It Blowed Up

JimKellyfan

Sony STR-DN1000
I know, I know, I should have listened.
By the way, I forgot.
What model and type should I be buying ?

Here is my chat start with Sony online:
Problem: inoperable, shut off during play, purchased new and have warranty until 09/18/11, however, am concerned that unit is not good enough as discussed in beginning. want to upgrade to model that will perform as advertised. Pretty upset.

ehh, what's another 380 amongst friends ?
plus actual cost of real receiver.

( for Sony people, we all know I am going nowhere, will have to send unit in, and will get an even higher grade mediocrity piece )

( dam it, this is not the evening I wanted to have with company over, having my stereo blow up ( shut off ).
Output transistors do smell like toast after :>0
It at least could have really blown up kapow, that would have been way more cool. Or at least a buncha smoke or something.

Anywho, what do you all recommend based on speaker selections I have ?

Thanks.

JimKellyfan

absolutely
I accidentally left it on max for awhile
Foo Fighters jamming

JimKellyfan

speakers sounded great
stereo merely shut off
but, was pretty darn hot when hand placed over top
toasted output transistors, I believe

JimKellyfan

yes, it was max, 73, I believe
I do not normally listen that loud, only on occasion or show off of my set up
some show off, huh ?
Onkyo 3 digit models good ?
608, 708 and so on ?

cstmar01

I wouldn't recommend ever running your system to the max, you were also probably clipping your speakers which can also harm them. Next time keep it down a bit, if you have a good system people don't need it at MAX to enjoy it.

polkatese

I wonder how much distortion gets through at that listening level and how could you tell the difference between vocals and hiss?

cstmar01

polkatese wrote: »

I wonder how much distortion gets through at that listening level and how could you tell the difference between vocals and hiss?

good point, and if its rock, I would think it would just sound like a bunch of just blah....if I wanted that, I would attend a concert and firmly but gently place my head against a speaker and wait for myself to go deaf, yep that would do it.

snow

I know this is going to sound like im being an a$$hol3 here but.... my personal oppinion is that if you played your receiver at max till it died you got exactly what you deserved and it is my fervent wish that Sony will not honor the warranty due to abuse, perhaps that will teach you a little respect for your gear.

That out of the way I hope you get your tunes back soon

REGARDS SNOW

JimKellyfan

oh, it was loud as hell, but clear and no hiss and no distorting, through the entire listening curve.
just another example of what I was told in that to not get a receiver based on wpc claims, as it claimed 110 wpc x 7
It, I believe never achieved that, as I never had any distortion, not a drop.
The only issue ever, was from the PSW10, when going from music to TV, I would have to turn it down, to accommodate. However, that does not depend on the receivers output, as you know.
But, agreed, let my personal max be 63, not 73, as the difference between is negligible on the current set up.
It blew up around 9:15 pm, and my ears are still ringing.
But hey, I had friends over, we were jamming and eating birthday cake.
63, new max, once fixed.
Or, if I can get an upgraded model, stay below actual max. Noted.

customer service @ Sony, stated I may be able to upgrade, but they need to see the receiver at an authorized center, and we go from there
I am 2 years parts and labor on it, and I bought it on 09/18/09, however, I am ready for an upgrade, obviously.
I have never blown any stereo ever, so junk it definitely is in Yoda-esk terms.
I have an old Pioneer I paid 180 for and abused 1000 times more, but that is usual.

At least, for now, on an unrelated note, the Gulf is no longer leaking oil, so some good has come out of tonight.
hoorah

Onkyo
three digit
any other recommends ?

JimKellyfan

snow wrote: »

I know this is going to sound like im being an a$$hol3 here but.... my personal oppinion is that if you played your receiver at max till it died you got exactly what you deserved and it is my fervent wish that Sony will not honor the warranty due to abuse, perhaps that will teach you a little respect for your gear.

That out of the way I hope you get your tunes back soon

REGARDS SNOW

wOw
I did play at max before ok.
But yes, agreed, stay 10 below actual max
we were drinking, so

But one thing for sure, the Polk's sounded clear and great, and am sure they will still after new or repaired unit is back up and running

and just like many of us out there, I have 4 other units to take it's place if need be, but prefer not as the others are aged:cool:

snow

JimKellyfan wrote: »

oh, it was loud as hell, but clear and no hiss and no distorting, through the entire listening curve.
just another example of what I was told in that to not get a receiver based on wpc claims, as it claimed 110 wpc x 7
It, I believe never achieved that, as I never had any distortion, not a drop.

I have never blown any stereo ever, so junk it definitely is in Yoda-esk terms.
I have an old Pioneer I paid 180 for and abused 1000 times more, but that is usual.

Let me get this straight you think that since it didnt sound distorted before it blew up that it never reached is 110 wpc rating? and that you have abused other gear 1000 times worse? so it's a piece of crap?

First off to reach a 110 wpc is very easy to do during listening even at reasonable listening levels. You ever hear of something called transients that occur during all listening sessions? From what I can tell the Sony receiver you were using is a mid line receiver that sells for around $350.00-$400.00 new it was never designed to play at max, just like most cars just because they may have a 140 mph speedometer is no sign that they were actually designed to drive that fast safely even for short periods of time.

That doesnt make your receiver junk it makes you irresponsible for showing off with something that wasnt designed for this type of perfomance.

JimKellyfan wrote: »

wOw
I did play at max before ok.
But yes, agreed, stay 10 below actual max
we were drinking, so

I have 4 other units to take it's place if need be, but prefer not as the others are aged:cool:

Thats where the biggest problem was I think, you were drinking and as we all know sometimes when we drink good
judgement is not present.

And just because you got away with doing it before is no sign that you were going to again.

I am happy that you have other units so you wont be without music though.

Hey I know I sound like a hardass but im an old man and thats what old guys act like when they see audio gear being abused

REGARDS SNOW

JimKellyfan

Agreed.
I did pull out of the back office, my old 5.1 Sony, and hook everything up and all sound well.
In fact, they sound very well.
So no speaker issues.
Just irresponsible drinking thinking.
I fully agree, my new max after this is fixed is 63 ( 10 shy of real max ).

For awhile though, we did feel like that Memorex dude.
Judging by the heat coming off of the receiver just after implosion, I would have been better served with a fan on it.
Instead of running the fan test, I will just refrain from max.
But, I had to hook up the speakers to test all, as I wanted to definitely rule that out before taking my stereo in.
All Monitors and the R150's are alive, ever clear and well.

cstmar01

Also just an fyi and it just bugged me. your title should be It BLEW Up not blowed up....

AsSiMiLaTeD

63 is too loud as well, no offense but you need to take better care of your stuff...

AsSiMiLaTeD

cstmar01 wrote: »

Also just an fyi and it just bugged me. your title should be It BLEW Up not blowed up....

I think we waived bye bye to proper grammar around here a LONG time ago.

heiney9

JimKellyFan, you weren't dropped on your head at anytime, were you?

H9

cfrizz

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

63 is too loud as well, no offense but you need to take better care of your stuff...

heiney9 wrote: »

JimKellyFan, you weren't dropped on your head at anytime, were you?

H9

What they said! If you keep this up, not only will you continue to blow up perfectly good equipment, you are also going to do irreparable damage to your hearing.

Then again that would be a blessing to the gear!:rolleyes:

inspiredsports

If you take a 300K Ferrari or Lambo out on the track and redline it in third gear for just a short period of time you can end up with the same result; major destruction.

Ease back on the throttle and enjoy the music (not just a massive db level) when the repaired or new amp arrives

JimKellyfan

heiney9 wrote: »

JimKellyFan, you weren't dropped on your head at anytime, were you?

H9

yeah, why ?

( in a Chris Farley tone )

It Blowed Up, was actually taken from many races I have heard.

Another good few from Nascar are:
The motor went south ( motors are electric )
It gets looser
boogity, boogity boogity ?
and so on, forever, as they keep allowing drivers and crew chiefs in the broadcasting booth

merely a play on words was all

sda2mike

maybe you should get a 'drinking too much' system...then have the self-control to move your drunken arse from the 'prized' system, to the one for abuse...and abusers:D

JimKellyfan

Naw, I'll have the wits to rethink next time around.
As I stated, I thought no distortion was ok to keep going.
A fan on it or a lower actual max would have worked.
So, lower actual max will win.
Drinking is not a frequent thing for me, either.

danger boy

get another receiver. one with pre outs. and then get yourself a 2 channel amp for your front speakers.. and that will help is this happening again. and turn that **** down.

dudeinaroom

If your getting another Sony don't take that thing over half if you are going to listen for long periods of time. I have seen a few blow up, running around half volume for long periods of time. The only time I like seeing a Sony receiver is when it is in the trash. I have no experience with their ES line, so I don't know it they are worth it or not. Good luck with the next one.

Norm Apter

cstmar01 wrote: »

Also just an fyi and it just bugged me. your title should be It BLEW Up not blowed up....

I was going to write the same thing. When I see improper usage like that, I feel kind of nauseous. Perhaps it triggers some painful memories associated with grading papers in the past

Anyway, carrry on :cool:

mdaudioguy

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

63 is too loud as well, no offense but you need to take better care of your stuff...

I don't think it's going to matter. He won't be able to hear it anyhow.
I could not bear to crank any of my gear to full volume. (And I do like it loud on occasion.)

JimKellyfan wrote: »

Drinking is not a frequent thing for me, either.

Good. Some receivers have a max volume level that you can set in their menu. Suggest you do that while sober. It's usually buried far enough in the menu so that you'll never be able to find it when drinking.

cstmar01

mdaudioguy wrote: »

I don't think it's going to matter. He won't be able to hear it anyhow.
I could not bear to crank any of my gear to full volume. (And I do like it loud on occasion.)



Good. Some receivers have a max volume level that you can set in their menu. Suggest you do that while sober. It's usually buried far enough in the menu so that you'll never be able to find it when drinking.

I was going to suggest this as well. Also helpful if you have friends over that want to "blast" your system or sit on a remote at a party and it gets cranked as high as it will go.

gdb

Two very old words, in use in America for about a century.

1. Motorcar
2. Motorcycle


Motors......they're not just electric.:)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor