SDA SRS 3.1TL's

TrashyTrucker

Hey all,
I almost feel like I dont even belong here with you guys with my "tiny" 3.1's!
just kidding... I love mine. They STILL work great and I still have the original SL3000 in each speaker (well actually they are the second pair) I fried the first...guess my polyswitches didnt work (So as a precaution: POLK told me then to add 1amp fast acting fuse on the new set. That was 1995. Is that ok to leave the fuses alone and leave them intact? I think I would sleep better...LOL
I ordered the new RD0198-1's from polk yesterday
the tech said: I dont need to change anything except drop them in. Is this also right?
I do understand the process and fundimentals of upgrades and I CAN READ, however I have searched this site for anything on my speakers and to no avail, nothing shows up. And also since this is my FIRST official post, can anyone show me mercy and point me into the further directions as what things nexzt should I ponder or do next?
I have NO schematics on the 3.1TL's. However I do have a manual I found online.
So any help at all would be nice to have right now.
Thanks,


Matt

fishbones

Schematic...scroll down to you see your model:

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55888

As far as upgrades, the Zen Masters will be following soon with info I'm sure....for my knowledge is only in reading it here!

Good luck!

stubby

Hey Matt, welcome to the jungle. Excellent pair of speakers you have there. I would buy another pair in a heartbeat. Alas, I sold mine about 6 months ago.
There should be a bunch of info here. Try searching SRS 3.1 crossover or something like that.
You will really like those 198 tweets. A definite improvement. And just so you know, your speakers don't have polyswitches, so you need to be careful. It's probably why Polk suggested the fuses. Make sure you give them plenty of CURRENT. Don't let watts per channel do all the talking.
Are yours oak or walnut?

stubby

TrashyTrucker

stubby wrote: »

Make sure you give them plenty of CURRENT. Don't let watts per channel do all the talking.
Are yours oak or walnut?

stubby

Hey Stubby Not sure what you mean by "dont let wpc do all the talking."? please explain.

And my 3.1's are oak.
I have them biamped with:
1-Hafler 9500 trans nova for the low side. 250wpc x2@8ohms.
1-Carver tfm35 for the high side. 250wpc x2@8ohms.

Ive had this rig since the 90's...
I really wish I could find another Hafler 9500 to pair with the one I have. But must be patient if I am able to find one

P.s___It's nice to know there are others who share in another one of my
passion(s). ILLNESSES
I love digital photography too, so look for future posts with pics posted with some detail by me in the future, as I am part of a photography geek site that is similar to this site as well.

Thanks for your help and the warm welcome,

Matt

TrashyTrucker

fishbones wrote: »

Schematic...scroll down to you see your model:

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55888

As far as upgrades, the Zen Masters will be following soon with info I'm sure....for my knowledge is only in reading it here!

Good luck!

Thanks Fishbones!
BTW fishing is also another one of my illnesses....ooops I mean hobbies, LOL


Matt

restanim

From what I have read in the past, the 3.1TL's did not have poly switches. So, be careful.

Mike

headrott

Matt here is one thread that may help with installation of the rings (if and when Larry does another run of them, hopefully when he does). There are a few other threads for the 3.1TL's but I haven't dug them out yet.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103598

Greg

TrashyTrucker

headrott wrote: »

Matt here is one thread that may help with installation of the rings (if and when Larry does another run of them, hopefully when he does). There are a few other threads for the 3.1TL's but I haven't dug them out yet.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103598

Greg

Greg,
That is so cool! I had no Idea what these rings you guys have been talking about was. I do now! They make perfect sense...However I STILL dont know where to purchase them? But Im real sure you or someone will walk me through this as well. I will have to mod the crossover next I pressume? I have the 198's on order.
BTW
This site is so cool! I had NO idea this existed till a few days ago as I stumbled upon it by accident.
Thankyou for the link as well as you posting it. Looking forward to whats next.

Matt

engtaz

Welcome

bluecomet

3.1tl's have surprising bass for there size. My favorite mid size SDA speaker. Welcome.

restanim

I betcha very similar bass output to the SDA-1C.

Ricardo

Welcome Matt.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47929&highlight=crossover

bluecomet

The 3.1tl has more bass than the 1C. Both are excellent speakers but between the better bass and the Sl3000 tweeters, I would pick the 3.1tl's over the 1C's.

TrashyTrucker

Lasareath wrote: »

Welcome to Club Polk Matt!!!

I never heard a pair of 3.1TL's, maybe I'll buy a pair one day!

Lasareath

Thanks Laseareth for the welcome and nice build on your 1.2's

engtaz wrote: »

Welcome

Thanks engtaz

bluecomet wrote: »

3.1tl's have surprising bass for there size. My favorite mid size SDA speaker. Welcome.

Thanks for the flowers bluecomet! My 3.1's may be smaller than it's bigger brothers, but they are by far are NO wimps! They were designed for smaller space in mind, and they match my surroundings. So far they have met my needs.

restanim wrote: »

I betcha very similar bass output to the SDA-1C.

I have no idea restanim... I know the 1c's have two tweets to my one, but is it the same SL3000 as in the 3.1TL? im not quite sure?

Ricardo wrote: »

Welcome Matt.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47929&highlight=crossover

Finally...Ricardo! Thankyou so very much for the crossover build! I am so excited to do these mods that it will be almost like getting new speakers! LOL
I really appreciate ALL of you guys help here.


Matt

restanim

Hey Matt, welcome to the club!

The SDA-1C came with the SL2000 as oppose to the SL3000 that your SRS-3.1TL have. The TL suffix in the model number indicates the your speakers have the SL3000, as do all speakers with the TL suffix have the SL3000.

Mike

TrashyTrucker

restanim wrote: »

Hey Matt, welcome to the club!

The SDA-1C came with the SL2000 as oppose to the SL3000 that your SRS-3.1TL have. The TL suffix in the model number indicates the your speakers have the SL3000, as do all speakers with the TL suffix have the SL3000.

Mike

Mike thanks for the welcome!
Yea I was just reading about the TL (Tri-Laminate)
Ive had these speakers since the 90's and they are really nice to have around on rainy days. LOL.
I couldnt belive at first that one could actually make them sound any better?
But after reading the posts in this site... :eek: guess that makes me the new resident NEWB. ha ha

Thanks,
Matt

headrott

Matt,

I would recommend doing the crossovers first (huge sound improvement after being done) and then dynamat extreme the drivers and PR. You can Mortite the drivers, PR (if you feel inclined) and then add Larry's rings when he makes the next sets. I will send Larry a template for the rings so you won't have to cut them. Your 3.1TL's will sound phenominal after all is done. Believe me, they can sound better.

Greg

fishbones

restanim wrote: »

The SDA-1C came with the SL2000 as oppose to the SL3000 that your SRS-3.1TL have. The TL suffix in the model number indicates the your speakers have the SL3000, as do all speakers with the TL suffix have the SL3000.

I was under the impression that the C version of the SDA 1's shared the same tweeter as the TL's? Guess I misunderstood the posts?

thsmith

Welcome to CP Matt !

Looks like you are getting plenty of support and this is a great bunch.

Have fun, post often and gets some pics of your 3.1s.

stubby

TrashyTrucker wrote: »

Hey Stubby Not sure what you mean by "dont let wpc do all the talking."? please explain.

And my 3.1's are oak.
I have them biamped with:
1-Hafler 9500 trans nova for the low side. 250wpc x2@8ohms.
1-Carver tfm35 for the high side. 250wpc x2@8ohms.

Ive had this rig since the 90's...
I really wish I could find another Hafler 9500 to pair with the one I have. But must be patient if I am able to find one

P.s___It's nice to know there are others who share in another one of my
passion(s). ILLNESSES
I love digital photography too, so look for future posts with pics posted with some detail by me in the future, as I am part of a photography geek site that is similar to this site as well.

Thanks for your help and the warm welcome,

Matt

Hey Matt, you should be in good shape with the amps you have. What I was saying with WPC - many people here use high quality tube amps with their SDA's that do not have high power ratings as far as "watts". They do have real he-man power supplies and caps and can sound like much larger amps.

They provide the current necessary for clean power and sound. Some solid state amps can have high WPC ratings, but have limited power supply and smallish caps that cannot keep up with an SDA's impedance curves, which can dip to below 4 ohms at times.

Most of the solid state amps used around here are Carver, Adcom, Acurus, Rotel, etc. that have "good parts":D. Your Hafler would also fit the bill!

stubby