The real Jolida website??

Stew
Stew Posts: 645
edited November 2010 in Electronics
I just read Jetmaker747's excellent review of the Jolida JD100 and then stumbled on a website that claims to be the new official Jolida website:

http://jolida.net/

There is a warning on this site about Jolida INC (Jolida.com) in Maryland. They claim that Jolida INC, their former American distributor, stole their designs and produced counterfeits.

If jolida.net is for real, their factory direct prices are outstanding. How about a JD100A for $469 including shipping! This seems too good to be true. If this is for real, it's time to upgrade! Anyone have any info??
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,878
    edited November 2010
    http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquirySearch.jis

    That's a link for the Maryland Judiciary case search site.

    Looks like Jolida (manufacturer) sued Jolida, Inc (US distributor) for breach of contract regarding the Jolida name.

    Case closed in June 2010, so I assume Jolida, Inc lost.

    There's a thread about this somewhere around here.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2010
    The Maryland decision is likely only one of many around the world where the Jolida brand is trademarked. If Jolida is truly intent on reclaiming their name around the world, litigation in every country is virtually the only solid recourse. I guarantee there is a decision in China that went the opposite direction because their TM laws protect their native companies without considering economic repercussions in the longterm. Usually the decisions have to make it all the way to the Supreme Court of China a.k.a. People's Supreme Court before any common sense is practiced. That means tons of money and time.

    I wonder if there is an audio manufacturers trade organization that helps litigate cases such as this. I know clothing manufacturers opt in to a litigation group that the clothing companies pay into like insurance. The group protects their marks overseas when foreign companies (especially in China) claim a mark as their own.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited November 2010
    Jolida will be forever tainted by this fiasco and resale values have also taken a dive. Glad I'm divested of them for now.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,505
    edited November 2010
    sounds like a good time to get back into them though if you can get them cheap. 469 for a Jolida 100 is pretty sweet.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited November 2010
    Their phono preamp is very nice and at $295 shipped is an absolute steal.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,499
    edited November 2010
    I have been preparing for my 2chnl rig early next year with tubes and have looked at these before JD3000A would this be a bad idea???
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited November 2010
    ohskigod wrote: »
    sounds like a good time to get back into them though if you can get them cheap. 469 for a Jolida 100 is pretty sweet.

    I've bought them for that much 3 years ago.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited November 2010
    ricardo wrote: »
    their phono preamp is very nice and at $295 shipped is an absolute steal.
    +1...
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited November 2010
    Stew wrote: »
    I just read Jetmaker747's excellent review of the Jolida JD100 and then stumbled on a website that claims to be the new official Jolida website:

    http://jolida.net/

    There is a warning on this site about Jolida INC (Jolida.com) in Maryland. They claim that Jolida INC, their former American distributor, stole their designs and produced counterfeits.

    If jolida.net is for real, their factory direct prices are outstanding. How about a JD100A for $469 including shipping! This seems too good to be true. If this is for real, it's time to upgrade! Anyone have any info??

    Just a side note here. I just perused this site. And this 'is' the site that I toured while in China....The facilities and the individuals you see in the videos are the people who I, myself, met and spoke too. They make a fine product. Enough said.

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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2010
    mrbigbluelight wrote: »
    http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquirySearch.jis

    That's a link for the Maryland Judiciary case search site.

    Looks like Jolida (manufacturer) sued Jolida, Inc (US distributor) for breach of contract regarding the Jolida name.

    Case closed in June 2010, so I assume Jolida, Inc lost.

    There's a thread about this somewhere around here.

    You guys know everything
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,564
    edited November 2010
    I have been interested in the new Jolida Tubed DAC and have been e-mailing the "real" Jolida and they have been responding. I have also repeatedly e-mailed the Maryland Jolida and not received a returned e-mail in over 2 weeks. A dealer in California has quoted me a delivered to my house price for the DAC but has had difficulty getting any information for me other than a picture of the DAC.

    The new Tubed DAC is supposed to be available for December 1, 2010 but I am skeptical, because no info is available on a unit that is supposed to ship in less than 25 days, But I may be asking for to much.

    Time will tell.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,686
    edited November 2010
    Case closed in June 2010, so I assume Jolida, Inc lost.

    I believe it was the other way around.

    Something to think about....the Chinese Jolida doesn't have a service center in the US. If you require service you have to ship the unit to Canada.
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  • chargerman426
    chargerman426 Posts: 419
    edited November 2010
    Hey Scott have you heard if the DAC is going to have a USB input?
    If life had more tubes it would be a lot smoother.
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,564
    edited November 2010
    I believe it does but no one has been able to furnish any specs yet.
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  • chargerman426
    chargerman426 Posts: 419
    edited November 2010
    Let me know if you find anything out as I would like to find a fairly cheep USB tube DAC.
    If life had more tubes it would be a lot smoother.
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  • Stew
    Stew Posts: 645
    edited November 2010
    I decided to go for it. I just ordered a Jolida JD-100A (from Jolida.net), a pair of TJ Full Music 12AX7's, and a 18" x 32" sheet of dynamat xtreme. Thanks for all the input. Looking forward to hearing this one!
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited November 2010
    Didn't Lou, our host at PolkFest, run a JD100 with his Carver Amazings on the second floor? If so, I'd say we all heard this player? And it sounded fine--don't know if Lou had any upgrades or was running with the original tubes in that, though?

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  • Jetmaker737
    Jetmaker737 Posts: 1,105
    edited November 2010
    Stew wrote: »
    I decided to go for it. I just ordered a Jolida JD-100A (from Jolida.net), a pair of TJ Full Music 12AX7's, and a 18" x 32" sheet of dynamat xtreme. Thanks for all the input. Looking forward to hearing this one!

    Congrats! I think you will like it.

    Jet
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,686
    edited November 2010
    Reported.
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