Bi-wired
Mike Kozak
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Well I just bi-wired my monitor 70s to my Onkyo 7.1 receiver. It does not sound any different. My guess is that the 75wpc x7 channels is not enough to really drive them even if I have the receiver in stereo mode. It is not a powerful unit, maybe I should hook up the speakers to my Technics SA-600. Ut sems to have a lot more punch. Any thoughts. By the way, I have to crank the volume almost all the way to even get some decent volume out of this rig, but with movies, it is super loud and clear.
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Well, we have said many a times that bi-wireing off a receiver is a waste. Your still sharing the same power supply and most receivers don't have the current needed to make a difference.HT SYSTEM-
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I've read that bi-wiring really doesn't make much of an audible difference. Like Tony pointed out, the speakers are still sharing the same power source. Bi-amping is where you'll hear a more noticeable effect.
What about in the case of a cable something like a bi-wire version of Signal Cable's Silver Resolution, where the silver is separated at the speaker end from the copper? Could this not theoretically give that last bit of detail on the top end-from the silver wire, and maintain the solid bass response of the copper?
I've often wanted to try that config. with my LSi's, and missed out on a great price on a pair in the FM. [/KICKME] These MIT's are being enjoyed, though, I will say......... -
Yea, I need to bi-amp them, so I un bi-wired them and they still sound the same. As soon as I get another job I am going to save up for a 7 channel emotiva with plenty of power.
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Yeah, everyone's hearing is different.
My Monitor 60's bi-amped, I like that better.
I would describe it as more full, especially when cranked.
But, that's my ears, and my current set up, anyway.Onkyo TX-NR636
Main - polkaudio Monitor 60's
Center - polkaudio CSI A6
Sub - polkaudio PSW10
Sub2 - polkaudio PSW505
Surrounds - polkaudio Monitor 40 series II
Front Height - polkaudio Monitor 40's
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LessisNevermore wrote: »What about in the case of a cable something like a bi-wire version of Signal Cable's Silver Resolution, where the silver is separated at the speaker end from the copper? Could this not theoretically give that last bit of detail on the top end-from the silver wire, and maintain the solid bass response of the copper?
I've often wanted to try that config. with my LSi's, and missed out on a great price on a pair in the FM. [/KICKME] These MIT's are being enjoyed, though, I will say.........
I found some speaker wire that is one strand silver and one copper, 14awg. I like it so far. It said to connect the silver to neg term and copper to the pos.
Sounds good so far!Polk RTi A7's FrontPolk CSi A4 CenterPolk Tsi 100's SurroundOnkyo TX-RZ50:)Oppo BDP 83 (Collecting dust)MIT Terminator 3 Speaker CableMIT Terminator 2 IC's (Oppo 2 chan)Signal Cable HT TWOEpson PowerLite Home Cinema 1080Hisense 55 U8GBelkin PF 60 Power Center -
I've read that bi-wiring really doesn't make much of an audible difference. Like Tony pointed out, the speakers are still sharing the same power source. Bi-amping is where you'll hear a more noticeable effect.
Try MIT bi-wire speaker cables, any model, and then tell me they don't make an audible difference.
I do agree with bi-wiring off a receiver one would be hard pressed to hear a difference. -
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Mike Kozak wrote: »Yea, I need to bi-amp them, so I un bi-wired them and they still sound the same. As soon as I get another job I am going to save up for a 7 channel emotiva with plenty of power.
If that floats your boat, but imho anyway, the coin would be better spent on upgrading the 70's. The monitors are so easy to drive, that better sound quality per dollar spent would yield better results by moving up the chain.HT SYSTEM-
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Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
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If that floats your boat, but imho anyway, the coin would be better spent on upgrading the 70's. The monitors are so easy to drive, that better sound quality per dollar spent would yield better results by moving up the chain.
Bingo! At least in lieu of bi-wiring. A 7 channel amp isn't going to help either if you are planning on bi-amping or bi-wiring. Bi-amping off the rear channels of an 7 channel amp isn't really bi-amping (sometimes referred to ghetto bi-amping) and probably won't yield the same performance improvement as using separate amps as the 7 channel amp uses the same power supply (in most cases) for all channels. That's the short, condensed version.;) -
Short..condensed version Joe?? That was longer than mine.:p:D:DHT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Short..condensed version Joe?? That was longer than mine.:p:D:D
Hahaha, there's a lot more involved and that can be described . . .
