Best way to get more deep bass that you can feel

Trenchant
Trenchant Posts: 28
edited October 2010 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
I've got a pretty big setup for the bedroom that its in(in the basement with concrete walls on 3 sides). It doesn't really have the deep bass I'm looking for and I'm wondering what the best way to get that is?

Pioneer 5.1 Receiver(nothing special, will be upgrading soon to get pre-outs)
Monitor 70's
CS2 Centre
Monitor 30 rears
Micro Pro 3000
PSW10

I was thinking about building a custom subwoofer to replace the cheap psw10. Something along the lines of an 18" sub... What do you guys recommend?

The system sounds awesome by the way. Nice clean bass. But want a bit more of a boom that you can feel when something explodes for example in a movie. It is on my shortlist to amplify the monitor 70's as well.
Towers: Monitor 70's
Center: CS2
Rears: Monitor 30's
Sub: MicroPro 3000
Receiver: Pioneer VSX-D409
Screen: Samsung 42" 720p
All in a 12x12 bedroom...
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  • cnoat
    cnoat Posts: 315
    edited October 2010
    I have never built or heard a custom sub.I have heard all SVS's and they slam pretty hard.Alot of the members here like epik's as well.
    Polk 505 is a great sub for the money.They can be had pretty cheap now days.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2010
    EPIK Sub

    http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/products.html
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  • Trenchant
    Trenchant Posts: 28
    edited October 2010
    How would the 505 compare with my micropro 3000? I'm guessing it would still be in the same general ball park as far as the bass it produces. I'm looking for something thats really loud when I crank it up.

    I am in Canada so shipping is a major consideration. Whats the going rate for one of those epik subs? On their website it lists 799 for the Empire. Thats pushing a budget already without shipping.

    I was thinking a 15" Kicker L7 in a 1" MDF box with a 1000w rms plate amplifier.

    Do the epiks hit really low?
    Towers: Monitor 70's
    Center: CS2
    Rears: Monitor 30's
    Sub: MicroPro 3000
    Receiver: Pioneer VSX-D409
    Screen: Samsung 42" 720p
    All in a 12x12 bedroom...
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  • Polkie2009
    Polkie2009 Posts: 3,834
    edited October 2010
    If your system is in a 12'x12' room, I'd say a Epik Empire or a nice SVS should give you plenty of quality bass:)
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,151
    edited October 2010
    Just add another subwoofer with a splitter. I did it and I'm more than pleased.

    I've heard the Polk 505 is great to.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited October 2010
    Nearly anything but the psw10 will provide more bass for you. Not knocking your system by any means because that's almost exactly what I started with. Get a different sub that your budget allows and you will never look back.

    To this day, the psw10 has been my most disappointing audio purchase I have ever made.
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited October 2010
    Thinking one of your biggest problem is the cement basement floor, your not getting any tactile vibration feedback, you know, your not feeling the lower bass note vibrate the floor.

    I would try a bass shaker or two in the sofa with a cheap amp and see if that helps.

    Just a guess of mine as I am in the basement too.


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  • Trenchant
    Trenchant Posts: 28
    edited October 2010
    I threw the psw10 in there just for **** and giggles. I had it listed for sale and no one wanted it. I'm using both right now.

    Whats the best thing to look for in getting the deep bass if I can't pickup an Epik Empire? I'm guessing I'm looking for something that hits in the 15hz range?

    Where do you guys usually pick up Epik subs? I couldn't find any on ebay. Straight from Epik? How are the Epik Phoenix's? They're sold out so it doesn't list the price but they're still an 18" woofer.
    Towers: Monitor 70's
    Center: CS2
    Rears: Monitor 30's
    Sub: MicroPro 3000
    Receiver: Pioneer VSX-D409
    Screen: Samsung 42" 720p
    All in a 12x12 bedroom...
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  • hoosier21
    hoosier21 Posts: 4,411
    edited October 2010
    Epik is factory direct only
    Dodd - Battery Preamp
    Monarchy Audio SE100 Delux - mono power amps
    Sony DVP-NS999ES - SACD player
    ADS 1230 - Polk SDA 2B
    DIY Stereo Subwoofer towers w/(4) 12 drivers each
    Crown K1 - Subwoofer amp
    Outlaw ICBM - crossover
    Beringher BFD - sub eq

    Where is the remote? Where is the $%#$% remote!

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited October 2010
    Trenchant wrote: »
    How are the Epik Phoenix's? They're sold out so it doesn't list the price but they're still an 18" woofer.

    Epik retooled their lineup last year. The Empire and Legend are the only two subs they have out right now.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2010
    Trenchant wrote: »
    How would the 505 compare with my micropro 3000? I'm guessing it would still be in the same general ball park as far as the bass it produces. I'm looking for something thats really loud when I crank it up.

    I am in Canada so shipping is a major consideration. Whats the going rate for one of those epik subs? On their website it lists 799 for the Empire. Thats pushing a budget already without shipping.

    I was thinking a 15" Kicker L7 in a 1" MDF box with a 1000w rms plate amplifier.

    Do the epiks hit really low?

    the Epik subs hit realllllllly looooooow.

    did i say really low?

    the new Epik Legend will be out soon. its Dual 12" subs. i think it will be $499

    i made a thread about it a few days ago
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited October 2010
    epik empires or polk dsw micro pro's
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    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited October 2010
    If I have not spent so much money this last two weeks on audio equipment this would no longer be available.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Sunfire-Carver-MK-II-Powered-True-Subwoofer-/260677126411?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item3cb191490b
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  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited October 2010
    if you want to feel the bass. get a Butkicker. it provides the "feel" that no other sub can do.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2010
    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-388&utm_source=Parts-Express&utm_medium=Flash+Panel&utm_content=300-388_greatshakes+10-06-2010&utm_campaign=Home+Page+Flash+Panel
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  • K-daugh
    K-daugh Posts: 467
    edited October 2010
    Face wrote: »
    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-388&utm_source=Parts-Express&utm_medium=Flash+Panel&utm_content=300-388_greatshakes+10-06-2010&utm_campaign=Home+Page+Flash+Panel

    wow those are MINT......where would you power them from?????could you power them through your sub via high level speaker output???just a thought or the receiver but i am using all of the channels
    Budget 5.1 H.T. Set Up
    HK avr 247 - Adcom GFA-7605:mrgreen::mrgreen: - Belkin PF60 Power Conditioner - Cs2 center channel - Monitor 60's fronts - Monitor 30's rears
    Mirage Bps 150i powered sub - 40"Samsung LCD ln40c530 - Sony Blu Ray Player BDP-S370 - Comcast digital hd box(motorola dcx3400)
    Monoprice Premium Interconnects Monoprice Ultra Slim HDMI w/Redmere:mrgreen: -Knukonceptz Kord 10 Gauge Speaker Wire - Nakamichi Banana Plugs
    Custom Jumpers
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