Audiogon Bidding

heiney9
heiney9 Posts: 25,164
edited July 2010 in The Clubhouse
I have never used the bidding system on Audiogon. What's the best way to bid on an item there? I know they have their own Proxy bidding system just like Ebay, but can one use a service like E-snipe with the same results as you would get on Ebay.

I'm bidding on a pair of tubes and I really need to make sure I'm doing it correctly. Any tips greatly appreciated.

H9
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,726
    edited July 2010
    No, they are true auctions. As long as someone keeps bidding, they will keep extending the auction to give bidders a chance. Best bet is to just bid the amount you are willing to spend. I'd probably wait until sometime in the last hour, but don't bother trying to wait to the last minute or anything.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,164
    edited July 2010
    So the "time left" in the auction isn't the true time left? Or does that number change as bids are added?

    So I should just use their proxy system with my maximum bid I'm willing to pay and hope I win?

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2010
    Bid at the last minute, watch the auction's time extend, then hope no one else bids.

    I've used it once, wouldn't use it again unless it was something I really wanted.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,164
    edited July 2010
    They are more obscure tubes I'm bidding on that aren't FS too often. They shouldn't go for too much as they are old computer tubes, but they are in demand in the right application. I already have 2 prs but I thought if I could get these cheap it would be worth it to have a 3rd since I like the way they sound. But I'm not paying top $$$ for them.

    So Mike, are you saying not to use the proxy system and just manually bid at the last minute?

    H9
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  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited July 2010
    Heiney -

    I've seen auctions listed as - OT - Overtime, so they do extend. I can't comment on bid proxy's.

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  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited July 2010
    Bid the top proxy you want to go on the tubes. If there is any active bidding in the 5 minutes prior to the bid closing then time is extended to allow any interested parties to continue to bid. As long as there are active bidding the time continues to be extended until the activity stops for a least five minutes (not exactly sure on this time frame). Just be aware that if you bid in the last minutes this opens up additional time for others. You cannot bid at the last moment and have your bid be the last because time runs out.
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