anyone use an amp with Polk Monitors?

ZeroCoolPolks

I don't have time to proof read all this so if anything is way out of wack, just ask.

These are my opinions and facts gathered & I know not everyone will agree with them.
This info is not meant to start a war

Here U go...............


The 1900 has smaller capacitors so it'll be a little less power than the 3900 but not much
RX-V 3900 uses two 18000 uF capacitors

RX-V 1900 uses two 12000 uF capacitors
Being they weigh nearly the same not much power difference.

Your 608 is kinda new? so might not find a review yet with bench tests for the audio end.
Some review sites

http://www.hometheatermag.com/equipmentreviews/

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/features/2009/05/first-listen-dolby-pro-logic-iiz

http://www.ultimateavmag.com/avreceivers/608yam663/index7.html

The 765 is the third, Now at egg for 319.99
YAMAHA RXV-765 319.99 PROMO CODE this has preouts for external amps

EMCYWZV69

Promo codes expire 08/23/2010
That's a great deal I paid 400 with a free Ipod doc U can get from amazon for 40.00. The 765 passes audio and video in stand by, like the 3900 does, the 1900 will not it has to be on.

If you are considering electric bills the 3900 in stand by draws 45 watts of electricity per hour about 12 cents a day.
To shut it off you have it in an audio mode only, then it 'll shut off. If it's in an audio video mode like cable tv i when U power off it'll go in to standby. It's just what it does.

They are all different animals from the same species

AS for Yamaha on the bright side I've listened to Pioneer top of the line Elite at Best Buy and it didn't thrill me but it's in a room with acoustic wall panels and I bought the Z-11 and 3900 for the great price and reputation with out listening first, I'm very satisfied. I read about Yamaha's at AVS for 6 months before even choosing the first lower end Yamaha 665. I started with 2 Pioneer VSX 917's and then 2- Yamaha RXV 665, rxv 765 at 6 lbs more than a 665, the 765 has an audio quality advantage, I eded up with a 3900, a z11 and a 765. The 608 is new so if it has preouts U could just amp that.

In the AVS forums you'll find a lot of happy Yamaha owners more so on average than all other brands, just the way it is now and that could change in the future.


This is my personal take on the manufacturers I looked at.

Sony's are grossly under powered on the bench tests even their high end ES series.

Denon to many issues.

Onkyo too many issues with HDMI boards dead units unless there will be less with the 8 series as in 608 series. even their high end avr's scored poorly when it had to run a 7 channel set up at 30 to 35 WPC from a 40 to 50 LB receiver, somethings really wrong their. But peeps will tell U In a home theater set up it's not hitting all 7 at once, but sometimes they do. But if U use a 7 channel enhancer mode or 7 channel stereo mode you have to have the power to drive all seven so the 3900 has

Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver:
HT Labs Measures
HT Labs Measures: Yamaha RXV-3900 A/V Receiver Rated at 140wpc X 7,
but actually test at:

Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 69.2 watts
1% distortion at 81.5 watts

Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 62.9 watts
1% distortion at 68.9 watts

other test rate the 3900 at 100 watts per channel in 5 .1
like sound and vision

5 channels driven (8 ohms): 100 W (20 dBW)
7 channels driven (8 ohms): 88 W (19.4 dBW)


The Yamaha 765 will; score closer to the 1065

like this

Yamaha RX-V1065 A/V Receiver:
HT Labs Measures
HT Labs Measures Yamaha RX-V1065 A/V Receiver:
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 50.4 watts
1% distortion at 59.7 watts
Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 30.2 watts
1% distortion at 35.2 watts


so bench tests are looked at with a skeptical view but in general they are close.



I know all this info can be a pain, but whatever U pick it'll sound darn good.

Any questions???

ZeroCoolPolks

review for

Onkyo TX-SR608 A/V Receiver

You are probably getting as much power or more than a Yamaha 756 will produce, it's close and knowing U have to double the wattage to increase what U hear by 3 db's they are in the same range. But the 765 add an emo at 125 a channel or 200 a channel and there is a bang in power. Some do like the Yamaha's with Emo's and some don't. Whether it's bright or sensitive ears, WHUT?, I run all mine with the EQ'S flat anyway. It's easy to get hung up on stats.

http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/onkyo_tx-sr608_av_receiver/


Receivers
Onkyo TX-SR608 A/V Receiver:
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HT Labs Measures

Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 82.3 watts
1% distortion at 84.7 watts

Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 30.9 watts
1% distortion at 40.1 watts


In a 5.1 it seems to fair better, WPC wise than a Yamaha 3900 in one review but not another, but in real life, I'd think not The 3900 will make up for things like, crosstalk, audio processing, especially the video processing in a 3900 is top rated, it does look awesome.

600 MSRP and no preouts, that's what I'm talking about, Yamaha has the bang for the buck, now anyway.

I'm waiting for all the manuf's to sell just processor units that weigh 10 LB's a wack and all the amps will be separate. :)LOL

tonyb

I'm glad you posted the bench tests because it makes my point in another thread on bi-amping with a receiver. Taking the 608 as an example, if you used the 6th and 7th channel to bi-amp your fronts,your sending a tad less than 62 watts to that speaker. If you just ran it in 5.1, your sending 82 watts to that speaker. Sorry to get off track, carry on gents.

Lietuvis91

ZeroCoolPolks:
all very good points you are making. I actually was looking through those exact same bench tests before I left work today to go to best buy(more on that in a bit)
I had my setup running in 7.1 mode, and that is precisely why I kept noticing a lack of authority in the overall sound of the system. I then yanked the rear channels thinking I wanted to free up some power, ran it in 5.1, so the m70s,m60s and cs2 remained connected. I was amazed at how it seemed to "wake up". At first i thought that the improvement in sound was all in my head, but then I came across that same bench test and realized that the remaining speakers are getting almost twice the power (40w to 80w per ch)... HOLLY ****! I'm not crazy, it was true after all.

At best buy tonight I got to hear the pio elite 32 and a yamaha a1000 through the same set of definitive tech floorstanding speakers (which the salesman said have built in amps? really?) and I have to say, i was VERY surprised, how to my ears, the yamaha won hands down, no competition. It was like listening to a live concert(yamaha) and then watching tv(pio elite)... i was stunned... i did not expect THAT much of a difference. I wonder now if the salesman had different settings on each of the receivers or something, maybe I'll get a chance to pass by again and set it up myself just to make sure. He acutally said he prefers the pio sound over the yammy... to each his own I guess. Now I can see how you could percieve the yamaha sound as bright, it did seem much crispier and clearer compared to the pio, and maybe amplification makes it crispier to where it's crunchy? lol! I doubt it...

Jeez... this is turning into a diary... sorry all! In short, the yamaha is growing on me, but at the same time I am much happier with my onki 608 in 5.1 channel mode than I was in 7.1 mode because obviously the speakers are getting more of the much needed power, and are able to show more of their potential.
This makes me wonder even more what 5x200watts rms would do...:D

ZeroCoolPolks

Yea my 765 is in a 5.1 now, it gives the set up that added kick.

My 3900 is in a 7.2 and it kicks it all around, I use a 7.2 cause of a thx neural mode and others that use all 7 instead of dolby digital as 5.2

The Pioneers I heard, top of the line Elite's at Best Buy were in Pure Direct Mode, as in just passing the signal when I listened to every set of speakers they had for sale, that was after I had moved up to the M70's and my 70's won hands down except for the Vienna's and I'm not a fan of Klipsch horns or anything they had for sale at the time.
This Best Buy will not put Polk's TSI line in the Magnolia room, sales man told me they tried that and they were not good at all, What load of Bullcrap.
If I want the horn shrill high's sound I have 4 Sansui 5500"s, that pack a horn, a tweeter, 3 mids and a 15" woofer in real wood, that's when they made them awesome at an affordable price.

That Yamaha crispness or clarity, I hear, is why I run them flat on the EQ, so I hear the audio recordings as close as they were intended to be played back.

vstarkwell

mhardy6647 wrote: »

heh, a little piece of the Wall of Sound...

http://media.locals.ca/localsconf/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=151485


http://www.ricksuchow.com/images/leshhb.jpg
http://www.hometoys.com/ezine/09.04/hinton/jerry-w-4-mc2300.jpg

Nice post!!!, Polk Monitors+Phil dropping bombs on THIS bass in the pic = musical bliss although my 10A's can sound a little muddy on the low end, I'm wondering is an Amp would clean that up.