General Thoughts on Stereo Subs?
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I was curious what you guys thought about running two subs in stereo for two channel listening. In the little bit I've managed to find to read on the subject, I've seen everything from it being necessary to prevent the sub from collapsing the sound stage to it having an actively negative effect on bass response. It looks like there was one fellow who was trying it on here a couple of years ago, but most of the threads he posted in just resulted in a bunch of people calling him crazy. Anyone tried it since?
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In general, I like stereo subwoofers.Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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We have more than one using stereo subs with good results. Key I think is getting 2 of the same subs. When useing different subs,you have alot of issues to overcome and they will never sound right.HT SYSTEM-
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We have more than one using stereo subs with good results. Key I think is getting 2 of the same subs. When useing different subs,you have alot of issues to overcome and they will never sound right.
this is correct. The exception to this is in home theater where you can use matching stereo subs for the mains and another larger sub for the LFE.
However, unless you have an enormous room, I highly doubt "the soundfield would collapse" with one sub. Depending on where they are crossed over and the placement of one sub, I submit that many would not even notice a clearly discernible difference without A/B'ing the setup.design is where science and art break even. -
PS full disclosure: I am one of the people here happily running stereo subsdesign is where science and art break even.
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I am running stereo subs for 2 channel. I've spent zero time in integrating them as they should, and it still sounds great to me._________________________________________________
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Thanks, guys. It sounds like it would be worth it to pick up a second sub should a great deal arise, but it should be a low priority.
Just out of curiosity, where do y'all running stereo subs have them crossed over? -
All depends on the speakers dude, it's going to vary depending on what the 2 fronts can handle.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
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I'm aware. I'm curious to know how high of frequencies those who find stereo subs to be an improvement are running to their subs.
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Look at it this way. I have no idea what most here set there subs at but I do this. I set my sub to where audibly my mains roll off. I don't use frequencies, I don't use anything but my ear. Sure, I have gear that can get the nitty-gritty down to a science but I still rely upon my ear. It never lies.
That said, low.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Is that a new setting Tom,"low" ? LOL !!!:biggrin:
Let's see, we'll start at zero, then move down the crossover to "Low", then below that,"Very Low", then on to " Your just being stupid now" and finally on to the last setting,"WTF ".
I think I just created a new labeling system for subwoofers.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
That'll work. :biggrin:~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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I set mine at the lowest xover setting, which I think is around 40 HZ (Micropro 3000's), Then I set the gain by ear._________________________________________________
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I'm x'ed-over at 80Hz on my mains' stereo subs and my LFE filter is set to 100 on the 3rd subdesign is where science and art break even.
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There are a couple advantages with using stereo subs. You can position the subs in more favourable locations where the bass is better as you would place a regular subwoofer since subwoofers are non-directional. And you can use a bass optimizer to help blend the subwoofers with the mains. Other than that, subs can also be a waste of money when your mains are plenty capable of producing the bass and you're gonna get negligible gain over a single sub.2Ch Tube Audio Convert
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Of course, deeper extension is always a plus.2Ch Tube Audio Convert