Outlaw Audio Model 7700 7-Channel 300 wpc Amplifier.

be83663
be83663 Posts: 192
edited March 2014 in Speakers
Does anyone currently own an Outlaw Audio Model 7700 7-Channel Amplifier?
If so, how is the sound quality and do you recommend it to others?
It is over two grands, and I wonder if I should consider Parasound A 52 5-Channel amplifier instead, even though it is only 5 channels and 225 wpc, as supposed to the Outlaw's 300 wpc, and they both are priced around $2,200.
Thanks for the feedbacks. :confused::)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited June 2010
    I'd take the Parasound over anything that Outlaw makes. It's a much better amplifier.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • LessisNevermore
    LessisNevermore Posts: 1,519
    edited June 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I'd take the Parasound over anything that Outlaw makes. It's a much better amplifier.

    What do you think makes it a better amplifier to you?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited June 2010
    It's built better and sounds better......simple.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • be83663
    be83663 Posts: 192
    edited June 2010
    Thanks for the inputs.
    I will look into Parasound A 52 more in depth then. ;)

    Any other suggestions for other amplifiers in $2,200 range for 5- or 7-Channel amplifiers would be appreciated! :)
    Thanks in advance.
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  • praedet
    praedet Posts: 314
    edited June 2010
    dorokusai wrote:
    I'd take the Parasound over anything that Outlaw makes. It's a much better amplifier.
    Just a quesion, since the Parasound is SOOOO much better to you, who makes the Outlaw, and where is it made?

    To the OP, the Outlaw 7700 is 200 by 7, the 7900 is 300 by 7...
    HT: Ninja Master LSi9s, Ninja Master LSiC, Slightly Modded LSiFXs, Modded LSi7s, Outlaw LFM-1 EX and Polk PSW125
    Outlaw 970 Preamp, Outlaw 7700 Amp, Velodyne SMS-1, Oppo BDP-83,
    2 APC H-15s and a Panamax 5400 for good measure ;)
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited June 2010
    Email Parasound, I'm not your teacher. I just go by what I know and have personally owned. YMMV and I have no vested interest in either so it doesn't matter in the end. I noticed you own an Outlaw amplifier, awesome but you can't expect everyone to fawn over it.

    I've owned awful gear, gear that has been made fun of, gear that has been classified as horrible, decisions that have been questioned by the closest of friends, who cares...its just electronics and opinion. Relax. F them, go with what sounds best to you and works in your rig.

    Why didn't you rebuild your own xovers? Isn't it kinda the same answer?
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited June 2010
    nobody likes their baby call ugly.........

    I like Parasound, B&K, NAD, possibly consider a two-channel and a five channel, or even just a quality 2 channel if you have an A/V to handle the other channels.

    RT1
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  • marly421
    marly421 Posts: 73
    edited June 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    I'd take the Parasound over anything that Outlaw makes. It's a much better amplifier.

    I'd take the Outlaw over anything that Parasound makes. It's a much better amplifier. Because I said SO!:cool:
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited June 2010
    be83663 wrote: »
    Any other suggestions for other amplifiers in $2,200 range for 5- or 7-Channel amplifiers would be appreciated! :)
    Thanks in advance.



    I'd take the SUNFIRE Cinema Grand Signature over anything that Parasound/Outlaw makes. It's a much better amplifier.:D





    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101645



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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited June 2010
    Parasound by far. I have owned both.
    Sharp Elite 70
    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
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  • praedet
    praedet Posts: 314
    edited June 2010
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Email Parasound, I'm not your teacher. I just go by what I know and have personally owned. YMMV and I have no vested interest in either so it doesn't matter in the end. I noticed you own an Outlaw amplifier, awesome but you can't expect everyone to fawn over it.

    I've owned awful gear, gear that has been made fun of, gear that has been classified as horrible, decisions that have been questioned by the closest of friends, who cares...its just electronics and opinion. Relax. F them, go with what sounds best to you and works in your rig.

    Why didn't you rebuild your own xovers? Isn't it kinda the same answer?
    I did have a Parsound amp...
    The 7700 is made by ATI, in California.

    I did my own crossovers in the LSi7s, point to point. I was offered the Ninja upgrade for the cost of parts to be the "Prototype." I did't realize that was a bad thing...

    Honestly I was just asking If you had heard one and knew...
    HT: Ninja Master LSi9s, Ninja Master LSiC, Slightly Modded LSiFXs, Modded LSi7s, Outlaw LFM-1 EX and Polk PSW125
    Outlaw 970 Preamp, Outlaw 7700 Amp, Velodyne SMS-1, Oppo BDP-83,
    2 APC H-15s and a Panamax 5400 for good measure ;)
    Stereo: DIY Alix Music Server, DODD Audio Battery Tube Buffer, Modded DAC-60 and MF V-Link (for now), DIY Silver ICs, Battery Powered Class D SDS-254 Amp, and GR-Research N2X Speakers
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  • be83663
    be83663 Posts: 192
    edited July 2010
    Thanks for all the inputs.
    I went with Outlaw 7700 Model 7-Channel Amp for 300 wpc at 4 ohms.
    It has only been three days since I started using it with my 7.2 LSi setup, but so far I love the difference it has brought over to my Home Theatre System! The sound is so clear and mid and upper ranges that I hear things that I did not hear before.

    I will be happy for the next 10-20 years with this amp! :)

    I really think it is a good money for value amp that I decided to go with.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
    edited July 2010
    Bernal wrote: »
    I'd take the SUNFIRE Cinema Grand Signature over anything that Parasound/Outlaw makes. It's a much better amplifier.:D





    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101645



    .

    Gotta give the nod here to the Sunfire as well. You can get the TGA 7400 for that same price range these days as well. Audiogon is your friend.:)
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited July 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    Gotta give the nod here to the Sunfire as well. You can get the TGA 7400 for that same price range these days as well. Audiogon is your friend.:)

    And you won't give yourself a hernia putting it into place!:eek: My 5 channel Sunfire only weighs 43lbs, and the TGA-7401 weighs 46lbs.:D

    The Outlaw 7700 is 93lbs & the 7900 weighs in at 145lbs!:eek::eek::eek::eek:
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • Bobsama
    Bobsama Posts: 526
    edited July 2010
    cfrizz wrote: »
    And you won't give yourself a hernia putting it into place!:eek: My 5 channel Sunfire only weighs 43lbs, and the TGA-7401 weighs 46lbs.:D

    The Outlaw 7700 is 93lbs & the 7900 weighs in at 145lbs!:eek::eek::eek::eek:

    Weight isn't everything (though it is a lot of things, such as heavy). :p

    That said, you can't solely judge an amplifier on its weight. Check out Audiogon or AudioClassics for used gear.
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited July 2010
    Weight is EVERYTHING when you can't lift the damn thing! My limit is 40-50lbs. I don't care how great it will sound, if I can't move it, I'm not buying it.
    Marantz AV-7705 PrePro, Classé 5 channel 200wpc Amp, Oppo 103 BluRay, Rotel RCD-1072 CDP, Sony XBR-49X800E TV, Polk S60 Main Speakers, Polk ES30 Center Channel, Polk S15 Surround Speakers SVS SB12-NSD x2
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  • be83663
    be83663 Posts: 192
    edited July 2010
    I looked at Sunfire's two most recent amplifiers, TGA-7401 and TGA-7201, both 7-Channel Amps with 800 wpc and 400 wpc in 4-Ohms, respectively. 7401 for around $3500 and 7201 for around $2500 from Independentaudiovideo.com.

    I noticed that both Sunfire's Amps are light and very powerful, because of their patented Tracking Downconverter, "a device that previews the signal to determine how much power it will require, then provides precisely that amount of juice, nothing more, nothing less".

    My question is, their THD is "less than 0.5%". But, just comparing TGA-7201 with similar Power output of 200 wpc at 8-Ohms to Outlaw's Model 7700, I noticed that the 7201's THD is 17 times higher than Outlaw Model 7700's THD of 0.03%.

    Does that mean that the sound is clearer and purer in Outlaw amplifier than the Sunfire's? :confused:

    Thanks. :)
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  • TouchOfEvil
    TouchOfEvil Posts: 967
    edited July 2010
    cfrizz wrote: »
    Weight is EVERYTHING when you can't lift the damn thing! My limit is 40-50lbs. I don't care how great it will sound, if I can't move it, I'm not buying it.

    sissy.:p
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited July 2010
    be83663 wrote: »
    I looked at Sunfire's two most recent amplifiers, TGA-7401 and TGA-7201, both 7-Channel Amps with 800 wpc and 400 wpc in 4-Ohms, respectively. 7401 for around $3500 and 7201 for around $2500 from Independentaudiovideo.com.

    I noticed that both Sunfire's Amps are light and very powerful, because of their patented Tracking Downconverter, "a device that previews the signal to determine how much power it will require, then provides precisely that amount of juice, nothing more, nothing less".

    My question is, their THD is "less than 0.5%". But, just comparing TGA-7201 with similar Power output of 200 wpc at 8-Ohms to Outlaw's Model 7700, I noticed that the 7201's THD is 17 times higher than Outlaw Model 7700's THD of 0.03%.

    Does that mean that the sound is clearer and purer in Outlaw amplifier than the Sunfire's? :confused:

    Thanks. :)

    I wouldn't worry about it. I'm sure both are well below anything we can actually hear. Either amp will power your speakers beautifully.
    TouchOfEvil wrote: »
    sissy.:p

    No, I'd say I'm smart. I don't feel the stupid compulsion to wrench my insides out trying to prove how macho or strong I am. I'm smart enough to know that I have limits & I'm not going to hurt myself going way over them.

    This is why we out live you, we think with our brains, not our hormones!:p
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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited July 2010
    No, I'd say I'm smart. I don't feel the stupid compulsion to wrench my insides out trying to prove how macho or strong I am. I'm smart enough to know that I have limits & I'm not going to hurt myself going way over them.

    This is why we out live you, we think with our brains, not our hormones!
    ^This^
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,001
    edited March 2014
    Long winter gents ?
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,655
    edited March 2014
    Nope...the druggie troll is just phishing again. Apparently, the rehab center has uncorked their internet for the day.
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    edited March 2014
    smfh..the internet where everyone is a badass. So funny.
    Oh, Listen here mister. We got no way of understandin' this world. But we got as much sense of this bird flyin in the sky. Now there is a lot that bird don't know, but it don't change the fact that the world is happening to him all the same. What I am tryin to say is, is that the course of your life, well its changing, and you don't even see it- Forest Bondurant
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,461
    edited March 2014
    djwest78 wrote: »
    What a TOOL!
    LOL F1Nut is for sure, the TALLEST MIDGET.

    You sir, are well on your way to building life-long friendships here. Make certain you close the door behind you when you leave.


    ***edit... cannot believe the mods allowed him to stay after his LSi( thread, what a riot that was!:lol:

    More fun watching that than PFB attending a UPS convention!
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    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,661
    edited March 2014
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    You sir, are well on your way to building life-long friendships here. Make certain you close the door behind you when you leave.

    I think the door may be closed(slammed shut) for him! I just hope his fingers don't get in the way, but I do not care if the do:smile:
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    drummer86 Posts: 441
    edited March 2014
    http://www.avsforum.com/t/1462438/please-rate-the-deal-that-i-just-got-on-these-speakers

    I believe "I've spent more money on Polk that you ever will" was the quote from his last thread. I'm paraphrasing here. Also, seeing him get scolded on another forum for EXCESSIVE USE OF CAPS is quite... ironic.
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