Getting ready to pull the trigger.....amp question

angelsfann02
angelsfann02 Posts: 589
I am getting ready to buy my first dedicated amp. I will be using my Pioneer vsx-23thx as a preamp. Will probably getting the Emotiva xpa-5, unless a local pawnshop decides to sell a Parasound 1205-a they have in stock. My question is what cables do I need to connect the receiver to the amp? It needs to be the cost effective as well. Maybe Monoprice? I will be upgrading them later anyways. Thanks!
LIVING ROOM:
Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
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  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited November 2010
    How cost effective? I really like Audioquest Alpha Snake as a budget interconnect. You can get a 1.0m 5 pack on Audio Advisor for $63.75. I think its a great deal. Their is also the Analog One or Analog Two from Signal Cable that can be had for about $100 for the Analog One and $130 or so for the Analog Two. All quality cable, just depends on your budget.

    Outlaw Audio PCA Interconnects are also very nice, but a little more expensive, and they only have 2.0 Meter and up available right now. The 2.0M x 3 Pairs go for about $160...

    Don
    Living Room: Adcom GFP-750 (Upgraded), Squeezebox Touch, Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-79AVi, Parasound HCA-3500 (Upgraded), SDA SRS 2 P/B (Gimpod, Sonicaps, & Mills)

    Theater: Denon 4311ci, Oppo BDP-93, Parasound HCA-2205+HCA-2200II, Polk LSi9, LSiC, LSiFX, LSi7, Custom 18" TC Sounds sub with 2 18" PR, Sharp XV-Z12000, Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M (isf Enabled)

    Bedroom: HK AVR354, Pioneer DV-47a, Parasound HCA-1500a, Polk LSi9
  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited November 2010
    Signal is good and cheap, and when you upgrade your amp you will already have decent cables.
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    Benjamin Franklin, February 17th, 1775.

    "The day that I have to give up my constitutional rights AND let some dude rub my junk...well, let's just say that it's gonna be a real bad day for the dude trying to rub my junk!!"
    messiah, November 23rd, 2010
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    Don, thanks for your input. Does Monoprice (maybe their brand) offer any of these? I am located very close to their warehouse?
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited November 2010
    Not that I am aware of. Most of this stuff besides the Audioquest is online only.

    Don
    Living Room: Adcom GFP-750 (Upgraded), Squeezebox Touch, Oppo BDP-83, Pioneer DV-79AVi, Parasound HCA-3500 (Upgraded), SDA SRS 2 P/B (Gimpod, Sonicaps, & Mills)

    Theater: Denon 4311ci, Oppo BDP-93, Parasound HCA-2205+HCA-2200II, Polk LSi9, LSiC, LSiFX, LSi7, Custom 18" TC Sounds sub with 2 18" PR, Sharp XV-Z12000, Pioneer Kuro KRP-500M (isf Enabled)

    Bedroom: HK AVR354, Pioneer DV-47a, Parasound HCA-1500a, Polk LSi9
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    Does Signal offer the same deals for speaker wire for the fronts and center? If so what model?
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited November 2010
    the Monoprice ones are GREAT for their price. i still have some in my Bedroom rig. their ICs and HDMIs are well worth the cheap prices.
    mole'
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    Mole, specifically which ones, I wanna look em up on their website.
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited November 2010
    +1 to what mole said. Monoprice has some solid cables at incredible prices.

    Btw, you'll love the XPA-5.
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    edoggrc51 wrote: »
    +1 to what mole said. Monoprice has some solid cables at incredible prices.

    Btw, you'll love the XPA-5.

    Which cables and wires did you use?
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited November 2010
    How long do you need them to be?
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited November 2010
    mole' wrote: »

    These are what I used. Very thick and sturdy cables. I am sure there are better, but since I just started out myself and didnt have tons to spend on cables after putting all the money into the amp, they work great for now.

    What gauge speaker wire do you currently have?

    I suggest 14 gauge from monoprice as well. I purchased a 300ft spool for 78 bucks (I rewired my old place and then moved) and still have tons of it left over.

    Also suggest their naner's and spades......
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited November 2010
    These are what I used. Very thick and sturdy cables. I am sure there are better, but since I just started out myself and didnt have tons to spend on cables after putting all the money into the amp, they work great for now.

    What gauge speaker wire do you currently have?

    I suggest 14 gauge from monoprice as well. I purchased a 300ft spool for 78 bucks (I rewired my old place and then moved) and still have tons of it left over.

    Also suggest their naner's and spades......

    i got the 300ft roll of the 12awg wire and bananas from Monoprice.

    i have MIT speaker cables ( front/center for front room and bedroom rigs) now but still use the Monoprice wires for my rears and surrounds
    mole'
  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited November 2010
    Same here. The 12ga speaker cable and banana's are tough to argue against considering their price.
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited November 2010
    mole' wrote: »
    i got the 300ft roll of the 12awg wire and bananas from Monoprice.

    i have MIT speaker cables ( front/center for front room and bedroom rigs) now but still use the Monoprice wires for my rears and surrounds
    edoggrc51 wrote: »
    Same here. The 12ga speaker cable and banana's are tough to argue against considering their price.

    Yeah I thought about the 12 gauge, but considering my runs are pretty short, I went with 14 (that and I was pretty new to all this and was moving from 22 gauge to begin with). If I had it to do over again I would have gone w/ 12, but hey I am sure I will run out of the wire eventually......
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    My dilema is this guys or maybe im just blind to the obvious, but especially if I buy an older amp, Im supposed to use rca's to connect it to my Pio 23thx? Alot of older amps have another "out" that resembles a svideo output?????
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited November 2010
    You should be fine with the RCA's. What older amp were you looking at that had a different kind of output?
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    I was looking at a parasound 1205a. Its going for real cheap. Im just used to connecting my stuff with hdmi's because I thought rca' s were outdated. By the way, what are XLR cables for? It looms like older amps have this type of output or are the for microphones?
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited November 2010
    No, they by no means are outdated. I did a quick google search and it looks like you'll be just fine with RCA's for the Parasound.

    Btw, are you going to the GTG in SD this Saturday?
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    I'm trying to get the day off. Hopefully my buddy at work will cover my shift.....
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    who are you going with?
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited November 2010
    I'm going with a friend of mine to pick up some acoustic panels and to DEMO a sub before the GTG.

    Hopefully you can make it out.
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    Ya, me too. I have lots of questions!
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited November 2010
    Where are you located?

    I'm no expert but I'd be more than happy to have you over and help with whatever i could.
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    San Berdo.
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited November 2010
    Oh ok. Right down the street. I'm off of Beech & Baseline.

    Lemme know.:smile:
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    Kool. We're practically neighbors.
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited November 2010
    Ya! :biggrin:
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
  • angelsfann02
    angelsfann02 Posts: 589
    edited November 2010
    Any other polkies live by us?
    LIVING ROOM:
    Pioneer PDP-6070HD, Pioneer Elite SC-25, Pioneer Elite BDP-05FD,
    Emotiva XPA-5, Emotiva USP-1, Polk LSI15's, Polk LSiC, Velodyne 12", Mirage Nanosat Prestige rears, MIT AVT Speaker Cables, Audioquest King Cobra Interconnects, Panamax M5300pm Surge Protection/ Power Conditioning
    BEDROOM: VIZIO 32" LCD, Pioneer Elite VSX-23txh, Pioneer Elite BDP-23FD, Parasound HCA-2205A, Mirage Nanosat Prestige Speakers 5.1, Mirage S8 Sub, Monoprice cables, APC Surge Protection.
  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited November 2010
    None that I know of???
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express