HTPC Streaming issues?

disneyjoe7

So when streaming anything, any video which moves quickly it jumps acting like a slow video card. Do I have something setup wrong?



Background.

Asus P7H55M pro motherboard, i3-530 cpu, 4g of mem, XFX Radeon 5670 1g video card. Some may say a bit overkill not sure.

PrazVT

Well my media server is a liquid cooled q9650, 8gb, gts 250 . So I do not think yours is overkill. Are you streaming over the LAN, or directly connected to the TV?

packetjones

I would also look at the network. Is it wired or wireless? Also is this HD content?

ryanjoachim

disneyjoe7 wrote: »

So when streaming anything, any video which moves quickly it jumps acting like a slow video card. Do I have something setup wrong?



Background.

Asus P7H55M pro motherboard, i3-530 cpu, 4g of mem, XFX Radeon 5670 1g video card. Some may say a bit overkill not sure.

That sounds to me like the video program you're using is offloading the decoding/playback of the content onto the CPU, which is much less capable of handling that type of load compared to your video card.

What video playback program are you using?

polktiger

Is this a new set-up? Wired or wireless?

Assuming this is new and you are now setting it up, it sounds more like what happens when you attempt to stream wirelessly with some devices/content.

I gave up trying wireless and pulled the wire at that cured my stutter/jumpy playback problems

disneyjoe7

I'm using a wired network with is 100g, but it's though a hub and a hub. So it's a DSL modem to a wrt54g wireless hub, all 4 wired ports are used. 1 goes to main computer, 2 goes to another computer which is hubed out to a computer, tivo, and network printer. Port 3 goes to a hub which supports a network printer, living room, and masterbed room ports. Port 4 goes to a VOIP device. The living room port is wired to a hub to go to Samsung ip stream blu-ray player, the Tivo which isn't used now, and the new HTPC.


The software for the video card is the Radeon software, and not the windows 7 software.

ryanjoachim

If the HTPC is wired, streaming shouldn't be an issue bandwidth-wise.

When you watch a movie, what program do you use? Windows Media Player? Something else?

polktiger

Try to bypass the hubs and connect straight to your router. Seems like hubs used to be a 10 megabit device. If it is running at 100 you should not be having bandwidth issues, but at 10 you may depending on the quality of the video stream being sent. With all those hubs and devices under the router, you may be losing some bandwidth all the connections.

Things like netflix and hulu stream pretty well becuase the video/sound quality is a little weak, or it is a compressed file.

Your video card and cpu are plenty beefy.

I failed to ask, but what is your source file. Is this a playback problem for a file on this PC, or is this PC streaming a file to another device in the house. (Or are you trying to watch netflix/internet video on this system. Depending on your DSL service, you may not have a fast enough connection. When I had "DSL Lite" it could barely watch netflix or espn 360.)

disneyjoe7

I try to wire back to the main wireless hub, and I report back. I'm using Windows Media Player, with a Hulu mod to using it in WMP.

cokewithvanilla

What kind of files are you streaming. Try shark007 codec pack --- media center should be a better experience when using a remote.

renowilliams

disneyjoe7 wrote: »

So when streaming anything, any video which moves quickly it jumps acting like a slow video card. Do I have something setup wrong?



Background.

Asus P7H55M pro motherboard, i3-530 cpu, 4g of mem, XFX Radeon 5670 1g video card. Some may say a bit overkill not sure.

This may help you.

http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=279&threadid=116888


Hope this was helpful

disneyjoe7

I have wired it direct to wireless hub, and issues have stoped. Read I can't do 3 hubs at 100g so will rewire the system to remove a hub before HTPC.


Reno do you think I should still check that stuff?

renowilliams

I would. I remember having to set video acceleration on my daughter's laptop as she was having issues watching video over my network and the net. It fixed it afterwards.

doctorcilantro

What filetype does this?

Test it in VLC. then Try MPC or J. River with your Directshow filters configured as is (auto).

You could use tools like Gspot or J. River to build a filter graph (right click on screen during playback in JRMC), then we can figure out if you need CCCP or Shark packs, or just manual install and config of a few things like Haali etc.

On my Nvidia ION machine I have CoreAVC installed and set to use CUDA vid. acceleration; you can see this machine is configured differently. I'll copy the filter info after the image - just to give you an idea of how you can troubleshoot - mainly you can just check what filters/codecs/renderer is used and then play with changing what each container (format) uses until you find something that performs best:



Filter Graph Info:

Filter 'J. River Audio Renderer'
CLSID: {A4002F8E-510F-442C-8AD3-F9C7B23FB394}
Host:
Input Pin 'In'
Connected to pin 'Out' of filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

Filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
CLSID: {FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}
Host: c:\windows\syswow64\evr.dll
Input Pin 'EVR Input0'
Connected to pin 'Out' of filter 'ffdshow Video Decoder'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
Input Pin 'EVR Input1'

Filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
CLSID: {0F40E1E5-4F79-4988-B1A9-CC98794E6B55}
Host: c:\program files (x86)\combined community codec pack\filters\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax
Output Pin 'Out'
Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'J. River Audio Renderer'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_PCM, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
Input Pin 'In'
Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'J. River Media Proxy Audio'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

Filter 'ffdshow Video Decoder'
CLSID: {04FE9017-F873-410E-871E-AB91661A4EF7}
Host: c:\program files (x86)\combined community codec pack\filters\ffdshow\ffdshow.ax
Input Pin 'In'
Connected to pin 'Output' of filter 'J. River Media Proxy Video'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
Output Pin 'Out'
Connected to pin 'EVR Input0' of filter 'Enhanced Video Renderer'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12, Format type FORMAT_VideoInfo2
Input Pin 'In Text'

Filter 'J. River Media Proxy Audio'
CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
Host:
Input Pin 'Input'
Connected to pin 'Audio' of filter 'Y:\xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.mkv'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx
Output Pin 'Output'
Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'ffdshow Audio Decoder'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

Filter 'J. River Media Proxy Video'
CLSID: {A4207487-E7D8-406B-9882-B66370DE2492}
Host:
Input Pin 'Input'
Connected to pin 'Video' of filter 'Y:\HDTV.x264-FoV.mkv'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
Output Pin 'Output'
Connected to pin 'In' of filter 'ffdshow Video Decoder'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO

Filter 'Y:\xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.mkv'
CLSID: {55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D}
Host: c:\program files (x86)\combined community codec pack\filters\haali\splitter.ax
Output Pin 'Video'
Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'J. River Media Proxy Video'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Video Sub type Unknown GUID Name: {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}, Format type FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO
Output Pin 'Audio'
Connected to pin 'Input' of filter 'J. River Media Proxy Audio'
Major type MEDIATYPE_Audio Sub type MEDIASUBTYPE_DOLBY_AC3, Format type FORMAT_WaveFormatEx

ryanjoachim

doctorcilantro wrote: »

What filetype does this?

Test it in VLC. then Try MPC or J. River with your Directshow filters configured as is (auto).

You could use tools like Gspot or J. River to build a filter graph (right click on screen during playback in JRMC), then we can figure out if you need CCCP or Shark packs, or just manual install and config of a few things like Haali etc.

On my Nvidia ION machine I have CoreAVC installed and set to use CUDA vid. acceleration; you can see this machine is configured differently. I'll copy the filter info after the image - just to give you an idea of how you can troubleshoot - mainly you can just check what filters/codecs/renderer is used and then play with changing what each container (format) uses until you find something that performs best:



Filter Graph Info:

...

I'm pretty sure you just blew his brain up. Unless you've had prior experience with MPC or VLC-type programs, this is going to seem like a wall of gibberish.

doctorcilantro

LOL. Well, hopefully after he has pieced his grey matter back together, he can use Google.

the filter graph is gibberish but the filters (just seeing what's loaded) are an important concept to avoid pulling your hair out when everyone sits down to enjoy something, and your system freaks.

doctorcilantro

I lot of people have lately been suggesting the Shark Codec pack and I do believe it has some form of diagnostic tools embedded which would prove very useful.

disneyjoe7

You guys are deep, and yes my head blow up.


All in all my network system was the problem, I never thought I would need more ports on my living room so I just added a hub. The issue was I had 3 hubs, the wireless hub, the main hub, the living hub. Too many, rewired it so the living port goes the the wireless hub missing the main hub.

PrazVT

Mine is a similar setup in my apt - except instead of hubs, I'm using inexpensive autosensing gigabit switches. In the living room: gigabit router (tv, squeezebox, receiver, dvr, switch #2 in bedroom) -> #1 switch (PS3, 360); switch #2 (2 PCs). The switches tend to isolate any non-gigabit devices so everything isn't dragged down to 100mbit.

I stream blu-ray rips / other movies via Tversity to the receiver -> ps3 w/o any issues.

I would say that if any of those hubs are 10mbit you may issues.