds
    Infinity Reference 2000.3 - Sides
    Martin Logan Abyss - Sub
    Wadia WT 3200 Reference Transport
    Rotel RCD-1072 CD/HDCD
    Sony PS3 - BluRay
    Monarchy Audio Model 33 DAC/Preamp
    Monarchy Audio DIP Classic
    Monarchy Audio DIP 24/96
    Ming-Da MC-7R Tube Preamp
    Grant Fidelity B-283 Tube Processor
    Sony 52" XBR4
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited December 2010
    I have been really happy with my B&K ref. pre's (I have the 20 & 30).
    I KNOW you will be happy with the 50!
    Not my best HT pre, but I have never considered selling them because of the sound quality, and the little amount invested.
    You would have to spend alot more to get better SQ.
    Great bang for buck!
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  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited January 2011
    If still looking I have a very nice b&k ref. 20 ide part with at a reasonable price. W/ remote and manual
    Main Rig:
    Krell KAV 250a biamped to mid/highs
    Parasound HCA1500A biamped to lows
    Nakamichi EC100 Active xover
    MIT exp 1 ic's
    Perreaux SA33 class A preamp
    AQ kingcobra ic's
    OPPO 83 CDP
    Lehmann audio black cube SE phono pre, Audioquest phono wire (ITA1/1)
    Denon DP-1200 TT. AToc9ML MC cart.
    Monster HTS 3600 power conditioner
    ADS L1590/2 Biamped
    MIT exps2 speaker cable
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited January 2011
    soundfreak1 wrote: »
    If still looking I have a very nice b&k ref. 20 ide part with at a reasonable price. W/ remote and manual

    Thanks for the offer, but I am looking for a pre-amp with multichannel inputs.
    Shawn
    AVR: Marantz SR-5011
    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
    Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
    DVD Player: Sony PS4
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  • warlocks1
    warlocks1 Posts: 1,212
    edited January 2011
    I have a JBL AV1, which is the same as the Lexicon MC4. It is an awesome processor. I purchased it at Tweeter a few years ago. MSRP was $4500. I upgraded since I needed HDMI. It is in good shape with remote and manual. I will sell for $500.00. I am in Burke VA.
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    edited January 2011
    Hi Shawn, I have a Sony-TAE9000ES I would part with if you think you would like that. I wasn't going to sell it but I also don't use it so it may as well go to someone else. Not sure how it compares to the B&K stuff but I can tell you my father also uses one and it sounds great for movies on his set up. Mine is currently used for a simple two channel system I rarely use.

    Just a thought if you are still looking.

    Aaron
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited January 2011
    chandler9a wrote: »
    Hi Shawn, I have a Sony-TAE9000ES I would part with if you think you would like that. I wasn't going to sell it but I also don't use it so it may as well go to someone else. Not sure how it compares to the B&K stuff but I can tell you my father also uses one and it sounds great for movies on his set up. Mine is currently used for a simple two channel system I rarely use.

    Just a thought if you are still looking.

    Aaron

    Aaron,
    I might be interested, but I dont think this model has multi channel inputs does it? How much were you looking to get for it?

    Shawn
    Shawn
    AVR: Marantz SR-5011
    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
    Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
    DVD Player: Sony PS4
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    edited January 2011
    Sent ya a PM Shawn
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  • chandler9a
    chandler9a Posts: 878
    edited January 2011
    Yeah, sorry, I didn't get the multi channel thing at first.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited January 2011
    The B&k ref 50 pre/pro is the bomb, and at that price point, you'd be hard pressed to do better.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • shawn474
    shawn474 Posts: 3,047
    edited January 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    The B&k ref 50 pre/pro is the bomb, and at that price point, you'd be hard pressed to do better.

    If I could get the funds together, that is definitely the way I want to go. I have some things selling on ebay right now that will dictate what I am able to afford. I also would then part with my outlaw 950 as well (another member is interested in purchasing it). So all in all, if I can get the $600, I will be getting the B&K Ref 50.

    Shawn
    Shawn
    AVR: Marantz SR-5011
    Center Channel: Polk LsiM706c
    Front: Polk LsiM703
    Rear: LSI fx
    Subwoofer: SVS 20-39pci
    Television: Samsung UN58NU7100FXZA
    DVD Player: Sony PS4
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  • warlocks1
    warlocks1 Posts: 1,212
    edited January 2011
    Not trying to pimp my stuff, but IMHO, the JBL/Lexicon MC4 will outperform the B&K in surround modes and is just as good in stereo. I owned a B&K ref 30 and I definitely prefer the Lexicon over it. To be fair, I never listened to the ref 50. I ran both through my B&K 7270 amp. I do live B&K products.

    As always, just my opinion.
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