Well I was accused of.....

snow
snow Posts: 4,358
edited August 2010 in The Clubhouse
Well I was accused of..... attempted rape by someone who had asked for a pair of rare JBL drivers when I told him I wanted what the last pair sold for on Ebay he said I should sell them to him for at least 30% less than what that was because he was a member of this particular forum, had joined earlier this month and should get a special deal because of that.

I told him that most of the rare vintage JBL/Altec drivers are continuing to rise in price and very likely in 5 years or less they will be double what they are now and if I sold them for less than I would be a fool. Its not like I want to sell them, I thought I was doing him a favor by offering to sell them at all.

Oh well cant please everyone I guess :)



REGARDS SNOW
Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited August 2010
    Do you know a pair of JBL sold for 33K+? You can sell the driver you have for 30% less than the price sold. Just show him the link here.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130420422741

    Oh yeah, the price of that vintage JBL will only GO UP and UP like balloning or balony.

    Now, it makes me think being a Polkie must be SPECIAL. I want a Polkie badge made in pure copper just to make sure it will double duty as improving my system rig when put on my LSi speakers.

    Can anyone here make me a Polkie badge on a CNC machine and professionally anodized? Cost is no problem here. :D
    Trying out Different Audio Cables is a Religious Affair. You don't discuss it with anyone. :redface::biggrin:
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    megasat16 wrote: »
    Do you know a pair of JBL sold for 33K+? You can sell the driver you have for 30% less than the price sold. Just show him the link here.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130420422741

    Oh yeah, the price of that vintage JBL will only GO UP and UP like balloning or balony.

    Now, it makes me think being a Polkie must be SPECIAL. I want a Polkie badge made in pure copper just to make sure it will double duty as improving my system rig when put on my LSi speakers.

    Can anyone here make me a Polkie badge on a CNC machine and professionally anodized? Cost is no problem here. :D
    Some of the stuff is insanely priced in my oppinion but it continues to go up. I have a small collection of old JBL drivers horns etc some of them are extremely rare and perhaps someday when I get old enough to retire they will supplement my retirement. I just found it humorous that someone asks you for something that you dont want to part with and then they call you a rapist when you ask for the current value. Ive been called many things over the years but this is the first time for that :p

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    WTF makes him think he's so special? That's just wrong. :mad:

    With that kind of mentality, I wouldn't make them available to this individual at any price now.
    No worries he aint getting them :p



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    Can I have 'em for 50% off? I've been a polkie for 3+ years now. :D:p;)
    Sure anything for you, you island dreamboat :p:D:eek:



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited August 2010
    How much are they worth?
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    How much are they worth?
    Well the last pair of these went for over 3k but he felt that was way too much.

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,786
    edited August 2010
    I'll give ya fiddy cent.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    I'll give ya fiddy cent.
    Sold to the man in blue ;)

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,786
    edited August 2010
    Kool, but I'll have ta pay ya on time, 10 cent a week. ;)
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    Fair enuf :)

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited August 2010
    Rapist!?! Hmmmmm . . . I would like to meet this character. He obviously has had no experience with you or your reputation selling good stuff.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 18,067
    edited August 2010
    So do you have to register with local authority’s as an Audiophile now??:eek:
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,928
    edited August 2010
    The guy is a member of THIS forum??? Sounds like a good one for the IL if that's the case.
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited August 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    I'll give ya fiddy cent.

    I'll match that and raise you 5 cents more....just think of the possiblities!
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,039
    edited August 2010
    Well... I understand why the vintage Altec drivers and horns continue to appreciate - they sound good. The JBL's... not so much.

    [ducks and runs for cover]
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited August 2010
    I think its a rule somewhere, all polkies get 30% off everything. I know how you can annoy this guy, sell them to me for $300 shipped with paypal. That will teach him. ;)
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    cstmar01 wrote: »
    I'll match that and raise you 5 cents more....just think of the possiblities!
    Wow if the bidding increases I will be able to buy a soda soon ;)
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Well... I understand why the vintage Altec drivers and horns continue to appreciate - they sound good. The JBL's... not so much.

    [ducks and runs for cover]
    He He You do mean the Altec-Lansing branded ones correct? :D
    madmax wrote: »
    I think its a rule somewhere, all polkies get 30% off everything. I know how you can annoy this guy, sell them to me for $300 shipped with paypal. That will teach him. ;)
    Geez why didnt I think of that earlier :)

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,039
    edited August 2010
    snow wrote: »
    He He You do mean the Altec-Lansing branded ones correct? :D

    Umm, yeah... your 604 Duplexes, your 515 and 416 woofers, your 806, 288 compression drivers, your 811B, 511B, 1505 horns... stuff like that.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Umm, yeah... your 604 Duplexes, your 515 and 416 woofers, your 806, 288 compression drivers, your 811B, 511B, 1505 horns... stuff like that.
    Agreed. Altec made some very nice sounding drivers and so did JBL IMHO, of course like anything else people will always have favorite brands and models. There will always be the Pioneer versus Sansui versus Marantz versus Kenwood comparsions and I think that each company had some winners and some not :)

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,039
    edited August 2010
    Marky likes Altecs...

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    Not much of a JBL driver fan; too harsh for my delicate constitution... I do have these (275 compression drivers on Metregon horns); found 'em... well, you-know-where... last 4th of July :-)

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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    Nice find :)



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,039
    edited August 2010
    :-)

    in fairness... they actually sound pretty decent
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    :-)

    in fairness... they actually sound pretty decent
    Most of the JBL compression drivers dont bother me but those 035 titanium tweeters are awful IMHO shrill sounding as all get out.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,136
    edited August 2010
    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    Marky likes Altecs...

    604Etest.jpg
    604Etest2.jpg

    Not much of a JBL driver fan; too harsh for my delicate constitution... I do have these (275 compression drivers on Metregon horns); found 'em... well, you-know-where... last 4th of July :-)

    P1030535.jpg
    P1030536.jpg

    Wow you mad scientist you!:eek::D
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2010
    I've walked away on many offers, only to be called back...and others that happened the same way as you Snow. My areas so thick with audio that I don't even think twice anymore. Russman taught me almost every buying trick I know and they continue to work to this day.

    You're right, you can't satisfy everyone and some folks think what they have is worth a million dollars, some think that since they had so many phone calls...their price was now too low, blah blah. The only thing I do with Altec and JBL drivers? Sell them.

    Good job!
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
    edited August 2010
    Don't ya hate it when a forum "buddy" tries to stick you in the arse?
    It happened to me a couple of weeks ago and I just sent him elsewhere.
    "a pair just sold on "ebay" last week for...$****" LOL!
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 35,039
    edited August 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I've walked away on many offers, only to be called back...and others that happened the same way as you Snow. My areas so thick with audio that I don't even think twice anymore. Russman taught me almost every buying trick I know and they continue to work to this day.

    You're right, you can't satisfy everyone and some folks think what they have is worth a million dollars, some think that since they had so many phone calls...their price was now too low, blah blah. The only thing I do with Altec and JBL drivers? Sell them.

    Good job!

    Heck, next time I "need" something I'll PM you first!
    (but I shouldn't ask for the members discount, right?)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2010
    Of course :D
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,358
    edited August 2010
    HB27 wrote: »
    Don't ya hate it when a forum "buddy" tries to stick you in the arse?
    It happened to me a couple of weeks ago and I just sent him elsewhere.
    "a pair just sold on "ebay" last week for...$****" LOL!
    Well you can look at it like that both as the seller and buyer. On most items I sell here or at other forums they are priced at a discount off retail Ebay-audiogon prices but there are some items that for various reasons I dont want to sell at a discount or sell at all and if someone wants to purchase them they will have to pay the price that I want, some items I sell go directly to Ebay or Audiogon because of this and I dont want to upset anyone.

    Sometimes people feel a sense of entitlement and that because they know you as a friend or because you belong to the same public forum that not only do they deserve it but you owe them a special discount.

    I have had people tell me well I know you only paid x amount so you should sell this item/s to me for the same price, for example lets say I find a shoebox full of Mickey Mantle rookie cards in mint condition at a yard sale for $2.00 should I be required to sell them for $2.00 to you? knowing full well that if I do 9 times out of 10 that my buddy that bought them is going to re sell them at full retail and laugh all the way to the bank. Now who is getting raped?

    These particular drivers are not going down in value and even if I sold them at full retail today in a few years they will be worth twice that amount so in reality I am actually doing this person a favor by selling them at all.

    As a buyer I like to get what I consider a good deal on something sure and usally if it isnt a good deal I will pass but I dont expect anyone to give me one and if its something I really want or need odds are I will pay the price.

    Giving back to the community by selling something at a discount is something that is a kind thing to do but it shouldndt be something that you feel you are required to do and to feel like anyone owes you anything is IMHO wrong.

    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • munk
    munk Posts: 258
    edited August 2010
    I don't fully understand how anyone could say something like that to you. I mean, you can set any price, any, and that is your business. "Thank you very much but no" is the correct response to a price one is unwilling to pay.

    It's hard to figure someone stopping to toss out an insult. In the forum I've already seen some folks jumping to insults without much preamble. They don't seem to need to warm up first, or be provoked.

    I'm starting to form a mental picture of the worst characteristics of at least some equipment collectors.
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