Apparently, in Caulifornia and the rest of the west coast, wind power is a problem
Jstas
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http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2010/07/too_much_of_a_good_thing_growt.html
The result? They had to shut down the wind power generation by feathering the turbines.
It's sad because all that power is going to waste but it's kinda funny in an ironic sense.
On the afternoon of May 19, in a single chaotic hour, more than a thousand wind turbines in the Columbia River Gorge went from spinning lazily in the breeze to full throttle as a storm rolled east out of Hood River.
Suddenly, almost two nuclear plants worth of extra power was sizzling down the lines -- the largest hourly spike in wind power the Northwest has ever experienced.
At the Bonneville Power Administration's control room in Vancouver, it was too much of a good thing. More electricity than its customers needed. More than the available power lines could export from the region. And more than the grid could readily absorb by ramping down generation at the region's network of federal dams.
The result? They had to shut down the wind power generation by feathering the turbines.
It's sad because all that power is going to waste but it's kinda funny in an ironic sense.
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Hmmm I could just see someone out there with their amp shouting at the power lines saying why can't I just hook my speakers up directly to you?!?!
you think 800 watts enough try 8,000. Yeah that will make some A9's sing. and you'll go deaf in seconds...fantastic. -
Batteries. They need lots -- and lots -- of batteries.
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mhardy6647 wrote: »Batteries. They need lots -- and lots -- of batteries.
Or ..... using the "Build Subs Using Sonotubes" principle, how about building Mega-Caps using ..... pipe culvert ? Store lots of energy that way.Sal Palooza -
Yeah, they can appropriate a mess of 1 uF caps from the crank-'em-up car stereo crowd and the era of fossil fuel dependence could be over...
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It's time to hook up a giant flywheel to a spare generator/motor. That should store some of the power nicely.
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It's sad because all that power is going to waste but it's kinda funny in an ironic sense.
Here's what happens when they are over sped:
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Note that it is one of the fiberglass blades that actually cuts the tower in two.:eek: -
Um...yeah, saw that before but the story wasn't about a failure. It was about the wind turbines producing more power than the grid could handle. The biggest criticism of wind power is that it's "low capacity" and here it is over-powering the grid. That's the "funny" and "ironic" part. The sad part is that we have to idle the wind turbines in favor of the dirtier power production facilities.
And the Fiberglas blade didn't cut the tower in two. The tower broke at a junction point. The blade made the big blade shaped bend and dent in the tower.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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The was an exception caused by the high winds of a storm. Apparently, it never occurred to anyone that storms do occur, and the increased wind speed might possibly create more power than normal. It does appear there needs to be a way to store this energy.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Efficient energy storage has long been a huge desire for power companies, even before the green movement. I won't state this as fact because everytime I do I'm told I'm wrong, but I have heard that it's actually more inefficient for some types of power plants to "slow down" production at night and ramp back up in the morning so they just run at full capacity 24/7 and the unused power just goes to waste.If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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The was an exception caused by the high winds of a storm. Apparently, it never occurred to anyone that storms do occur, and the increased wind speed might possibly create more power than normal. It does appear there needs to be a way to store this energy.
Oh, they thought about it... that's why wind tower rotors have brakes and adjustable vanes.
If you design the infrastructure for what the wind turbines could POSSIBLY put out when there's a TON of them at TOP speed, you'd be way overbuilding. This is not a common occurance where a large number of turbines suddenly get ramped to top speed all at once.Ludicrous gibs!
