losing or finding a wallet

Tony M
Tony M Posts: 11,144
edited September 2010 in The Clubhouse
I want to know if somebody found your wallet, full of credit cards, 160.00 cash, and drivers license to of coarse and you get it back before lunch is over, what's your gratitude level?

Would you give them a reward if they made an effort to find you and return it intact within 1hr. of loosing it?

Would you think they did the right thing and ask if they could bring it to where your eating lunch so as not to trouble you after your meal?

Would you offer a reward? I would've.

Would you say thank you when you have it handed to you and turn away and go about your life?

I like doing the right thing (karma) but is gratitude a thing of minor importance in todays world? This ungratefulness and it happened once before when I found a blackberry, they wanted me to bring it to them a few miles up the road after my wife researched the numbers and called the one that said mom. Mom got ahold of her daughter through some way and then the call. Great, can you bring it to me?
No, you can come get it. Well, I'll send a friend. the friend showed up and said who has the phone? My wife said she did. He reached out and took it and turned around and left. NO thankyou at all.
Found a laptop and returned it to a company. No thankyou.

I thinking the next thing I find, I might cash it in if my wife is not around. Of coarse I'd get the cards and license and stuff back through some channel but the cash, I don't know anymore.

I've heard of people returning thousands of dollars and their reward was like 20.00.
Come on world....

Do you think people doing the right thing should be rewarded in some cases?
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited September 2010
    IMO...The right thing to do is the right thing...regardless of the response.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,597
    edited September 2010
    Karma man - karma.

    People suck. Do the right thing because you want to - not for whats in return.

    Shrug it off. One day someone will find their wallet and go to town with it.
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited September 2010
    Karma man - karma.

    People suck. Do the right thing because you want to - not for whats in return.

    Shrug it off. One day someone will find their wallet and go to town with it.

    I've returned a wallet, iPod, etc. before.

    They all said "Thanks".
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,597
    edited September 2010
    Ok.... and how does that make you feel??? or is that a matter of fact?
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,212
    edited September 2010
    About 4 years ago I found a ladys wallet on top of a gas pump on thanksgiving day when me and my wife stop to put gas in the car on our way to her mothers house. I left my name and # with the attendent inside. When we got to her moms I went through the wallet looking for a # to call. The wallet had about $100 and full of credit cards.. I found her buisness card and gave her a call she was at home had no idea yet that her wallet was gone. She came and picked it up turned and left not even a thank you nothing at all.. Now I didn't want money from her, I have a job and can take care of myself but a thank you would have been nice. I even offered to take it to her. So I understand what you mean but you still did the right thing.

    But the lady was still a **** IMO!!
  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,195
    edited September 2010
    After they turn to leave without saying thank you, I'd just say to them, "You're welcome."
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited September 2010
    Hm. I've lost a lot of things in my time... it's a real bad habit of mine. Nothing I have lost has ever been returned. These days, if you have an expensive phone, expensive sunglasses, or cash in your wallet the likelihood of it being returned is low.

    That being said, I have returned things and everyone's been pretty happy. I find car keys, phones, wallets, purses, ect... I don't expect a reward. If they have to call me or whatever, or somehow locate me to give me my stuff back, I think a reward is just.

    I won't, however, return things to people who I know are ****/****.

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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    After they turn to leave without saying thank you, I'd just say to them, "You're welcome."

    I do that alot also when I hold doors for people and they just walk through like I'm supposed to be their door holder. My wife hates it when I say it.

    We're glad we did the right thing.
    I just talked to a friend who said he would've been 160.00 richer if he had found it.:p
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited September 2010
    I do that alot also when I hold doors for people and they just walk through like I'm supposed to be their door holder. My wife hates it when I do it.

    Well, that's different. If your hands are full carrying 2 bags, a suitcase, and a laptop, I would assume that the person in front of you doesn't mind holding the door for 2 more seconds.

    At CES I remember this was a common scenario going from the airport --> bus --> hotel --> Las Vegas Convention Center. Almost everybody held the door for someone else.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    Well, that's different. If your hands are full carrying 2 bags, a suitcase, and a laptop, I would assume that the person in front of you doesn't mind holding the door for 2 more seconds.

    At CES I remember this was a common scenario going from the airport --> bus --> hotel --> Las Vegas Convention Center. Almost everybody held the door for someone else.

    I didn't say these people were carring anything, except maybe a simple little brain that can't say two little words. Thank you.
    Now maybe one or two is mute, then a nod would be done in its place but no nods.
    .
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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited September 2010
    Whoops. I misread your post.

    That's just the first thing that came to mind when I thought about "holding doors."
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    That's cool. If their hands are full, no problem here.

    I was at a check out and doing the money transaction while to my left (15ft. away) a man in a wheel chair was trying to get in the door. There was a man 5 ft from the door and did nothing to help out. NOTHING. I almost told that man he was a worthless piece of s%*# as I got to the entrance after my checkout.
    People behind me in line (3 of them) did not step out and walk 15 ft. to help out either. By the time I got to him, he had just wrestled the door open and got in.These doors don't swing open easy at all. Even I have to exert effort to pull one open. That was wed. I think, and maybe these events are compounding with other ones like Joes' mugging that's getting on my nerves lately.:mad:

    Sorry for another rant...
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited September 2010
    I look at it like doing any other kind thing whether it be helping someone with a flat tire holding the door open for another, donating money to charity or any number of other things. It is the right thing to do, it makes "ME" feel good knowing I did what I know to be the right thing.

    After I do any of these things the responsbility is off me and on the other person to do the right thing which is to be grateful and show their appreciation, if they dont then well it is on them and whatever comes their way in the form of Karma because of it.

    Either way I feel good knowing I did the right thing :)

    Yea I know most people are selfish uncaring callous self asorbed asshats who feel the world owes them something but I dont have to be that way because of their actions.

    I remember once when I was a kid I had been on a Greyhound bus for days without much sleep and the bus had stooped at a roadside cafe for breakfast so I got up went inside ate breakfast, went to pay and reached for my wallet and it wasnt there. I thought oh crap it must have fallen out when I was in the bus.

    Well this wallet was a beautiful brightly beaded wallet that really stood out due to the colors, you coud have seen it a quarter mile away. I went back to the bus to look knowing full well that the odds of finding it would be next to nothing, I reached the seat where I had been sitting and there it was laying almost exactly in the center of the seat, well I thought its most likely empty then because people had gotten off ahead of me and behind me and it being as brightly colered as it was would be virtually impossible not to see for anyone getting off behind me, but not one cent was missing and I had a little over 3k in cash in it so I guess the moral of this story is do the right thing and sometimes you will be paid off in unexpected ways.

    Who knows how it will come back to you, it could be ib the form of missing the flight that crashed with no survivors or being 5 minutes late for work and avoding the deadly fog that kills 35 others.



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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    You were paid forward in a since. That is great.

    I believe in the golden rule to. Always have ;).
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  • ESavinon
    ESavinon Posts: 3,066
    edited September 2010
    I'd return it 3 weeks later completely intact.:D









    J/k of course. :D

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  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited September 2010
    ESavinon wrote: »
    I'd return it 3 weeks later completely intact.:D

    That's hilarious...
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    Integrity,

    Great word to describe what we did today.

    Thank you.

    They need to teach that word in school along with ; excuse me, pardon me, and thank you...;-)
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,808
    edited September 2010
    shack wrote: »
    IMO...The right thing to do is the right thing...regardless of the response.

    DING!

    If you're doing the right thing in anticipation of anything other than the fact that it was the right thing to do then you're likely doing it for the wrong reasons anyway.


    To answer the OP's question, if I found a wallet with identifying info, I'd return it, untouched. It's not mine to begin with and I know I would want my wallet returned in the same condition.

    If I find a $20 on the floor and no one is around, finder's keepers.

    If I lost my wallet and it had cash in it and it was there when I got it back, I'd give the person who returned it whatever cash was in there.
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited September 2010
    Any time I've found someone's card's wallet ect I will do what I think I should do and try to get to the person right away to give it back, ect.

    I would never expect anything in return for doing the right thing.

    Biggest one I've ever found was when diving as a lifeguard for a lost wedding ring finding a bag with 5K in cash and 8 credit cards. I could easily have placed the stuff in my pocket as I was underwater at the time and not have turned it it, but once again, I have a conscience and couldn't do that, it would bug me until the day I die and just couldn't bring myself to take someone else money, regardless of the situation.
  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,601
    edited September 2010
    I once did a lot of metal detecting. Mainly for Civil War relics and old coins. Well several years ago I got permission to detect on a very old high school football field. While detecting around an area I thought would have been where the bleachers were. I got a strong hit, 3 inches deep i find a gold class ring from 1985. Long story short, going through year books for that high school I tracked the dude down. He lost that ring in 1991. He sent his wife to meet me to pick it up! She didn't say thanks or anything! :rolleyes:
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited September 2010
    Why are you feeling me out with these type of questions?
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    Jstas wrote: »
    DING!

    If you're doing the right thing in anticipation of anything other than the fact that it was the right thing to do then you're likely doing it for the wrong reasons anyway.


    To answer the OP's question, if I found a wallet with identifying info, I'd return it, untouched. It's not mine to begin with and I know I would want my wallet returned in the same condition.

    If I find a $20 on the floor and no one is around, finder's keepers.

    If I lost my wallet and it had cash in it and it was there when I got it back, I'd give the person who returned it whatever cash was in there.

    We've gone to bed knowing we did good. I just got back up to get a sip of diet pepsi.

    Your reward equals your gratitude I think. My friend said he'd give a third back. Me, 1/4 but if returned in an hour, maybe 1/3 or half also depending on the amount. I know getting any back would be a blessing but sometimes a thousand would be kind of hard for me to give away .I know it was gone when I lost it per say, but to get it back and give it away is a really though thing for me to grasp even though it seems to be the right thing to offer as the reward if that's what I lost to begin with.
    Something to ponder...
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    Why are you feeling me out with these type of questions?

    I don't understand George.
    ??
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,808
    edited September 2010
    We've gone to bed knowing we did good. I just got back up to get a sip of diet pepsi.

    Your reward equals your gratitude I think. My friend said he'd give a third back. Me, 1/4 but if returned in an hour, maybe 1/3 or half also depending on the amount. I know getting any back would be a blessing but sometimes a thousand would be kind of hard for me to give away .I know it was gone when I lost it per say, but to get it back and give it away is a really though thing for me to grasp even though it seems to be the right thing to offer as the reward if that's what I lost to begin with.
    Something to ponder...

    It's not the money. See, I don't hang around with people who would keep the money. They're not the people I want around me. If a person handed me my wallet back and I actually had cash in it, I would give whatever was in it to that person. Not as a thank you. That's what me saying "Thank you!" would be for. I would give the person the money because their character is strong and they did the right thing. Even if they had an expectation of reward, they still did the right thing and that takes a certain amount of intestinal fortitude that I think should be recognized and rewarded.

    Now, I don't carry cash in my wallet. My uncle told me when I was young, don't keep cash in your wallet. If you get your wallet ripped off or lost, you still have cash in your pocket. If you get your cash lost of ripped off, you still have your wallet. Either way, you aren't left with nothing. I also keep my wallet in a different pocket than my cash. But even if I had a wallet returned and there was no cash in the wallet, I would give them whatever was in my pocket.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    halo71 wrote: »
    I once did a lot of metal detecting. Mainly for Civil War relics and old coins. Well several years ago I got permission to detect on a very old high school football field. While detecting around an area I thought would have been where the bleachers were. I got a strong hit, 3 inches deep i find a gold class ring from 1985. Long story short, going through year books for that high school I tracked the dude down. He lost that ring in 1991. He sent his wife to meet me to pick it up! She didn't say thanks or anything! :rolleyes:
    Sorry to here the above. just like today.:(

    Here's just the opposite;:D

    My wife tracked a guy down through calling a university about a class ring I found at Carolina Beach after a huricane tore the town up pretty good. I was delivering materials to rebuild a home and after stepping aroung my truck a few times I saw gold shining from where I had nicked it in the sand. I pulled it up and this ring was huge. It fit over my thumb with ease..lol.
    Well, someone at the university office my wife called, knew the brother of the name in the ring and within an hour or two the brother called us up and said his brother just lost it before the hurricane and thought he would surely never see it again because of Hurricane washout, washover, washout to sea......

    He said we can't imagine his brothers' sorrow when he returned home after his beach vacation with out his ring on his hand. He said the next person calling would be his brother and man was he joyful whenhe called. A few days later he drove 2 hrs. back here since we didn't want to rely on any shipping service and when he arrived (BIG GUY he was) we gave him the ring, talked about the site and how my wife researched to get it back to him. The hurricane damage around the area and what kind of people were we that we didn't have it melted for scrap $$.

    At the end he said thank you very, very much and then reached in his back pocket and handed us an envelope and said he wished he could've been more grateful than what was in there. No problem there since we just spent 15 min talking casualy and knowing he was really happy to get that back.He was glowing! He left and we opened the envelope and there was 50.00 and a letter.

    The letter of gratitude was so nice; I'm chocking up now thinking about it. My wife and I both cryed with humbleness and joy for getting that ring back to him. It was more than a ring, it was part of a family tradition since all his brothers and fathers' rings were from the same University and they do something at family gathering like click them to cheer or something.
    I saved that letter to remind me there are gratefull people out there somewhere.

    Picture LT Taylors' class ring.:eek:huge :D
    3oz. of 10K or 14K plus the huge stone. HUGE I tell ya. I'm glad I found it, and she researched to get it back to him!
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    Jstas wrote: »
    It's not the money. See, I don't hang around with people who would keep the money. They're not the people I want around me. If a person handed me my wallet back and I actually had cash in it, I would give whatever was in it to that person. Not as a thank you. That's what me saying "Thank you!" would be for. I would give the person the money because their character is strong and they did the right thing. Even if they had an expectation of reward, they still did the right thing and that takes a certain amount of intestinal fortitude that I think should be recognized and rewarded.

    Now, I don't carry cash in my wallet. My uncle told me when I was young, don't keep cash in your wallet. If you get your wallet ripped off or lost, you still have cash in your pocket. If you get your cash lost of ripped off, you still have your wallet. Either way, you aren't left with nothing. I also keep my wallet in a different pocket than my cash. But even if I had a wallet returned and there was no cash in the wallet, I would give them whatever was in my pocket.

    That's awsome again. rare soul I think.

    ^^^^
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    Jstas wrote: »
    DING!

    If you're doing the right thing in anticipation of anything other than the fact that it was the right thing to do then you're likely doing it for the wrong reasons anyway.


    To answer the OP's question, if I found a wallet with identifying info, I'd return it, untouched. It's not mine to begin with and I know I would want my wallet returned in the same condition.

    If I find a $20 on the floor and no one is around, finder's keepers.

    If I lost my wallet and it had cash in it and it was there when I got it back, I'd give the person who returned it whatever cash was in there.

    The anticipation was there for wonderful gratefulness but if it didn't materialize, we were not going to call names to their faces and we only pray they change their ways or else they will have karma's other side spin around for the next event. Gratefulness can be from the soul and expressed (that suites me fine!)or from cash to make the finder happy in some sort of way in return like a delicous meal out at a 40.00 tab for two restaraunt.

    We were blessed at a garden center a few years ago. Wife loses wallet in parking lot. We get home and notice, call the center, they have it.
    We get it and it's intact. 260.00 and a ton of cards and license. the person who turned it n left no name... We would've called and sent her 60.00 for her deed.Mabe a hundred, it was near christmas anyway.

    Another;
    I left my wallet at a bar with 700.00. I go home and say oh s^&t...call the bar. Some patron saw it and handed it to the bartender. they were just to busy to research at that time but said it would def. get back to me. Well it was late and we went back the next day and all was intact. I think I tipped them 40.00 for I was young at the time and really needed money.

    Another time late at night at a rest stop, I pulled my comb out to comb my hair and accidently pulled my wallett out. the wallet fell to the groung,220.00 and my lisence. No credit at that time..I was 21 I think. I thought I saw it behind me but something else cought my attention and I never looked back again.
    I never saw that money or wallet again.That was a weeks paycheck too,after tax takehome.Gone:(
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    The moral might be There are fricken HUMAN VULTURES WAITING TO TAKE ANY ADVANTAGE OF A SCENARIO THAT PRESENTS ITSELF THAT WILL ENHANCE THEIR OWN LIFE AND TO NOT GIVE MUCH THOUGHT TO THE RESULTS OF THIS ACT THAT MAY CAUSE DISTRESS OR HARDSHIP OR EVEN STARVATION TO THER VICTUM.

    The less of these vulture humans the better.

    I just wached " law abiding citizen" this morn. and afternoon. My kind of of justice revenge style!!! I'm going to look in the movie sec. for this now.
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  • BuckeyeTim
    BuckeyeTim Posts: 483
    edited September 2010
    I lost my wallet about 15yrs ago on a Christmas shopping trip. Lost it at the mall with $400+ in it.

    Got it back about a week later in the mail. The cash was gone but everything else was in tact.
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,144
    edited September 2010
    halo71 wrote: »
    I once did a lot of metal detecting. Mainly for Civil War relics and old coins. Well several years ago I got permission to detect on a very old high school football field. While detecting around an area I thought would have been where the bleachers were. I got a strong hit, 3 inches deep i find a gold class ring from 1985. Long story short, going through year books for that high school I tracked the dude down. He lost that ring in 1991. He sent his wife to meet me to pick it up! She didn't say thanks or anything! :rolleyes:

    What goes through their heads? I'm glad I can't feel anything close to not being grateful as most people seem to be.

    I'm glad there are special people here on this forum to help me keep the thought that honesty and morals are still alive elseware.;)
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