E8400 wolfdale users.

fbm211

Whats your temps.
Im getting readings at 44c-(core0) and (49c-core1.)
This is with a zlaman copper heatsink.CNPS9800 I think.

Are these temps safe?

My PC isnt 100% stable....games just quit.IE locks up

kawizx9r

Had an E8400 2 years ago, ran I think it was...39-41c and up to 45-49c full load using a Thermaltake heatsink. I remember that much cause I never saw past 51-53c. It was my gaming computer.

Did you OC yours at all?

I OC'd mine, upped the voltage as well as changed the timing on my memory and OC'd my video cards.

fbm211

Those are my idle temps

concealer404

What paste did you use when you installed the Zalman, and how much of it?

FWIW, i've never been a fan of those Zalman heatsinks, but i don't think it should be the problem, here. Sounds like the install may have been botched.

kawizx9r

fbm211 wrote: »

Those are my idle temps

Ouch, bet you already know this but keep in mind regardless of how many fans you've got in your PC...it's taking air from within the room you're in so that could be a factor as well to consider. I had a small AC in the room I was in.

kawizx9r

concealer404 wrote: »

What paste did you use when you installed the Zalman, and how much of it?

FWIW, i've never been a fan of those Zalman heatsinks, but i don't think it should be the problem, here. Sounds like the install may have been botched.

Good point Ben!

Btw, 6k posts? God damn :eek:

fbm211

I have AC.
I think concealer404 is on the right track.
I used zalman paste.Just a bit on the sink and a bit on the cpu like always.Never had this problem before.
Its time to order some more artic sliver 5 like I always used before.I need a new mouse anyway.

concealer404

kawizx9r wrote: »

Good point Ben!

Btw, 6k posts? God damn :eek:

I HAVE been here for twice as long as you, you know.

I've been slowing down a bit, though. I'm at a wierd crossroads where i have no idea where to go with my rig. It's partially your fault for taking "my" Paradigms.

I'll pick back up when Chris brings me teh new hawtness.

kawizx9r

concealer404 wrote: »

I HAVE been here for twice as long as you, you know.

I've been slowing down a bit, though. I'm at a wierd crossroads where i have no idea where to go with my rig. It's partially your fault for taking "my" Paradigms.

I'll pick back up when Chris brings me teh new hawtness.

Lol true, that and I had that sudden 'absence' from the forum.

Hey, I always told ya the Paradigms are simply waiting in my rig until you've got a chance to take them! I plan on returning back to Magnepan speakers anyway so whenever you can swing it let me know! Got the original boxes and everything.

And good call FBM, I've never used Zalman or any other paste for that matter other than the Artic stuff.

concealer404

fbm211 wrote: »

I have AC.
I think concealer404 is on the right track.
I used zalman paste.Just a bit on the sink and a bit on the cpu like always.Never had this problem before.
Its time to order some more artic sliver 5 like I always used before.I need a new mouse anyway.

When you say "a bit," how much do you mean?

Is the zalman stuff copper, silicone, or silver based? Silicone paste is a waste of time, and i don't like the copper, either.

Order some AS5, make very sure you get both the heatsink and the cores squeeky clean before you install again. Then, on the CORES ONLY, put a small bit of AS5, think like... small grain of rice. Then install heatsink.

I always did a "no-no" and would spread the paste evenly with a credit card over the heatsink with great results in performance, but common wisdom says NOT to do that, so i'd stick with that.

That said, i DID manage to get my old AMD Athlons to idle at dead room temp using that method back when i was into overclocking. (Yes, still on air cooling.)

concealer404

kawizx9r wrote: »

Lol true, that and I had that sudden 'absence' from the forum.

Hey, I always told ya the Paradigms are simply waiting in my rig until you've got a chance to take them! I plan on returning back to Magnepan speakers anyway so whenever you can swing it let me know! Got the original boxes and everything.

And good call FBM, I've never used Zalman or any other paste for that matter other than the Artic stuff.

Oh, i'll be taking them, then.

I still need to call you, (and chris for that matter) just been stupid busy. Lots of news and stuff.

WilliamM2

Those temps aren't too high. I have a E8400 running at 3.8Ghz, temps are 43c and 39c at idle, but I've seen them both go to 50c when encoding, I use an aftermarket heatsink, forget the manufacturer. Computer has never crashed in two years.

I've seen E8400's with stock heatsinks at work run 50c all day long without an issue. Looks like a software issue to me, or maybe a buggy motherboard.

kawizx9r

concealer404 wrote: »

Oh, i'll be taking them, then.

I still need to call you, (and chris for that matter) just been stupid busy. Lots of news and stuff.

Yeah same, currently in Texas...and that PT Cruiser GT is an automatic. The turbo in it makes the car fun. Tell you all about it later.

FBM, what kind of mouse are you getting? Got me missing my older E8400. Was running Corsair XMS2 ram with dual 8800 GTS SLi'd.

Dual boot, XP as my main and Ubuntu as my alt but I'd run both anyway (Ubuntu on virtual machine) with dual monitors. Now I run an AMD with a 5750 also on dual monitors (Vista and Fedora mainly but sometimes Ubuntu) on my main computer.

concealer404

Ah... i didn't know what the temps of those things were supposed to be. Just sounded way high from what i'm used to.

Might be time to run some memory tests.

fbm211

I have some AS5 but its over 2 years old and has been used twice.---Too old.

The zalman stuff is white and I would have to say that after this I will never use anything but AS5 again.Maybe Ill get some of that AS cleaner too.
This rebuild went perfect except for the thermal problem.And I need a CPU power cable extension.
Thanks

concealer404

Does AS5 have a shelf life? I still have some from like... 5 years ago that i used a couple weeks ago on a laptop that was overheating.

fbm211

I think Ill get a RAZER diomondback or Copperhead.:D And mouse pad too.

Im going to reinstall XP again..Dont want to blow too much money as I plan to go to an i7 platform in a few months.Ill set up a dual boot with XP for gaming my current games and win 7 for internet and the games coming out soon.---Like Need for speed coming out in november.:D

I read on newegg somewhere to use fresh thermal paste.Its probably still good though.Ill have to look in the old parts box for it.

kawizx9r

fbm211 wrote: »

I think Ill get a RAZER diomondback or Copperhead.:D And mouse pad too.

Make sure to look into the model you plan to get, I heard some of them can run a bit warm and they're of mediocre build quality. I've always stuck with Logitech

concealer404

I Razer mice.

WilliamM2

concealer404 wrote: »

Does AS5 have a shelf life? I still have some from like... 5 years ago that i used a couple weeks ago on a laptop that was overheating.

I don't think so. I still have some AS3 I've been using for at least 8 years, works as well as it ever did.

polktiger

running a Xigmatek 1283 I was getting idle temps around 30 degrees and full load video encoding at 55 or so. I changed some things up and am now using a little Rosewill Z300 cooler (basically a simple stock replacement, using the Xigmatek in a different machine), and it is idle around 35 degrees. No overclock.

Bobsama

Pentium E6300 (Wolfdale) @ 3.5GHz (turned down for the summer)

47-49C at 100% load with ~27C ambient.

billbillw

Your temps are fine.
At stock speeds, Intel Core CPUs are happy as long as you keep them under 70C. The actual spec that Intel gives is 72.4C, but I'd be a little worried at anything above 65C though.

My Q9550 with a older Zalman flower type cooler and Arctic Silver generally runs around 44-48C at idle on core 1 (environment is usually around 25C). I see 55-58C under heavy encoding loads. The other cores tend to run a few degrees cooler. I've had absolutely no stability issues.

BTW, I wouldn't worry about your AS5 being too old. The stuff is basically very fine silver particles emulsified in an oil paste. How does that go bad? You should make sure you followed the most current Arctic Silver directions for your CPU. They vary a lot depending on the core arrangement, etc.

fbm211

The fans I ordered for the top of the case got here today and the DEMCiflex Computer Air Filters will be here next week.

Best of all I got a 4c temp drop.49 down to 45.:D

kawizx9r

Niiice.

I'd like to hear about your CPU once you reapply the thermal paste between it and the heatsink.

fbm211

The AS5 should be here monday.

Id like to OC it.Ive been getting my read on P35-DS4 OCing and a-lot of people get this set-up to 4GHZ----Easy.

renowilliams

fbm211 wrote: »

I think Ill get a RAZER diomondback or Copperhead.:D And mouse pad too.

Im going to reinstall XP again..Dont want to blow too much money as I plan to go to an i7 platform in a few months.Ill set up a dual boot with XP for gaming my current games and win 7 for internet and the games coming out soon.---Like Need for speed coming out in november.:D

I read on newegg somewhere to use fresh thermal paste.Its probably still good though.Ill have to look in the old parts box for it.

This is a link to the heat sink and fan I use. You can get it now and use it. When you buy your i7 you'll be able to use it with it,as it comes with mounting hardware fot LGA775, socket 1156 and socket 1366 cpus. It also comes with mounting hardware for AMD sockets as well.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/noctua_nhd14/

Fongolio

I have an 8400 running at just under 4 GHz using a Corsair H50 liquid cooling setup. My idle temps are very close to yours but even under load I rarely see variations of more than 5 degrees. Also rock solid. No crashes. Ever. Here's a link:

http://www.corsair.com/products/h50/default.aspx

fbm211

Would DDR 2 memory run on DDR3 mobo.For instance this one.>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128422.

renowilliams

fbm211 wrote: »

Would DDR 2 memory run on DDR3 mobo.For instance this one.>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128422.

No, DDR2 memory will not work on that board.

Bobsama

DDR2 memory is NOT pin-compatible. While both have 240 pins, there's a notch that simply won't fit in the wrong type of slot.

Another option for you might be going the AMD route. If you've already got 240-pin DDR2 667+ DIMMs (ie: desktop RAM, not 200-pin laptop RAM), you can get away with saving $50+ (for me, more like $120-150) by going with an AMD AM2+ motherboard that uses DDR2.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186149 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130266

And, for a processor, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103809 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851

You'll also want to make sure that your power supply is good enough for the load. A $20 unit simply won't cut it long-term. If you're only planning on running stock (not overclocking), then a power supply such as a Corsair 400CX, Seasonic SS-400ET Bronze, or Antec EA-380D or EA-430D would be great choices.

On a side-note: a Wolfdale processor WILL NOT WORK in an LGA-1366, LGA-1156, or AM2/AM2+/AM3 motherboard. They'll only work in LGA-775 motherboards which have long since been EOL'd (discontinued).