Newbie and First Polk HT
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All Onkios run hot !kennethkars wrote: »The 707 looks great but have read it runs very hot. Am reading on some reviews that there are lapses in video processing and many believe it may be related to the heat issue not only in the 707 but other modells. The 608 has a built in fan and runs much cooler.
Does the 707 run hotter than most other Onkyo's? Should this be a factor in my decision making process?
Any issues with your 707?DARE TO SOAR:
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kennethkars wrote: »The 707 looks great but have read it runs very hot. Am reading on some reviews that there are lapses in video processing and many believe it may be related to the heat issue not only in the 707 but other modells. The 608 has a built in fan and runs much cooler.
Does the 707 run hotter than most other Onkyo's? Should this be a factor in my decision making process?
Any issues with your 707?
I have heard both sides, its runs hot and it doesnt. I hear more of the it runs cool than hot from my reading. If it makes a difference I wish I had purchased that reciever used than the Integra I bought. I would still buy that reciever even if it runs a "little" hot. As long as you have some space above it and beside it (which all AVR's need anyway) you should be fine. I would recommend against stacking stuff on top just to be safe.
I own a Integra 5.9 (which is a high end Onkyo reciever) and it is cool to the touch all the time, even when driving speakers hard. If you are seriously worried about heat dissapation there are a couple different options that would help cool it down. Antec makes one (link) which I might buy anyway just cause it looks pretty cool and would help with airflow regardless. Plus as I plan to purchase a component rack at some point I will need something like this anyway.
If you like the 707's features and price, buy it. You can always augment cooling through different methods later for a small price. You cant always add those features to a reciever that doesnt have them...
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Input from a new 707 owner (just got it from Amazon): It runs HOT!!! It's the first 'real' receiver I've owned (upgrading from a low end Onkyo which I can't recall the model of). I don't know how hot they normally run but it's absolutely the hottest device in my HT.
I couldn't keep it on the bottom shelf of my TV stand, because way too much heat was radiating up to the top shelf, and I was frankly worried about how cramped it was with only a couple inches to breathe. Can't comment on AV issues since I've had none, but I haven't exactly owned it very long. As far as price for features, I'm very satisfied with it but I keep it on a small table next to my TV stand just so it has all the room it wants to breathe.Front/Rear - 4x Tsi500s
Center - CS20
Sub - Hsu VTF-3 MK3
Receiver - Onkyo TX-SR707
TV - LG 47LH90
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This was posted in another thread about the 707 as well:Gulfstrings wrote: »Wouldn't present myself as an Onkyo (or any other audio equip) expert, but can't imagine any mainline manufacturer placing a product in the market with this type of reliability issues. My 707 lives in a cabinet and has never done anything but perform as expected. Not saying I'd like to sit on it for an hour or two, but when compared to my NAD amp - it's a cool runner.
My 707 resides in a space that provides ten or more inches above, one or two inches on either side, complete opening behind and closed (door) in front. I believe that satisfied Onkyo's recommendations - they have (or did have) a help line on their website you could call for better understanding.
I have been looking for a cooling fan for the NAD amp but have not ever thought the 707 was running hot.
Good luck,
Dave"....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
spock 2054 wrote: »I'd suggest picking up the receiver that has the most inputs for devices you want to connect now, and in the future. I have an Onkyo TXSR-806, and have not had any problems with it. The only problem I have currently, is that I am just about out of inputs. 8 out of the 9 devices in my HT run through the 806. (see attached) The 608 is cool because it's 3d ready. The 707 has a phono input, as does the 180. The 180 has an advantage with the network port for streaming from a pc or the Internet. I think it looks better than your other two choices because it has the door to hide a lot of the buttons. Have you been to any brick and mortar stores to play around with any of your choices?
As you own a 608 please comment on my post and the review below.
Personally I have always loved the "forward-in your face" sound typical of Onkyo receivers. Reminds of being in the sweet spot in the pit at a Dead Show. But many critiques have often stated the forward sound in there personal opinion was a bit over the top at times. "What Hi Fi" the bible of Audio from England has been one of the vocal critiques (from time to time) in respect to the forward sounding (gonna bite your **** head off) Onkyo's. The review below really has me thinking about the "refined" engineering of the 608. Never heard it side by side with any other Onkyo and am curious if there is merit to the review.
To all 608 owners and Onkyo users who hae heard the 608. Please have a read. Would love to hear your comments.
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Yamaha RX-V765, 335.00 today.
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FYI....Newegg really pushing my buttons with a new price drop of the 608 to only 394 BUX.
http://bountii.com/search.php?item=onkyo+608 -
Wonder what's with 3 Onkyo open boxes at egg, three peeps didn't like em for some reason
Did U read the reviews at Amazon on the 608?
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ZeroCoolPolks wrote: »Wonder what's with 3 Onkyo open boxes at egg, three peeps didn't like em for some reason
Did U read the reviews at Amazon on the 608?
It wouldn't get my vote, QC is still an issue.
I do have concerns about Onkyo QC and not only about the 608. If you read reviews on any onkyo with more than 50 reviews there will be 5-10% who express dissatisfaction with hardware/software. It is why The merchant you buy from is very important. -
There are some upper end Onkyo's with HDMI board issues.
For the 608 at amazon it's 25% of the reviews that are low, but like with anything people are more apt to write a review when something goes wrong than is good about a product. So for all 608 sales the issues are probably less than 1%. -
ZeroCoolPolks wrote: »There are some upper end Onkyo's with HDMI board issues.
For the 608 at amazon it's 25% of the reviews that are low, but like with anything people are more apt to write a review when something goes wrong than is good about a product. So for all 608 sales the issues are probably less than 1%.
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I should say WAY less than 1%, industry acceptable standard.
"Six-sigma process is one in which 99.99966% of the products manufactured are free of defects", Wouldn't that be great if all manuf's. actually reached that goal.
Less than 4 defects out of a million, some manuf.'s actually use to reach that goal.
Last 20 or so years with profit #1, Q.C. seems to be slipping. -
kennethkars wrote: »Hi to all. Only came upon this forum after 1 week of research and am pleased I can get real feedback from experienced Polk Fans . My son came to me and asked about putting together his first HT for his small room. He asked about HTIB but I steered him towards individual components with matching timbre. With personal experience in building my own dedicated HT in the last 3 years with paradigm speakers and Onkyo Reciever and previous set ups with Bose 301's and Wharfdale 9.1 , I was eager to research and find him a great deal. As my son is a recent graduate and just now landed a full time job his budget is tiny so in order to get a decent set up I offered him a 50-50 deal. For every dollar he puts up I will match it. The 5.1 speaker set up plus receiver should be no more than 800 Bux total.
I never owned Polk but always admired it. Sound and reputation are well known and I nearly bought Polk Monitor series 3 years ago. So when I came across the these incredible deals on EBay offering the Monitor 40's and 30"s I knew I knew I was on to something. Those great deals on Ebay were for refurbished units but having searched I found Newegg and was elated. I put together the (Brand New and not Refurbished ) 5.1 of the monitor 40"s as fronts (129 Bux ), the 30's as surrounds ( 85 Bux ) and the Sub PSW10 ( 99 Bux ) The center speaker, The CS1 ( about 69 BUX) was sold out on Newegg so My options were to look at Ebay and other retailers but again the bargains were for mostly refurbs and I wanted the brand new one. Low and behold Newegg are now offering the CS1 Series II. Its not a bad deal for 130 Bux. AS I am ordering I decide to do a search for promos and found one. It is for 40 dollar off!! Wow.....am again elated and grab the center for only 92 Bux.
Total cost for 5.1 speakers is 430 Bux including delivery. And this now leaves us about 400 Bux for an Onkyo Reciever. The receiver I am leaning towards is the Onkyo 608. There are some great deals for around 425-450 Bux.
Guys......am I right in thinking Polk and Onkyo go well together?
Would you recommend I consider other brands?
Thanx for reading.
Have been debating on the acquisition of an Onkyo 608 or 707 but low and behold my brother recently purchased a new pioneer Elite receiver and has shelved his Pioneer Elite ( circa 2007/2008). He is now making me/my son an offer we can not refuse. I do not know the model number but my son will pick it up on or before Friday.
So with not having to buy a new receiver and 400 Bux in hand.......
Newegg has just advertised on there website what looks like a great deal. The new Monitor 70 Series II (Black) with coupon is only 179 Bux each . Looks like an amazing deal.
Am really tempted to pull the trigger as reviews on the monitor 70's are great!
And JR Music are now advertising for 369 a pair + free delivery.
and holy crap batman........log1X says....I emailed JR Audio just to see if I could get a better deal since I missed out on the $149/each from Newegg awhile back and they gave me $40 off! $320 shipped. They'll be here Thursday.......
and I think and think more.........and .....then Tolkien comes back and says " Called JR and got the same deal, 320$ shipped.
and I then call my son...and we do the number crunching.........and
"Done Deal! 159.99 each or 319.98 a pair. Unfortunately being from the lovely state of NY I do have to pay tax and the total came out to 348.36 USD! + free delivery
Delivery most likely by Friday if not Tomorrow.
Yahoooooooooooo
Get on it folks.....320 bux a pair if you call JR Music.
And thanx to Log1X, Tolkien, Techno and Mole for there feedback and input.
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kennethkars, it is your dedication and tedious searching that allowed you to to be successfull to put up a great quality entry level system for your son at very friendly pricing. I coomand you for this, serious research for the right equipment that matches one specific needs and budget is key to acquire BBB and maximize quality for the $$$ spent. You sure did that very successfully and I am convinced your son will be pleased and remember is first system long after it is gone and will be greathfull for his dad commitment to make sure his son gets the best personalised first audio experience :cool:
PS: I sure hope you will stick around the forum as you can gain from it and definitively provide others with good insight.
Congrat for a job well done!
TKDARE TO SOAR:
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kennethkars, it is your dedication and tedious searching that allowed you to to be successfull to put up a great quality entry level system for your son at very friendly pricing. I coomand you for this, serious research for the right equipment that matches one specific needs and budget is key to acquire BBB and maximize quality for the $$$ spent. You sure did that very successfully and I am convinced your son will be pleased and remember is first system long after it is gone and will be greathfull for his dad commitment to make sure his son gets the best personalised first audio experience :cool:
PS: I sure hope you will stick around the forum as you can gain from it and definitively provide others with good insight.
Congrat for a job well done!
TK
Thanx Techno. Will no doubt be around for a while. -
If I read your post correct you're assembling speakers from the same Polk line-VERY smart! Also while the speakers "have the final say," like a person, pet, or plants, feeding them the "right food at the right time" (a quality source* and processing) is an essential part of the equation for sucess.
* an awesome souce** w/great processing followed by good amplification should produce better results than reversing that priority chain. Some may diagree w/this philosophy.
** can you say Blu-Ray?!
When I added the last pair of Polks (from a different line) to my system, I realized that "fluid, in the middle of the image" I'd been seeking.
On another note: Is the rumor true several rogue Polk engineers started Paradigm?
TK: what does BBB mean?
Cheers tonySamsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
*soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s -
Best Bang for the Buck!TK: what does BBB mean?DARE TO SOAR:
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kennethkars wrote: »Have been debating on the acquisition of an Onkyo 608 or 707 but low and behold my brother recently purchased a new pioneer Elite receiver and has shelved his Pioneer Elite ( circa 2007/2008). He is now making me/my son an offer we can not refuse. I do not know the model number but my son will pick it up on or before Friday.
So with not having to buy a new receiver and 400 Bux in hand.......
Newegg has just advertised on there website what looks like a great deal. The new Monitor 70 Series II (Black) with coupon is only 179 Bux each . Looks like an amazing deal.
Am really tempted to pull the trigger as reviews on the monitor 70's are great!
And JR Music are now advertising for 369 a pair + free delivery.
and holy crap batman........log1X says....I emailed JR Audio just to see if I could get a better deal since I missed out on the $149/each from Newegg awhile back and they gave me $40 off! $320 shipped. They'll be here Thursday.......
and I think and think more.........and .....then Tolkien comes back and says " Called JR and got the same deal, 320$ shipped.
and I then call my son...and we do the number crunching.........and
"Done Deal! 159.99 each or 319.98 a pair. Unfortunately being from the lovely state of NY I do have to pay tax and the total came out to 348.36 USD! + free delivery
Delivery most likely by Friday if not Tomorrow.
Yahoooooooooooo
Get on it folks.....320 bux a pair if you call JR Music.
And thanx to Log1X, Tolkien, Techno and Mole for there feedback and input.
have a great day!
UPDATE
My son confirmed speakers arrived this afternoon. He is toooooo happy. Huge boxes but he has yet to open it as he traveled to pickup the Pioneer receiver from his Uncle. And Oh Man this receiver is a sexy and an Elegant beast. In excellent condition.
Am hoping it will be a great match for the monitor 70's, monitor 40's and monitor 30's in the rear. CS1 center and PSW10 Sub.
Check it out! Would love some feedback
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...ers/VSX-74TXVi -
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Yep, works fine and the Pioneer is fine too :cool: Pioneer and Onkio seemed to be the favored receivers on here to be used with most Polk speakers.kennethkars wrote: »DARE TO SOAR:
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