Polk M70s + Parasound HCA 1500a impressions

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  • cnoat
    cnoat Posts: 315
    edited December 2010
    Lietuvis91 wrote: »
    Here's a pic of this 2 ch rig. The pic is kind of crappy because I took it with my phone.

    ...and looking at this pic.... it seems there is room for a 2nd 1500a down there, right next to the first one... hmmm... 2x 1500As in mono mode would mean 635 watts per ch. :eek:


    I might just do it, if I can score another 1500a for a decent price(~$400)...:rolleyes:

    1500's don't sound that great bridged.They have a little hiss.I run rti'12 and they sound great.
    Parasound Avc-1800
    Mains-Rti 12 -Parasound 1500a
    Center-Csi5-Parasound 1000a
    Rears-Rti 8-Parasound 750a
    Sub SVS Ultra Tv 12
    Diamondback and King Cobra IC's
    AQ T4 SC
  • cnoat
    cnoat Posts: 315
    edited December 2010
    Put that money towards dedicated pre.Makes a huge difference.
    Parasound Avc-1800
    Mains-Rti 12 -Parasound 1500a
    Center-Csi5-Parasound 1000a
    Rears-Rti 8-Parasound 750a
    Sub SVS Ultra Tv 12
    Diamondback and King Cobra IC's
    AQ T4 SC
  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited December 2010
    cnoat wrote: »
    Put that money towards dedicated pre.Makes a huge difference.

    That would be another good way to spend that money. Plus it would free up your elite to be used elsewhere.:smile:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
  • Lietuvis91
    Lietuvis91 Posts: 908
    edited December 2010
    Jeez guys.... really?! So a 1500a doesn't sound good in mono... hmmm... ok. Well, the only reason I came up with this idea is because:
    1) I have to room in the rack
    2) I have the money
    3) Curious to see what stupid amounts of power would do for me here (however, sounds like not much based on your comments)

    I am actually completely content with this setup as it is and I was just thinking that with more power I was going to get more/deeper bass. This is the only thing I would improve in this system, even though it is quiet solid already, and I could be fine with it as is.

    I guess a sub would be the easiest/cheapest solution here, but I was willing to try something different... especially since I don't want to clutter the room with another box.

    I don't think a pre/pro would help me to achieve this, would it?
    Living Room 7.1 HT Rig:

    M70 | CS2 | M60 | Atrium5 - Surr. | SUB - Emotiva ULTRA12 + Tara Labs sub cable | Pioneer Elite VSX-52 | Parasound HCAs 1000A | Sony BDP-S790 | Belkin PureAV PF60 | MIT Exp2 Wires

    Bedroom 5.0 HT Rig (Music/Movies/Gaming) :

    LSi9 | LsiC | Lsi/fx | Marantz SR7002 | NAD T955 | Sony BDP-S360 | Belkin PureAV PF30 | AQ Blue Racer II ICs & AQ Type 4 wires | PS3
  • Lietuvis91
    Lietuvis91 Posts: 908
    edited December 2010
    cnoat wrote: »
    Put that money towards dedicated pre.Makes a huge difference.

    what kind of a difference would I expect from one of those. Honestly, I don't know jack about pre/pro's, that entire concept scares me a little. I would need one with hdmi, and that probably means, pretty big money?!
    Living Room 7.1 HT Rig:

    M70 | CS2 | M60 | Atrium5 - Surr. | SUB - Emotiva ULTRA12 + Tara Labs sub cable | Pioneer Elite VSX-52 | Parasound HCAs 1000A | Sony BDP-S790 | Belkin PureAV PF60 | MIT Exp2 Wires

    Bedroom 5.0 HT Rig (Music/Movies/Gaming) :

    LSi9 | LsiC | Lsi/fx | Marantz SR7002 | NAD T955 | Sony BDP-S360 | Belkin PureAV PF30 | AQ Blue Racer II ICs & AQ Type 4 wires | PS3
  • KrazyMofo24
    KrazyMofo24 Posts: 1,210
    edited December 2010
    anonymouse wrote: »
    How do you buy your music then? Where can you buy FLAC files legally?

    hdtracks.com is one site, I believe there are a few others.
    Setup:

    2 Channel: Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grand, T+A P 1230R, Primare SPA21, Oppo BDP-105
    PC: Vienna Acoustics Haydn Grand, Cambridge Azure 650A v2 , Peachtree iDAC, Denon DVD-3800BDCI

  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited December 2010
    Lietuvis91 wrote: »
    Jeez guys.... really?! So a 1500a doesn't sound good in mono... hmmm... ok. Well, the only reason I came up with this idea is because:
    1) I have to room in the rack
    2) I have the money
    3) Curious to see what stupid amounts of power would do for me here (however, sounds like not much based on your comments)

    I am actually completely content with this setup as it is and I was just thinking that with more power I was going to get more/deeper bass. This is the only thing I would improve in this system, even though it is quiet solid already, and I could be fine with it as is.

    I guess a sub would be the easiest/cheapest solution here, but I was willing to try something different... especially since I don't want to clutter the room with another box.

    I don't think a pre/pro would help me to achieve this, would it?

    The 1500A is giving the speakers all they can handle right now. You most likely won't hear any difference by giving them more since they are getting all they need now. Basically, you have reached the limitations of the speakers.

    I should know, since my first real powerful amp was the 1500A on my RTA-8Ts and my center was being run with a Outlaw monoblock. When I got the 405wpc Sunfire in my signature, the only speakers that showed an improvement were my back speakers since they were the only ones not running on an amp. They now sound just as good as my front speakers.

    If the money is burning a hole in your pocket then go for a prepro.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited December 2010
    Or upgrade the speakers. There's a whole nutha world of sound out there beyond the monitor line.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited December 2010
    Lietuvis91 wrote: »
    what kind of a difference would I expect from one of those. Honestly, I don't know jack about pre/pro's, that entire concept scares me a little. I would need one with hdmi, and that probably means, pretty big money?!

    Why do you need HDMI?

    AVR's are like swiss army knives; they can do alot of things, but they don't do any of them as well as their separate counterparts...ie, the scissors in a swiss army knife aren't as good as a separate pair of scissors. The plus side to AVR's is the same as the plus side to swiss army knives: they cost less and take up less space than buying individual components of equal or greater quality.

    The pre can make a huge difference in sound. From passive lines stages to tubes, there is a lot you can do with a pre to alter your sound.

    Parasound's are known for solid bass, so your perceived lacking has nothing to do with that... and doubling the 1500a's up won't increase the bass.

    If you want more bass but you don't want a sub, then new speakers are the way to go.

    Are you mainly using your bluray as a source or your computer out of the headphone jack still? If you're still using the computer, then before you get new speakers or a new pre, get an external DAC with a USB input and find out what your speakers+marantz+parasound actually sound like.:wink:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

    Living Room: PC > Marantz AV-7703 > Emotiva XPA-5 > Sonus Faber Liuto Towers, Sonus Faber Liuto Center, Sonus Faber Liuto Bookshelves > Dual SVS PC12-Pluses

    Office: Phone/Tablet > AudioEngine B1 > McIntosh D100 > Bryston 4B-ST > Polk Audio LSiM-703's
  • Lietuvis91
    Lietuvis91 Posts: 908
    edited December 2010
    whoa.... ok, a lot of good information here!

    Well, I have no doubt that there are better speakers than my m70s out there, but I honestly do like them a lot, and actually don't really want to part with them just yet.

    I do use my BR player for music listening and also listen to radio alot. I tried the laptop headphones jack just as a test for mp3s, and it was terrible, so no more of that.

    I think the next step will be to add a tv to this setup and move the ps3 from HT duty to 2ch duty, the BR player will go to HT, where it belongs. This way I can stream music off of my laptop through the network with the ps3 and also play CDs.

    As for bass, it is really pretty solid already from these speakers. It's just that going from the living room where I have that monster emo 12 inch, which, of course, blows the m70s away, makes me think getting a little more bass out of m70s would be nice. My expectations here are not really realistic, i suppose, and really not necessary in the first place. When it comes to bass, I shouldn't expect my 2ch rig to compare with a HT system that includes a 12in sub.

    I guess I will work with what i have for now, and learn a bit more, then I will move on to bigger and better things(sub, pre/pro and a dac), as we all always do... :wink:
    Living Room 7.1 HT Rig:

    M70 | CS2 | M60 | Atrium5 - Surr. | SUB - Emotiva ULTRA12 + Tara Labs sub cable | Pioneer Elite VSX-52 | Parasound HCAs 1000A | Sony BDP-S790 | Belkin PureAV PF60 | MIT Exp2 Wires

    Bedroom 5.0 HT Rig (Music/Movies/Gaming) :

    LSi9 | LsiC | Lsi/fx | Marantz SR7002 | NAD T955 | Sony BDP-S360 | Belkin PureAV PF30 | AQ Blue Racer II ICs & AQ Type 4 wires | PS3