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Jstas
Jstas Posts: 14,808
edited July 2010 in The Clubhouse
From Slashdot:

Sound As The New Illegal Narcotic?

ehrichweiss writes "The Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics is warning parents and teachers of a new threat to our children: sounds. Apparently kids are now discovering binaural beats and using them to get 'physiological effects.' The report goes on with everyone suggesting that such aural experiences will act as a gateway to drug usage and even has one student claiming there are 'demons' involved. Anyone who has used one of those light/sound machines knows all about the effects that these sounds will give and to state that they will lead kids to do drugs is nonsense at best. It seems the trend in scaring the citizens with a made-up problem has gone to the next level."

And now the original article on Wired:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/digital-drugs/
From Wired:

Report: Teens Using Digital Drugs to Get High

* By Ryan Singel Email Author
* July 14, 2010 |
* 4:14 pm |
* Categories: The Ridiculous, Threats
*

Kids around the country are getting high on the internet, thanks to MP3s that induce a state of ecstasy. And it could be a gateway drug leading teens to real-world narcotics.

At least, that’s what Oklahoma News 9 is reporting about a phenomenon called “i-dosing,” which involves finding an online dealer who can hook you up with “digital drugs” that get you high through your headphones.

And officials are taking it seriously.

“Kids are going to flock to these sites just to see what it is about and it can lead them to other places,” Oklahoma Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs spokesman Mark Woodward told News 9.

I-dosing involves donning headphones and listening to “music” — largely a droning noise — which the sites peddling the sounds promise will get you high. Teens are listening to such tracks as “Gates of Hades,” which is available on YouTube gratis (yes, the first one is always free).

Those who want to get addicted to the “drugs” can purchase tracks that will purportedly bring about the same effects of marijuana, cocaine, opium and peyote. While street drugs rarely come with instruction manuals, potential digital drug users are advised to buy a 40-page guide so that they learn how to properly get high on MP3s.

Oklahoma’s Mustang Public School district isn’t taking the threat lightly, and sent out a letter to parents warning them of the new craze. The educators have gone so far as to ban iPods at school, in hopes of preventing honor students from becoming cyber-drug fiends, News 9 reports.

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Here’s a video of one wholesome kid getting high — startlingly so — on an MP3:

***WARNING: There is language in this one...mainly because kids are idiots. So if profanity from the mouths of babes bothers you, don't play it. --- PSA provided by Jstas***

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We at Threat Level are stunned and have hundreds of questions.

Will future presidential candidates defend their i-dosing past by saying, “But I had it on mute”? Are we supposed to declare a war on cyberdrugs or a cyberwar on cyberdrugs? How will police know if a teen is with headphones on is i-dosing or just listening to Justin Bieber? Is the iPod the bong of the future? What would happen if some ne’er-do-well took over the console of the Super Bowl and dosed the entire country? What if kids smoked dried banana peels and listened to these trippy tunes at the same time — could they OD? What happens if someone sells a tainted MP3?

Perhaps most importantly, what will happen if the kids move onto harder stuff like Steve Reich, Philip Glass or even Janet Cardiff’s installation, “The Killing Machine“?

Here’s a sample of the heavy stuff that some light experimentation with drug drone music could lead to. (Note: The following video is only for informational purposes and should only be viewed by responsible adults.)

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Read More http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/07/digital-drugs/#ixzz0tlqmRzms


Sad, honestly.

Discuss as you may.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2010
    Discuss!?! Sounds like something Machina Dynamica would hawk!

    Agreed very sad.
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  • packetjones
    packetjones Posts: 1,059
    edited July 2010
    you know.... sometimes I am embarrassed to be from Oklahoma. I will just leave it at that.
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited July 2010
    uhhh what?????

    officer I swear, I was just listening to the backstreet boys...I wasn't listening to Trace...I swear... I love new kids on the block..

    Officer: son your in a world of hurt, I'm now going to take you to jail where you will be thrown into the general population with drug user and rapist so you can see what REAL drugs can do to someone...

    idiots....I love trance, techno, hardhouse, ect which I can almost bet is a lot of the type of music they are pawning as this. There is nothing wrong with getting a good feeling when listening to music, if I didn't have that as a kid..well I think I would be screwed today as that is what I looked forward to after a long night of studying.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,141
    edited July 2010
    Unbelieveable..

    I guess when my relaxation music starts to loose its power I will be searching out a guy on the corner for some ludes.:D
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited July 2010
    That article seem way to much like an article from the onion.

    That "music" is terrible and it just sounds like someone playing around with a tone generator. :(
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited July 2010
    I don't understand how this works. On the most basic level, drugs work from a chemical standpoint by affecting receptor sites in the body by blocking or overstimulating. I don't see how listening to certain tones will cause your auditory nerve to react in a similar way. I can understand if the music is just background noise while you're embibing, inhaling, ingesting, or sticking yourself with a needle, that's been going on forever even legally (e.g. beer + rock music), but I don't see how this works unless the old, "hey kid, want some candy?" has morphed into the 21st Century equivalent of "hey kid, want some mp3?" and free samples are given out along with a USB stick.

    Heck, at least go lossless. :rolleyes:

    One more thing. If you can get high from listening to music or sound, there'd be a lot more audiophiles.
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited July 2010
    Back in the mid-1980's Pete Townshend was in rehab for drug abuse. He discovered that playing certain tones on his synthesizer and guitar gave him relief from his addiction and helped him kick his habit.
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited July 2010
    So how are they going to regulate that one??????????????????????????
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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited July 2010
    sucks2beme wrote: »
    So how are they going to regulate that one??????????????????????????

    8 bit mp3, ban everything else.
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited July 2010
    I can see the theory- Think how you feel listening to blues vs heavy metal... You definately "feel" different... Most athelets have a "get pumped" set of tracks for their i-pod/listening device of choice.

    I just can't imagine it causing me to hallucinate and hump a cat like drugs might...
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited July 2010
    I don't see how someone can take that news report seriously. (Was it my computer, or were the audio and video out of sync? Which was funny in itself).


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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,953
    edited July 2010
    headrott wrote: »
    I don't see how someone can take that news report seriously. (Was it my computer, or were the audio and video out of sync? Which was funny in itself).


    Greg

    That can be said for alot of things, then before you know it,laws are passed banning this or that in a blink. I take nothing for granted anymore.
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  • 98Badger
    98Badger Posts: 317
    edited July 2010
    I don't know what's worse, the over-reaction or the delayed reaction. This stuff has been around for at least a few years.
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,808
    edited July 2010
    Actually, the ideas have been around since the 1830's I believe.


    Here's a Wikipedia article on Binaural tones.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats

    It seems to have some controversy associated with it but out of all the articles I've been looking at this one explains what they are and the concepts behind them the simplest. It also references most of the other documents I found on it so it aggregates the subject fairly well.
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  • punk-roc
    punk-roc Posts: 1,150
    edited July 2010
    There was a PBS special a while back about a Neurologist who was touting the positive effects of music on the brain.. There is research into how music can affect brain centers. This Neurologist conducted MRI's on people (or himself, can't remember) while they were listening to different types of music and was studying the various brain centers stimulated by the music..

    Sadly, this takes a simple truth (that music affects us! really?!?! who knew?!) and extrapolates it far beyond it deserves...

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  • j allen
    j allen Posts: 363
    edited July 2010
    I tried this after reading the article. All it did was make me slightly dizzy and give me a headache... I think that can be attributed to simply blaring awful sounding tones...
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  • Rev. Hayes
    Rev. Hayes Posts: 475
    edited July 2010
    headrott wrote: »
    I don't see how someone can take that news report seriously. (Was it my computer, or were the audio and video out of sync? Which was funny in itself).


    Greg


    This is just the first sign that you may have an i-dosing problem.

    :eek::p
    Sounds good to me...
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,212
    edited July 2010
    I just listened to Slayer's Reign in Blood and after the first few songs I found a knife in my hand (not sure how it got there) and a craving to kill something..
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  • j allen
    j allen Posts: 363
    edited July 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    I just listened to Slayer's Reign in Blood and after the first few songs I found a knife in my hand (not sure how it got there) and a craving to kill something..

    Proof positive! Or is Slayer just so awesome that you have to kill people who don't love them?
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited July 2010
    That's complete BS, music can't affect people that way...

    ...runs to hide all copies of DSOTM before they're confiscated...
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,212
    edited July 2010
    Now I just got done listening to the album Faith by George Michael, got out of my listening spot and my **** was hurting...

    These people might be on to something..
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  • woofiepaws
    woofiepaws Posts: 215
    edited July 2010
    Think I'll listen to Zappa's Joe's Garage and get ready for the onslaught.
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  • j allen
    j allen Posts: 363
    edited July 2010
    As further evidence against this case, Doctor Feelgood didn't get me into drugs or random sex. It wasn't until I was done doing all that crap that I got into that album.
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited July 2010
    Here you go. there is really no music, this wouldn't be considered anything I would ever listen to, and I'm big into eletronica, this is just a stupid wave over and over then goes higher....just gives me a headache, or wait maybe thats me having a withdrawal...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en1asB1haQM
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited July 2010
    Where's Tipper Gore when you need her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    If you can't hear a difference, don't waste your money.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,046
    edited July 2010
    "Those who want to get addicted to the “drugs” can purchase tracks that will purportedly bring about the same effects of marijuana, cocaine, opium and peyote. While street drugs rarely come with instruction manuals, potential digital drug users are advised to buy a 40-page guide so that they learn how to properly get high on MP3s."

    This is the dumbest thing I have heard of in my life.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited July 2010
    I remember just enough to get myself in trouble, but it seems to me there were rock bands in the mid-seventies accused of playing beats during live concerts that could positively (or negatively) affect heart rates and moods.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,474
    edited July 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    For a minute there I thought this thread was going to be about Audioholics.

    Carry on.... :rolleyes:

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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2010
    Keiko wrote: »
    For a minute there I thought this thread was going to be about Audioholics.

    Carry on.... :rolleyes:

    Gold Jerry Gold!:D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited July 2010
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    Now I just got done listening to the album Faith by George Michael, got out of my listening spot and my **** was hurting...

    These people might be on to something..

    ROTFLMAO!!!:eek::eek::eek:
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