On My Way to Get Some 2.3tls

villock
villock Posts: 72
edited November 2010 in Vintage Speakers
Any advice on what to look for? Got him down to 650.00. He says they are in excellent shape with cable but no boxes or manual. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
SDA SRS 2.3tls; RDO 198's, Dynamatted, Armaflexed, Gimpod Boards, Crossovers by quadzilla: Clarity ESA 630V, Mills Resistors, Track Audio Spikes, Musky's Curly Maple Caps
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  • TrashyTrucker
    TrashyTrucker Posts: 225
    edited October 2010
    Run before he changes his mind!
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  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited October 2010
    Make sure the drivers aren't frozen. A gentle push on the PR will move the other drivers.

    Take a paper towel roll to the tweeters and check to make sure all of them work.

    Transport them flat. I prefer on there back side. Drivers up.

    Def. bring a friend to help carry them.
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,421
    edited October 2010
    Pics or they never happened...


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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited October 2010
    For that price, I'd double check that they are actually TL's.
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  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited October 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    For that price, I'd double check that they are actually TL's.

    TL snob.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited October 2010
    Nothing like that. It's just that the price is very cheap for TL's.
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  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited October 2010
    Lol. Just busting your chops.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited October 2010
    I know.
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  • Earthy
    Earthy Posts: 488
    edited October 2010
    Good luck on your potential buy. I am loving mine!
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited October 2010
    Congrats Whats the latest news?
    engtaz

    I love how music can brighten up a bad day.
  • Earthy
    Earthy Posts: 488
    edited October 2010
    Pictures? Always nice to see more of these bad boys finding a new loving home.
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  • villock
    villock Posts: 72
    edited October 2010
    Thanks everyone. Yes I did get these last night. They are in really good condition. Yes they are tls, I had him read the tag back to me before I went out to get them. When I first hooked them up I was kinda underwhelmed. I did the PR test and they go back within 1-2 seconds. I tightened all the screws and that made quite a difference, there is much more punchy bass and more clarity now but the woofers still retract at about the same rate. So do you guys think mortite will solve this? A few of the screws on both speakers just spin and don't bite could this be the source of a leak? Also no pics right now but will try to get some up later on tonight after the Pats beat the Chargers:D but here is the CL ad http://nh.craigslist.org/msg/2002828758.html. Buy the way Laserath you are responsible for my quest to get these speakers.Your speakers are awesome. Ever since I went to your website, I was obsessed with getting a pair. It only took me about a year and half but it was well worth the wait.
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2010
    Talk to Larry and grab some of his rings instead ;)

    Congrats on the speakers.

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,254
    edited October 2010
    And I happen to have enough rings for them;)
  • villock
    villock Posts: 72
    edited October 2010
    So do rings instead of mortite? And this will solve the problem? And also how much for a set of these? You can PM me if you wish. Thanks.
    SDA SRS 2.3tls; RDO 198's, Dynamatted, Armaflexed, Gimpod Boards, Crossovers by quadzilla: Clarity ESA 630V, Mills Resistors, Track Audio Spikes, Musky's Curly Maple Caps
    CSi5, FXi5, Rythmik D15SE sub, Pro-Ject Xpression III/Ortofon MC-3 Turbo. Pro-Ject Speed Box. Pro-Ject Tube Box II
  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2010
    And I happen to have enough rings for them;)

    See?

    Larry's got you covered.

    Alot of members already had Mortite so some of them left it on, but I've read a few other threads stating the rings create a nice seal as well so Mortite is unnecessary.
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    Phoenix Gold RSD65CS

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    Polk SR6500
    Polk SR5250
    Polk SR104


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  • zarrdoss
    zarrdoss Posts: 2,562
    edited October 2010
    get those darn pics up!:D
  • jim 249
    jim 249 Posts: 347
    edited October 2010
    PR test and they go back within 1-2 seconds. I tightened all the screws and that made quite a difference, there is much more punchy bass and more clarity now but the woofers still retract at about the same rate.

    I also had the same results with my set of 2.3tl's. I also came the the conclusion that these really start to shine when vinyl is being played through them. There is no bass roll-off used on vinyl like that is used on cd's. The only cd's I have found that sound really good through these are the Beatle ones that are made in Japan which provide a very spacious sound stage. Have fun!!!!!!!!!!!
  • villock
    villock Posts: 72
    edited October 2010
    Here are the pics

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    I must say I feel like I hit the lottery with these speakers. I absolutely love these, I cannot peel myself away. I picked up The Very Best of Supertramp last night, hadn't listened to them in years, and the entire cd sounds unbelievable on these. Every instrument is in its right place, the vocals are dead nuts center and the bass sends chills. I plan on doing all the upgrades and cannot imagine these getting any better but I sure do look foward to the improvements!
    SDA SRS 2.3tls; RDO 198's, Dynamatted, Armaflexed, Gimpod Boards, Crossovers by quadzilla: Clarity ESA 630V, Mills Resistors, Track Audio Spikes, Musky's Curly Maple Caps
    CSi5, FXi5, Rythmik D15SE sub, Pro-Ject Xpression III/Ortofon MC-3 Turbo. Pro-Ject Speed Box. Pro-Ject Tube Box II
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited October 2010
    There is no bass roll-off used on vinyl like that is used on cd's.

    Huh???
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited October 2010
    New tweeters and an XO upgrade is a huge leap forward.
    Congrats
    Ben
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    Thanks
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  • Audioquest
    Audioquest Posts: 104
    edited October 2010
    New here, so what is the techincal and sonic differences between TL and non-TL? Thanks
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited October 2010
    Audioquest wrote: »
    New here, so what is the techincal and sonic differences between TL and non-TL? Thanks

    TL stands for TriLaminate dome tweeter (part designation SL-3000). The non-TL's use a silver coil dome tweeter (SL-2000). Most, if not all, prefer the TL.

    Not sure about the technical, but sonically the sl-3000's are smoother, less harsh, and don't have the spike at 12-13khz that the sl-2000's have.
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  • Audioquest
    Audioquest Posts: 104
    edited November 2010
    TL stands for TriLaminate dome tweeter (part designation SL-3000). The non-TL's use a silver coil dome tweeter (SL-2000). Most, if not all, prefer the TL.

    Not sure about the technical, but sonically the sl-3000's are smoother, less harsh, and don't have the spike at 12-13khz that the sl-2000's have.

    Ah, thanks.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited November 2010
    villock wrote: »
    Here are the pics

    100_5149.JPG
    100_5155.jpg
    100_5158.jpg
    100_5152.JPG
    100_5153.jpg


    I must say I feel like I hit the lottery with these speakers. I absolutely love these, I cannot peel myself away. I picked up The Very Best of Supertramp last night, hadn't listened to them in years, and the entire cd sounds unbelievable on these. Every instrument is in its right place, the vocals are dead nuts center and the bass sends chills. I plan on doing all the upgrades and cannot imagine these getting any better but I sure do look foward to the improvements!

    Congatulations on the speaker buy! You stole those from the guy at the $650.00 price! They look to be be in very nice shape. As Ben said, do the XO's and RDO-198 tweets and as Larry said the rings and I will add spike them and you will be much more impressed by these speakers.:biggrin:

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  • Earthy
    Earthy Posts: 488
    edited November 2010
    Interesting, my 2.3TL's have silverish looking domes on the tweeters.

    Congrats on the new SDA's I love mine and like you plan to do some updating.
    Polk Audio SDA SRS 2.3TL
    Parasound Halo A21
    Parasound Halo P3

    Home theater
    Polk LSiM 707, 706c, 703, 705
    Polk Blackstone TL3 for height
    SVS PB12-ISD Sub
    Denon AVR-X6400h
    Parasound Halo A51
    LG OLED65B7A
    Sony UBPX800
    Logitech Harmony Elite
    PC LSiM 703
    Spare LSIM 702 and 706c

    Home Theater #2
    Polk Audio LS70, CS350LS, LSF/X, S4
    Onkyo TX-NR808



  • villock
    villock Posts: 72
    edited November 2010
    headrott wrote: »
    Congatulations on the speaker buy! You stole those from the guy at the $650.00 price! They look to be be in very nice shape. As Ben said, do the XO's and RDO-198 tweets and as Larry said the rings and I will add spike them and you will be much more impressed by these speakers.:biggrin:

    Greg

    Thanks. They are in very good condition. Like I said, I can't believe that these are going to get better, they are that good the way they are right now. Funny thing is when I talked to him last Thursday, he was asking 1,000.00, I offered him 650.00 and he said that he could sell them to me for 750.00. I said that I would think about it (I was going to buy them at this price unless they were used for tackling dummys). I was just about to call him and and tell him I would buy them for 750.00 and he calls me and says he would do the 650.00:biggrin: that he had to move the next day and had to sell them. Anyways, I couldn't get up there fast enough.
    SDA SRS 2.3tls; RDO 198's, Dynamatted, Armaflexed, Gimpod Boards, Crossovers by quadzilla: Clarity ESA 630V, Mills Resistors, Track Audio Spikes, Musky's Curly Maple Caps
    CSi5, FXi5, Rythmik D15SE sub, Pro-Ject Xpression III/Ortofon MC-3 Turbo. Pro-Ject Speed Box. Pro-Ject Tube Box II
  • villock
    villock Posts: 72
    edited November 2010
    Earthy wrote: »
    Interesting, my 2.3TL's have silverish looking domes on the tweeters.

    Congrats on the new SDA's I love mine and like you plan to do some updating.

    Thanks. I think it's the camera. In person they are silver. I have already pulled all 6 and and they are all sl3000s and stamped 1990 or 1991.
    SDA SRS 2.3tls; RDO 198's, Dynamatted, Armaflexed, Gimpod Boards, Crossovers by quadzilla: Clarity ESA 630V, Mills Resistors, Track Audio Spikes, Musky's Curly Maple Caps
    CSi5, FXi5, Rythmik D15SE sub, Pro-Ject Xpression III/Ortofon MC-3 Turbo. Pro-Ject Speed Box. Pro-Ject Tube Box II
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,569
    edited November 2010
    The SL3000's came in various colors, silver, kinda black and kinda gold. Due to the manufacturing process the outcome could not be controlled. It matters not really, they all sound the same.

    Get the rings, forget the Mortite.

    There are many more differences between the 2.3TL model and the non-TL model than just the tweeters.
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  • audio_alan
    audio_alan Posts: 770
    edited November 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    ...

    There are many more differences between the 2.3TL model and the non-TL model than just the tweeters.

    Yep, they look more different than similar when you look at the parts list:

    (MODEL
    TWEETER
    DRIVER
    SDA DRIVER
    BASS
    RADIATOR CROSSOVER)

    SDA SRS 2.3TL
    3x SL3000
    4x MW6510
    2x MW6510
    SW155
    BR2200-C

    SDA SRS 2.3
    3x SL2000
    2x MW6511 / 2x MW6513
    2x MW6510
    SW155
    BE2200-A

    Not to mention, the non-tl's have those funky donut drivers...

    (FYI - Parts list obtained from the "SDA Series Driver and Crossover List" document, posted here courtesy of dorokusai: http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showpost.php?p=916059&postcount=8)