Is audioquest misleading and scientificly false?

myke
myke Posts: 138
edited November 2010 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
I have read a lot of peoples post about audioquest that say in the past and now currently audioquest misleads and factually misrepresents what their wires/cables can do? These are elec eng's whp are writing these things too, any one agree or disagree? what are your thoughts? I actually have their HDMI cables from forrest and they seem fine, probably better than my AR's acutually.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,456
    edited November 2010
    Someone please pass the popcorn...
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  • ecod123
    ecod123 Posts: 379
    edited November 2010
    John, break from DIY, eh? Sit back and enjoy! Pass back the popcorn, please!
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited November 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Someone please pass the popcorn...

    I've actually got the big popper going. I hope everyone likes extra butter :biggrin:
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    messiah, November 23rd, 2010
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited November 2010
    OOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhh no you didnt
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited November 2010
    messiah wrote: »
    I've actually got the big popper going. I hope everyone likes extra butter :biggrin:

    I like popcorn with my butter.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,456
    edited November 2010
    ecod123 wrote: »
    John, break from DIY, eh? Sit back and enjoy! Pass back the popcorn, please!

    yeah man... can't smell more solder tonight.:tongue:
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,723
    edited November 2010
    Solder at night is almost as good as Napalm in the morning.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2010
    if you try to fail and succeed which have you done???

    RT1
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited November 2010
    Hmmmm..... Butter who has the BUTTER!!!!


    My popcorn is dry.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,456
    edited November 2010
    I have the sea salt if anyone needs it... Keiko, be a sweetie and grab us a few beers please.
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  • ecod123
    ecod123 Posts: 379
    edited November 2010
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    if you try to fail and succeed which have you done???

    RT1

    succeeded at failing?:confused:
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited November 2010
    I actually can't wait for John K's response :rolleyes:


    I have some black truffle salt if anyone wants to try buttered black truffle popcorn :biggrin:

    Edit, I also have bacon salt so we can make bacon popcorn too!!!
    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2010
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Hmmmm..... Butter who has the BUTTER!!!!


    My popcorn is dry.

    dunno, but I have a sheet of visquene.

    RT1
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited November 2010
    Sorry I used up all the butter. My bad. Burp.
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  • CTTE
    CTTE Posts: 183
    edited November 2010
    messiah wrote: »

    I also have bacon salt so we can make bacon popcorn too!!!

    My grandpa used to make us popcorn popped in bacon grease.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2010
    I tell my grandbabes that too, I actually use gopher guts.

    RT1
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,456
    edited November 2010
    I heard that Orville Reddenbacher uses the same exact corn as those gourmet, snobby "High End" elitists do, but he charges much less for it than they do... and unlike those uber expensive fakes, every one of HIS kernels pop! anyone share this experience?
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  • ecod123
    ecod123 Posts: 379
    edited November 2010
    Ok, we have popcorn (butter and all), beer and etc, so when is the fireworks . . . eh, I mean the show gonna start?:biggrin:
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2010
    the cartoon just played.

    RT1
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited November 2010
    John K's son?
    I like air popped pop corn. Delicious and nutritious.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,456
    edited November 2010
    ecod123 wrote: »
    Ok, we have popcorn (butter and all), beer and etc, so when is the fireworks . . . eh, I mean the show gonna start?:biggrin:

    Nope.. the beer isn't here yet. I think Keiko is slipping into something more ummmm..... comfortable. :tongue::biggrin:
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2010
    me, her, butter and a sheet of visquene.......gives the term "slide ruler" a whole new meaning.

    RT1
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,723
    edited November 2010
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    me, her, butter and a sheet of visquene.......gives the term "slide ruler" a whole new meaning.

    RT1

    He's here all week folks. Don't forget to tip your waitress.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited November 2010
    *sarcasm on* I actually think all cables sound the same, so it doesn't matter how much you spend or what cables you buy. Audioquest lies all the time about their cables. I have actually never heard their cables at all, but that is still my opinion on the subject. *Sarcasm off*:biggrin::biggrin:


    Greg

    Edit: Is that somewhat close to what you were looking for?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,456
    edited November 2010
    headrott wrote: »
    *sarcasm on* I actually think all cables sound the same, so it doesn't matter how much you spend or what cables you buy. Audioquest lies all the time about their cables. I have actually never heard their cables at all, but that is still my opinion on the subject. *Sarcasm off*:biggrin::biggrin:


    Greg

    Edit: Is that somewhat close to what you were looking for?

    Reported for being sarcastic and off-topic. This thread is all about pOPcORn!:tongue::wink::biggrin:
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  • nguyendot
    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited November 2010
    You can always answer your own question and try some of their cables yourself.

    It's not like they claim their cables can raise an XWing out of a swamp or tow a semi truck.
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited November 2010
    The only thing misleading is saying there is popcorn when theres NOT!


    glad I'm in WI all I have to do is go to my cow outside and I gots all the butter in the world...whahhahahaha
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited November 2010
    Best advice, give them and try and hear for yourself. I personally found AQ's use of solid conductors (rather than multi-strand) tends to accentuate treble--so if you're wanting a little more sparkle in your highs--or have overly "dark" sounding equipment--they can be a good choice. I have personally used Type 4, Granite, Sidewinder, Copperhead, and Diamondback. I was never "disappointed" but thought that the cheaper Copperhead outperformed the more expensive Diamondback, at least in my system. The DB had a very dry, 2-dimensional tonal character that I did NOT like. I could hear no difference between sidewinder and copperhead.

    The Upside is that Slate (spkr cable) and Sidewinder (IC) are relatively cheap, and will display to you 85% of the Audioquest "house sound." I think AQ is one of the best value's out there for someone wanting to experiment, without breaking the bank.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited November 2010
    Also,
    There's no doubt a healthy dose of hype goes into any marketing info--it doesn't necessarily mean the product does nothing, just don't expect miracles. There's no replacement for good core COMPONENTS first.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2010
    oh....my.....god.

    some people think cables make a difference
    some don't

    some in both camps will actually try either way and base there opinion on there experience.

    Some don't

    try diffrerent cables....like what you hear? great. don't hear a difference? even better, you just saved money. god bless.

    figure it out for yourself, and more importantly, care not wether people disagree with you on the subject
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