I thought it was a genteel sport!

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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,696
    edited September 2010
    Dang ...... I was kind of hoping maybe a 'rassling match broke out between Ashley Harkelroad and Anna Kournikova ........ hair pulling and tickling and .....


    ..... that was still cool, though. A fight at the U.S. Open !
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2010
    Old man shouldn't have thought he could do something. He's the only one hurt an he started it. He definitely doesn't look like he's rocking a "I'm a mother f***er" shirt.

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  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited September 2010
    Toxis wrote: »
    He's the only one hurt an he started it.


    Actually its the daughter who truely escalates it beyond just a small verbal squable , what you dont see in the original video linked above is what the lady did to him to get him really mouthing off to her , she gives him a hard slap to the face.

    This new video shows the epic slap , check out the smile on his face right after she nails him :p







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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2010
    damn, son. that's why you keep your hair short. so old **** men can't pull you by it and slug ya.

    eh, watched it again, he didn't slug the kid. he did some sort of head vice with his hands or something. you know that old man takes his geritol.

    i'd say the youngin' kept his cool. i mean, what do you do in that situation? slap a woman? she deserves it seemingly. knock an old man out? he came 'a chargin'. i'd say the youngin' kept his cool pretty well.

    read the youtube posts. funny as hell.

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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited September 2010
    One thing I vowed never to do again is read the comments on a Youtube video.

    http://xkcd.com/202/
    http://xkcd.com/481/

    That kid was obviously a dick, whether he was technically at fault or not. Just seeing his face I wanted to punch him.
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited September 2010
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    One thing I vowed never to do again is read the comments on a Youtube video.

    http://xkcd.com/202/
    http://xkcd.com/481/

    That kid was obviously a dick, whether he was technically at fault or not. Just seeing his face I wanted to punch him.

    +1
    What we don't know is why the woman got in his face to begin with. Maybe she was an a$$ or maybe he was. But I was brought up different I guess. Young man vs older woman, and an evan older man. Someone should have knocked the punk on his a$$ before the woman ever had to slap him. Evan if the woman was 100% the instigator, the young guy was just way out of line IMHO.
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited September 2010
    wow, lots of lessons learned in that fiasco

    1) YOUNG SQUIRES - Don't act like an @ss at a sporting event, particularly a more refined one where that is not as tolerated a say a football game, notice that despite the kid's unusually level head after it got physical, the crowd was not on his side. I will site bringing a vuvuzela to a PGA golf match as an example, you're starting **** when you're doing that, trouble will follow

    2) TO OLD MEN - Guys, I know you were once young virile strapping young men and losing that status sucks @ss, but you have to accept your physical limitations.......and that includes starting physical conflict with men younger and stronger than you when they POSE NO PHYSICAL DANGER (that kid didn't at any time). The old man did what he did out of anger and hard assery only, and if he split his head open on the way down, I wouldn't have felt sorry for him one bit. One day I will be older and have to be wary of that fact and accept my limitations....this guys should have too.

    3) WOMEN - STOP HITTING GUYS, yes, many men will take a slap and eat it out of chivalry, many will not, and they hit ALOT harder than you. When a woman hits a man like in that video, they are counting on social rules on them not getting retaliated upon and getting very hurt. That social barrier breaks down, you are in a HEAP of trouble. Slap away if your getting attacked or in physical danger, not because you don't like what a guy says. I'm a 290 goon and I don't slap when people say things I don't like, IF I am wary of when I use violence, shouldn't you be too? think about that for a spell. That woman should be charged with assault with assault, 30 days in the clink will teach her a valuable lesson that could save her life someday.
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  • Face
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    edited September 2010
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited September 2010
    they started civil action? funny, wanna know why? the Kid's gonna win it hands down. Videos all back him up. you do not lose harassment cases for dropping F bombs at a sporting event, you do lose when you slap or choke someone.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited September 2010
    BIZILL wrote: »
    damn, son. that's why you keep your hair short. so old **** men can't pull you by it and slug ya.

    eh, watched it again, he didn't slug the kid. he did some sort of head vice with his hands or something. you know that old man takes his geritol.

    i'd say the youngin' kept his cool. i mean, what do you do in that situation? slap a woman? she deserves it seemingly. knock an old man out? he came 'a chargin'. i'd say the youngin' kept his cool pretty well.

    read the youtube posts. funny as hell.

    I agree.

    I don't know what happened for the situation to get to the point it did, but unless he hit her or the old man, those two had no reason to get physical with him. Instead of sitting there bitching, they should have gotten the Security.

    I'd sit there to and tell her to sit down and shut the f up if she was gettin' in my face, too.

    That's the problem with these videos, though -- they DON'T tell the whole story.
  • indyhawg
    indyhawg Posts: 1,641
    edited September 2010
    That lady should have slapped him a few more times.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited September 2010
    Yeah, that would have fixed everything. :rolleyes:
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2010
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    One thing I vowed never to do again is read the comments on a Youtube video.

    http://xkcd.com/202/
    http://xkcd.com/481/

    That kid was obviously a dick, whether he was technically at fault or not. Just seeing his face I wanted to punch him.

    Yeah at first I thought, "what a jag off, I wonder if he would mouth off like that if it wasn't a woman or an old timer," but then I saw the second vid that John posted and I think, although he should have tried to ignore her or get away from her, she did **** slap him and then the old timer went after him.

    Not so much a jag off now, at least in my book but still wrong IMO!

    Still all in all the whole incident was ridiculous and at a tennis game nonetheless! WAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited September 2010
    the kid mustve done something pretty stupid before hand as no one was on his side...
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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    There's a reason why everyone in the crowd who watched this happen wanted the kid thrown out. That doesn't mean he's guilty, just that there's more to this then we know.

    The old man didn't expect to 'win'. He was standing up. That's what people in his generation did. I liked what little I saw of him. He stayed out of the deal with the kid and the woman, until the end when she changed seats. That shows respect for the woman and smarts in the old man.

    I hope they were in the right, but who could know from the video? Legally the gal may get the judgement against her for the slap.

    I didn't like the kid very much. Yeah, he kept his cool- but he also couldn't leave the issue with the lady, just had to stand there and have fun. Telling her he could take twenty of those slaps was bizarre. You wouldn't tell a three year old that, it's not a comparison an adult would make.
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2010
    if the younger guy was drunk and acting loud and beligerant, then someone should have gotten security vs playing wanna-be hero. the crowd either hated the 27 year old because he was obscene OR because it's unchivilrous to get smart and lippy with a woman if you're a man.

    i wasn't there, but i'm sure the 27 yo was being a snide dick. sure. but it put no one in harm's way. then the woman and captain save-a-ho dad escalated it with violence. the only physical altercation from the 27 came out of self-defense.

    i wasn't there. i'm basing this by what little i saw on the video. like demi says, vids don't tell the whole truth. the types who sided with rodney king, where are you now? similar situations here. think about it.

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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    "...vids don't tell the whole truth. the types who sided with rodney king, where are you now? similar situations here. think about it" BIZILL

    That's right. When I worked at various hospitals staff would intervene if a patient became violent. No matter how well the takedown went, though, even with nobody getting hurt, onlookers often lodged complaints about staff brutality. And it wasn't just the visitors who were upset; nurses, technicians and doctors who did not have the training or experience could see things very differently. Sometimes even your eyes lie.

    I hope the lady doesn't get in too much trouble, but from just the video, the only thing known for certain is she slapped a man.

    May not be right, but there was a time in America when no man would think of charges or of sueing a woman if she'd slapped him.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2010
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    munk wrote: »
    There's a reason why everyone in the crowd who watched this happen wanted the kid thrown out. That doesn't mean he's guilty, just that there's more to this then we know.

    The old man didn't expect to 'win'. He was standing up. That's what people in his generation did. I liked what little I saw of him. He stayed out of the deal with the kid and the woman, until the end when she changed seats. That shows respect for the woman and smarts in the old man.

    I hope they were in the right, but who could know from the video? Legally the gal may get the judgement against her for the slap.

    I didn't like the kid very much. Yeah, he kept his cool- but he also couldn't leave the issue with the lady, just had to stand there and have fun. Telling her he could take twenty of those slaps was bizarre. You wouldn't tell a three year old that, it's not a comparison an adult would make.

    I've been in similar situations a few times where someone was giving my wife a rash of ****. Luckily I emerged unscathed because some of those guys were young and quite large (but I always have an equalizer handy in my old age) ;) but then again she's a wild cat and scares the hell out of me sometimes, all 5' 1" of her!:eek::o

    Ya know that hot Italian/Gypsy blood, estrogen and all that! Boy when she looses her temper, me, my son, and the dog run and hide in the bathroom; I'm stone cold serious!:eek:;) LOOK OUT!
  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    I like people who get mad, throw a fit, yell and scream, and then all is forgiven. I know when it's over it's over, no resentments or lingering issues. This is much easier than the people who don't blow up, but won't talk to you for a week. And the explosive people usually live longer than the people who stuff it all inside.


    ...Now, I don't mean the folks who get mad, throw a fit, yell and scream and then break your legs.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2010
    munk wrote: »
    I like people who get mad, throw a fit, yell and scream, and then all is forgiven. I know when it's over it's over, no resentments or lingering issues. This is much easier than the people who don't blow up, but won't talk to you for a week. And the explosive people usually live longer than the people who stuff it all inside.


    ...Now, I don't mean the folks who get mad, throw a fit, yell and scream and then break your legs.

    LOL!

    You just described me (not the leg breaking) and my wife to a tee! I'm the one who gets mad, throws the fit, yells and screams and then lets it go.

    My wife on the other hand will let it fester, even if she does go off, and sometimes do the cold shoulder routine. . . geez I hate that, I would rather her hit me in the gut with a baseball bat than go through the cold shoulder routine. Passive/aggressive pisses me off too.:mad: Man that gets under my skin.
  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    I knew how to describe this as it is...

    My Home Life!


    Sometimes I think even They don't know why they give the cold shoulder. The cause is forgotten, and only your steady trespasses remain. This is when the poor boyfriend or husband must say he's sorry....For Something, Anything.

    My wife got cagey after a few years, though: "Do you even know WHY I'm mad?"
    "No, but I'm sorry."
    But in my old age, I finally stopped saying that. I go about my life and what do you know? There's a person trying to get in, that lady who was mad about something?
  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited September 2010
    In the second video it sounds like they are arguing over either the seats he was in or him being loud.

    The young kid states "I have money on this game and have a ticket, I wasn't talking during the points, I can say what I want, blah blah" and then it kinda goes from there and that was after she slapped him.
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited September 2010
    Unless you're a complete simpleton, you can stand up for your wife/girlfriend/some woman/friend without having to take a swing. If the person you're standing up to wants to take a swing at you, that's when you react in kind. Otherwise, you're the one who is going to get a hefty fine and possibly some jail time.

    I know at least 2 of us advocating that the woman and old man should have just gotten security could have handled that kid with ease in a physical confrontation, but that doesn't mean that's what you should do. You've got to pick your battles and some mouthy punk isn't worth sitting in jail for.

    Like it or not, the woman and old man are the only ones who deserve to be banned from the event for 2 years, fined and possibly jailed.
  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    He was dropping the F word all over the place, but some people couldn't order pancakes in a coffeeshop without that. I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me there is some speech which qualifies as 'assault'.
    I wonder if you can disturb the peace, or incite the crowd at a sporting event? There's gotta be a lawyer on Polk forum.

    We didn't hear what he said to her before she slaps him.

    I think that slap may cost her.

    The crowd was yelling for Security long before the gal slapped the kid. They wanted that kid out of there. You have to be out of control to have an entire bleacher section demanding you be thrown out.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2010
    Well if the kid had money on the game he was probably jumping up and down and screaming after the person he bet on got a point and then when the opponent got a point was probably bitching and cursing about it. . . sounds more like a football, basketball or baseball game where degenerate gamblers go nuts not a friggin tennis tournament.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2010
    munk wrote: »
    He was dropping the F word all over the place, but some people couldn't order pancakes in a coffeeshop without that. I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me there is some speech which qualifies as 'assault'.
    I wonder if you can disturb the peace, or incite the crowd at a sporting event? There's gotta be a lawyer on Polk forum.

    We didn't hear what he said to her before she slaps him.

    I think that slap may cost her.

    The crowd was yelling for Security long before the gal slapped the kid. They wanted that kid out of there. You have to be out of control to have an entire bleacher section demanding you be thrown out.

    I know a verbal threat in some states is considered assault. PA is one of them.
  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited September 2010
    We can't abjudicate this case from 'here' can we? Did you notice the kid's eyes? They didn't look right to me. I thought he might be on speed/meth.
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,773
    edited September 2010
    RolandND84 wrote: »
    nice video

    Reported.
  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited September 2010
    munk wrote: »
    We can't abjudicate this case from 'here' can we? Did you notice the kid's eyes? They didn't look right to me. I thought he might be on speed/meth.

    Well if you take into consideration that the kid was probably pumped up with his body's own adrenaline and epinephrine due to all the excitement, I can see where his eyes would not look right.
  • shadowofnight
    shadowofnight Posts: 2,735
    edited September 2010
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    Reported.


    Correct, this clown RolandND84 should be banned immediately....every post he has made has scripts running in the background.....

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