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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2003
    I have 4 kicker 18" subs I got real cheap for my HT. Never hooked up more than 2 at a time because it hurt too bad! Two of them in a down firing position almost broke my knees on a bass heavy passage. Seriously!
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited June 2003
    Powered by what? And how did they SOUND?
    Always wondered how good car subs would sound for ht!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by scottvamp
    Come on - admit it - yall feel better. I just posted and BAM - your all over it. Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

    Im 'all over' your posts because its directed to me lame ****$. Scott, you stop posting about me, and bragging all the time - ill leave your posts alone. My only reason to be 'all over' your post. Scott, by the way - My last dream, is to have a system like urs........
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited June 2003
    Your still young and have your whole like to get your dream rig.
    Even when my post has nothing to do with you - you have to visit.
    You can't resist.;)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by scottvamp
    Your still young and have your whole like to get your dream rig.
    Even when my post has nothing to do with you - you have to visit.
    You can't resist.;)

    Whatever, my Dream Rig - Consist of Adcom Amps, and Def Tech TOTL. Not your rig.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • LiquidSound
    LiquidSound Posts: 1,261
    edited June 2003
    This is just weird...
    Two Channel Main
    Receiver - VSX-54TX
    Mains - Csi40's
    Sub - Spiked Velodyne Cht-8 On Spiked Landscaping Stones

    "If you could put speakers in a needle, I'd never see him again..." - My Girlfriend
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited June 2003
    Your dreams are very shallow - to say the least. If your going to dream do better than mid end stuff. Really - KRELL
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited June 2003
    no, my dreams are right where I want them. I dont have the same priorities as you. Proud of that......
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • scottvamp
    scottvamp Posts: 3,277
    edited June 2003
    What priorities?????????????????
    Life is good!!!!!!!!
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited June 2003
    Jesus........at least when I'm arguing, it's actually about SOMEthing.
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,754
    edited June 2003
    Scott and Sid,

    Give it a rest, please.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by tryrrthg
    Where in Michigan are you from?

    I'm in a southern 'burb of Detroit. Click on my profile to E-mail if you want.
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,091
    edited June 2003
    Man, what a whip........

    I concur with F1

    I'm still trying to figure out how the spacing of the speakers has anything to do with the highs.....

    Reading this thread was like studying algebra.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by scottvamp
    Powered by what? And how did they SOUND?
    Always wondered how good car subs would sound for ht!

    As I said, I only tried two at the same time. Each 18" driver is in a sealed box which is about a 22" cube made of 1.5" MDF and braced like a SOB. Extremely solid. The area in the box sets the Q (damn, I forget what this parameter is really called) to 0.75 which keeps the cone very well controlled but rolls off quicker than the standard 0.72 (larger box) used for HT subs or 0.67 or so (even larger box) often used for HS subs. Because equalization is necessary to keep freq response flat it came with an Audio Control bass equalizer.

    I powered it with a Carver PT-1250 which outputs 625 watts per channel into 8 ohms or about 805 watts per channel into 4 ohms, which these speakers are. They can easily handle all the output from this monster amp!

    It sounded, well, loud and powerful. Think professional sound system in an arena type loud. Very scary. When the cones moved a tenth of an inch the windows started to worry me. At low levels it sounds great but seems to pressurize the house when turned up. Kinda like those competiton bass soundoffs for cars but in a house.

    The guy who designed the system was a maniac. I figure at some point I'll build them into my basement HT. Should provide some real nice explosions!:D

    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2003
    PS: I don't have a basement HT yet. Still just a dream and a lot of hard work ahead...

    I looked at the theater room in question again. No wonder he has the speakers so close together. It looks like if he put them closer to the side walls that everything would reflect off of them given his seating position. (because of the shape of the room).

    I see a couple of compromises here. He could line the left and right walls next to the screen with sound absorbant material or diffusers and move the speakers much closer to the corners. Given the shape here he really cannot toe them in any. Another alternative would be to move the speakers forward and wider apart. Still some side dressing would be reasonable. Too bad that damn wall has to be sticking out next to the screen. If that were not there it would be nice and easy. Personally I would probably be looking to see if turning the system around in the room made any sense.

    I like the guitars.

    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • redhouse
    redhouse Posts: 78
    edited June 2003
    I tried last night the moving them out to the side's, It sounded no better or worse. The room is L shaped the way it is now is preety much the only way it could go. The other side of the room has a wood burning stove and pattio doors leading out side. The front the way it is now was the only way to set it up for a great viewing area being that's the longest part of the room front to back. The walls were takin down and sound proffed because I have kids and a wife and let's just say no one wants to here Jimi Hendrix late at night playing all through the house. And for the Kicker subwoofer, I am telling you guys be it right or not it kick's **** and sounds great and in the studio as a studio guitar palyer we have done the same thing many of times you would not belive how many cd's you might own were there was a car sub somewhere in the recording.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited June 2003
    Probally in..........rap music maybe? What sounds good to you, sounds good to you. No one can deprive you of that.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • redhouse
    redhouse Posts: 78
    edited June 2003
    Rap yes but also Blues,jazz, and rock even heavey metal
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  • rs159
    rs159 Posts: 1,027
    edited June 2003
    440 views in two days, when I saw that I did a huge "HOLY ****". I feel special, thanks guys......

    Seriously, with that screen, is it possible to turn it sideways, maybe, so it's at a 45 degree angle to the corner? That way you could put the speakers where there would be little or no reflection from nearby walls. You sub could still be in the corner, so you wouldn't loose any bass. You also might open up some secondary veiwing positions in parts of the room that were blocked by that protrusion.

    BTW, how is that sub powered? If you're just running it off the "B" terminals of your receiver then I pray to the Holy Father that you crossed it over SOMEWHERE, you don't want symbols coming from the sub.



    Just trying to help, man. Don't take it too personally, but don't call other peoples systems "junk". That goes to a more personal level than "these are some things that might be robbing your system of it's potential..."
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by rs159



    Don't take it too personally, but don't call other peoples systems "junk"."




    I think we are already past this part , right?? :rolleyes:
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • rs159
    rs159 Posts: 1,027
    edited June 2003
    I'm sorry, I was a little late getting into this thread. Besides, I was just making a comparison.
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  • dthomps
    dthomps Posts: 352
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by rs159
    "......

    Seriously, with that screen, is it possible to turn it sideways, maybe, so it's at a 45 degree angle to the corner?

    ..."

    I think the way it is setup is the way it is staying is what our man Red was saying. That screen is painted on to the wall.


    Good luck with your system Redhouse.
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  • rs159
    rs159 Posts: 1,027
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by dthomps
    ... That screen is painted on to the wall.


    ...

    OK, I was afraid of that. I just skimmed through the posts, so sorry if I missed any details.
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  • redhouse
    redhouse Posts: 78
    edited June 2003
    It's powered, 300 watts from a self built face plate amp with a crossover. I found a speciality audio store in the south side of Chicago deals with mostly car audio stuff and big time sub's for home theater, he built me the amp for this subwoofer. Also thanks for the post's it seems like there's alot of cool people on this site.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,782
    edited June 2003
    There is, theres not many bad people on here. We will help you with your system, u just cant slam everyone elses ya know? Enjoy da rig
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • rs159
    rs159 Posts: 1,027
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by madmax001
    ... At low levels it sounds great but seems to pressurize the house when turned up. ...
    madmax

    What would you call that, house gain?


    Hifi Glossary

    House Gain - Low frequency boost that occurs when your subs are such stupidly effin huge monstrosities they fill your house.
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    u just cant slam everyone elses ya know?shamless edit: or i will say this over and over

    :D:D:D:D

    We have gotten past this point my son,

    Kidding of course
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited June 2003
    Originally posted by rs159
    What would you call that, house gain?


    Hifi Glossary

    House Gain - Low frequency boost that occurs when your subs are such stupidly effin huge monstrosities they fill your house.

    Gain, house gain, freakin gain, pure pain...

    What can I say, the whole system minus amps was $275. Had to try it. Did I call the designer a maniac? What is 10 steps above that? BTW, one driver retailed for $475. How about brain gain? Like I say, I'm looking forward to some good explosions. The biggest problem will be to keep the neighbors from reporting a terrorist attack after the first movie...
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited June 2003
    There are a number of DIYers out there that suggest using JL-Audio car subs.
    Make it Funky! :)
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