I lost my ALL my music!

B Run
B Run Posts: 1,888
edited October 2010 in Music & Movies
So a year or 2 ago I had my truck broken into and lost about 250 cd's, which was not a big deal because they were all saved on my computer. Since then I haven't bought a cd and just got all my music online. A few days ago my hard drive decided to crash and I lost over 9,000 songs! I can't recover them, and don't even own a cd anymore. I can't even bring myself to start downloading again because I don't even know where to start and it's going to take forever! Trying to find a silver lining in all this, I think i'd like to check out the whole SACD thing. Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably priced player and a good place to buy SACD's online? Thanks for the help.
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,318
    edited October 2010
    Crushing, I am also new to SACDs but my first batch is coming...this link tracks you through Amazon but I like the way the library is set up.
    http://www.sa-cd.net/

    Several of us jumped all over this deal
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107571&highlight=pioneer+sacd

    Good Luck
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited October 2010
    Have you checked to see how much it would cost to have your music recovered? Many companies offer recovery from crashed drives.
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited October 2010
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    Have you checked to see how much it would cost to have your music recovered? Many companies offer recovery from crashed drives.

    I called one company here but they wanted $450 regardless of whether they could recover it or not! The guy at the apple store said it'd be a longshot and expensive to try, so I figured instead of risk it i'd spend it on a SACD player and some essentials.

    Txcoastal1 thanks for the links!
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited October 2010
    B Run wrote: »
    I called one company here but they wanted $450 regardless of whether they could recover it or not! The guy at the apple store said it'd be a longshot and expensive to try, so I figured instead of risk it i'd spend it on a SACD player and some essentials.

    Txcoastal1 thanks for the links!

    Look into this: http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited October 2010
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    Look into this: http://www.grc.com/spinrite.htm

    Unless I missed something that won't be compatible with a mac though will it?
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited October 2010
    B Run wrote: »
    Unless I missed something that won't be compatible with a mac though will it?

    If you have a PC with a compatible drive/connection (IDE, SATA), apparently you can pull the drive from the Mac and recover it using the PC. I don't know much more about it than that, but I've read various postings and articles over the years that say this is a good product.
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited October 2010
    Here you go... (Google is your friend) :)

    http://blog.iharder.net/2010/07/29/spinrite-run-spinrite-on-a-mac/
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited October 2010
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    Here you go... (Google is your friend) :)

    http://blog.iharder.net/2010/07/29/spinrite-run-spinrite-on-a-mac/

    Thanks for the info, i'll definitely look into it.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited October 2010
    Portable USB drives or monthly fee offsite services are mandatory once you decide leave vinyl and discs behind.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2010
    that sucks. i lost all of mine when my Ex and i split up. she jacked my CDs and most of my DVDs plus other things
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited October 2010
    inspiredsports wrote: »
    Portable USB drives or monthly fee offsite services are mandatory once you decide leave vinyl and discs behind.

    I'll definitely be getting an external hard drive next time.


    Sorry to hear that Mole', I know that one had to hurt. At least I never have to worry about that with my wife, she has HORRIBLE taste in music haha.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited October 2010
    Sorry to hear that...that's gotta be terrible.

    This is one of the reasons that I'll never really embrace downloading on any kind of bigger scale. My CD collection never leaves my house, so I know I don't have to worry about ever losing my collection. For that matter, all of my CD's even stay in their original cases.;)

    I've got a large binder full of burnt copies of a couple hundred of my CD's as well, which is kept in my car.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited October 2010
    I'm sorry, but you decided to go "all digital" with your music collection, and didn't back it up AT ALL? Dear everyone : all hard drives EVENTUALLY die. It's a really fast spinning platter, it's GOING TO DIE. The only question is when. Unless you're one of the old farts on the board, you will outlive your hard drive, BACK UP REGULARLY. Jesus.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited October 2010
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    My CD collection never leaves my house, so I know I don't have to worry about ever losing my collection.

    Burglar alert! Burglar alert! Attention all burglars! Non-backed up CDs! Ready for the taking! ;)
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  • fishbones
    fishbones Posts: 947
    edited October 2010
    I learned my lesson the hard way too a few years back when a hard drive crashed on me. Lost everything. Never again. After that I bought an external hard drive that I just plug-in every couple weeks and it automatically downloads all the new files. Poof...will never loose anything as long as I keep it up to date. Very easy.
    ..... ><////(*>
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited October 2010
    There is a Pioneer dv47ai for sale in the Flea Market for very little money it is a very nice player. Check out CSTMAR ad for it.

    Computer audio stinks.

    RT1
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited October 2010
    B Run wrote: »
    So a year or 2 ago I had my truck broken into and lost about 250 cd's, which was not a big deal because they were all saved on my computer. Since then I haven't bought a cd and just got all my music online. A few days ago my hard drive decided to crash and I lost over 9,000 songs! I can't recover them, and don't even own a cd anymore. I can't even bring myself to start downloading again because I don't even know where to start and it's going to take forever! Trying to find a silver lining in all this, I think i'd like to check out the whole SACD thing. Does anyone have any recommendations for a reasonably priced player and a good place to buy SACD's online? Thanks for the help.

    Just a few suggestions that might work but the probabilities are low and there wasn't enough information in your thread. I gather this is a Mac which is outside my field of expertise but...

    1. Sometimes, the damage is just enough to prevent the O/S from starting. You may have a limited opportunity to remove the drive, place it in an external enclosure, and attempt to retrieve your music from another computer. Work quickly. Don't stand there and dance around if it comes up. The window can be quite small.

    2. Try varying the position of the drive (once it's in the external enclosure) if the normal position doesn't get you anywhere. Sometimes, having it sit on its side works. For laptops (the small 3.5" drives), I've had luck with putting the drive upside down. Work quickly.

    3. I've had no luck putting the drive in the freezer for a few hours. I've read about this trick but never once has it worked for me but I've only tried it as a last resort.

    4. Most of the time, you're just screwed.

    YMMV. Good luck.


    *** I forgot to mention. If these are DRM songs from the iTune store, you might be screwed already. I'm not sure but I think you have to have iTunes running from the original system in order to authorize another pc before moving the music. Does that sound correct? If so, the O/S has to be up and running which means removing the drive and attaching it to another pc might be useless. I could be wrong and perhaps you can authorize another pc with your iTune account and Apple will allow you to download what you bought again but 9,000 songs would suck. Maybe you can re-authorize the songs after they're recovered? I just don't know enough about it.
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  • mewisemagic
    mewisemagic Posts: 194
    edited October 2010
    a shot in the dark,but get the model number of the drive and do a google search for problems with it and you might come across a "fix" for it. my seagate crased and i found a work around for it and it's still running today
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited October 2010
    What do you mean by 'crashed'? People use that term to describe anything and everything. Is the drive physically broken? if not, recovery is usually simple. There are tons of software solutions for this. I don't like spinrite because it is slow and, if it is still how it was when I used it, dos based.

    Usually when you think you've lost everything on your hard drive, the partition simply got screwed up. All your files are still there, you just can't access them the normal way. In order for your data to be gone, it has to be physically written over. You can rebuild the partition, but I usually copy the files off to another drive, run a hard drive scan to make sure the drive is ok (www.hddscan.com), and then decide whether or not I will use the drive again. Usually, I find that the drive is operating poorly, and I trash it.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited October 2010
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Burglar alert! Burglar alert! Attention all burglars! Non-backed up CDs! Ready for the taking! ;)

    Well, really they are all backed up. Probably 3/4 of my CD collection has been ripped to my computer in lossless format.

    Not that I worry about anyone breaking into my house too much...but in the event that someone does, I've got an 80 pound Pit Bull security system.;)
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  • messiah
    messiah Posts: 1,790
    edited October 2010
    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    Well, really they are all backed up. Probably 3/4 of my CD collection has been ripped to my computer in lossless format.

    Not that I worry about anyone breaking into my house too much...but in the event that someone does, I've got an 80 pound Pit Bull security system.;)

    I'll make sure to bring him a nice ribeye steak or 2 :p
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited October 2010
    Thanks everyone for all the help and suggestions. The first thing i'm buying is a huge stand alone hard drive, and yes I definitely should have known better. I found another place in town that thinks they can recover it and if they can't it's free, unfortunately if they can it's $650 and honestly as much as i'd like it all back I could put that towards my system and just download the essentials online. I purchased some from itunes but most were ripped cd's and downloads. I'm leaning on putting that towards a nice sacd player, as many used sacd's or cd's as i can find and a nice hard drive to store everything on.
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  • xj4094dg
    xj4094dg Posts: 1,158
    edited October 2010
    When you replace your drive/computer or whatever you decide, get a 1TB internal drive and subscribe to Carbonite. ( http://www.carbonite.com ) .

    This inexpensive service automatically backs up all the data of your internal drive whenever an internet connection is present. I back up to an external drive as well and make sure its off-site in case of fire/burglary/random pissed-off female or whatever.

    BACK UP and be happy!

    SACD's are awesome, but not cheap.

    Good luck.
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  • B Run
    B Run Posts: 1,888
    edited October 2010
    xj4094dg wrote: »
    When you replace your drive/computer or whatever you decide, get a 1TB internal drive and subscribe to Carbonite. ( http://www.carbonite.com ) .

    This inexpensive service automatically backs up all the data of your internal drive whenever an internet connection is present. I back up to an external drive as well and make sure its off-site in case of fire/burglary/random pissed-off female or whatever.

    BACK UP and be happy!

    SACD's are awesome, but not cheap.

    Good luck.

    I found a nice 1TB drive for a good price, appreciate the heads up.
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  • Topper
    Topper Posts: 403
    edited October 2010
    this will make sure you never have that prob again and no worries about backing things up yourself - www.dropbox.com
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited October 2010
    This is why I not only buy cd's but my ripped collection is all backed up not once but twice on two different external drives.
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited October 2010
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    If you have a PC with a compatible drive/connection (IDE, SATA), apparently you can pull the drive from the Mac and recover it using the PC. I don't know much more about it than that, but I've read various postings and articles over the years that say this is a good product.

    Windows does not recognize linux partions so no it will not work.
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  • ecod123
    ecod123 Posts: 379
    edited October 2010
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Crushing, I am also new to SACDs but my first batch is coming...this link tracks you through Amazon but I like the way the library is set up.
    http://www.sa-cd.net/

    txcoastal1, thanks for the great link. Recently bought 3 SACD's off fleabay to play on my Oppo. Awesome sound. Will definitely be adding more to the collection, so the link will be most helpful.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited October 2010
    bigaudiofanatic wrote: »
    Windows does not recognize linux partions so no it will not work.

    What? Yes it does. You might need a driver, but Windows is certainly capable of reading Linux partitions.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • coolsax
    coolsax Posts: 1,824
    edited October 2010
    That sucks man...
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