Sunfire power meter question

Grasshopper1
Grasshopper1 Posts: 4
edited June 2010 in Electronics
Please part with your knowledge and help the helpless out,I've done some searching and don't seem to be able to find an answer. My sunfire Grand Cinema power meter is always on 400 joules when powered up. This seems to be normal but I don't understand why or the purpose thereof. Is the meter intended to stay here and not move from this position? If so what good is it? Thanks for your help.
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited May 2010
    Meter
    The front panel meter indicates the total energy available from the tracking
    downconverter power supply. It is calibrated in Joules and will normally indicate approximately 480 Joules for the Signature Edition and 400 Joules for the Standard Edition. Note that it does not move under normal use.
    :D


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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited May 2010
    Welcome to The Club...
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited May 2010
    Welcome Grasshopper. That is the normal operation when on. It does NOT bounce around. It's purpose is to have "audiophiles" point it out to friends to say "isn't this cool?" LOL.;):D

    Sit back & enjoy the tunes.:)
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited May 2010
    cfrizz wrote: »
    welcome grasshopper. That is the normal operation when on. It does not bounce around. it's purpose is to have "audiophiles" point it out to friends to say "isn't this cool?" lol.;):d

    sit back & enjoy the tunes.:)

    +1 :)
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,599
    edited May 2010
    I read somewhere if the needle moves,Which is HIGHLY doubtfull with any known speakers, you might want to switch to more efficient speakers or check the wiring. And also, I think the amp should trip your breaker before the needle moves.

    I think Bob Carver just didn't know how to meter with watts the current that flows through, not from, his amp design.

    I drive my 4 ohm SRS's with one and it just stays above room temp. All day long, day after day it just amazes me.

    These SRS's would heat my Integra M502 to stove top med. high tempertures in no time at all.
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.

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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited May 2010
    I & several others wish Bob had put output meters on the Sunfire amps....ah well. They do put out PRODIGIOUS current~
    TNRabbit
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,599
    edited May 2010
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    I & several others wish Bob had put output meters on the Sunfire amps....ah well. They do put out PRODIGIOUS current~

    I agree. Watt meters to watch like on the Onkyo Integra M504's.:D:D
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.

    “Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”
    --Mark Twain.

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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited May 2010
    I have the newer TGA-5200 model but will agree with you Tony, mine never gets warm to touch either.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited May 2010
    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101645

    I have another Sunfire, it's cold in performance:D
    Exceptional sound
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  • Shannon W.
    Shannon W. Posts: 568
    edited May 2010
    Bernal wrote: »
    Meter
    The front panel meter indicates the total energy available from the tracking
    downconverter power supply. It is calibrated in Joules and will normally indicate approximately 480 Joules for the Signature Edition and 400 Joules for the Standard Edition. Note that it does not move under normal use.
    :D

    X2

    Shannon
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited June 2010
    So......you have it yet?
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited June 2010
    I have a sunfire sig II running carver amazing originals that dip down to 1 ohm and that are very inefficient. I only saw the meeter slightly move once during pink floyd welcome to the machine ( the beginning of that song) and when it moved,,, well both fuses pooped on the amazings LOL.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,599
    edited June 2010
    :rolleyes: I wonder what the desibel reading in your room was at.

    Awsome story.

    Another guy told me he had crown amps pushing 4 klipsch horns, and I'm sure they were under an influence of some kind, but when Pink Floyds arial dog fight song came to the explosion...His patio door shattered!:D Holy moly, crap my pants, that must have been awsome.:cool:
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.

    “Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”
    --Mark Twain.

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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited June 2010
    We were running this configuration at CarverFest '09; Sunfire Cinema Seven Signature (400x7) into THREE PAIR of Amazings...it was awesome:

    WallofSound_CarverFest2007.jpg
    TNRabbit
    NO Polk Audio Equipment :eek:
    Sunfire TG-IV
    Ashly 1001 Active Crossover
    Rane PEQ-15 Parametric Equalizers x 2
    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited June 2010
    WOW all 3 are present original plat and 3's LOL. Just missing the silvers!!! You had it running all at the same time? WOW!!

    Actually it was not that loud as the ALS originals are not efficient at all. but anyone that has not experienced the bass on Floyd's welcome to the machine intro you are missing out. It is intense!


    As crazy is it sounds, it takes my Carver amazings to run on the 625 x 2 sunfire close to all out to match the volume of my SDA 1.2's on my McIntosh 2105 running at 110 per!!!!! ok so actually the SDA is actually louder on the McIntosh. BIG efficiency difference on the 2 speakers.
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  • Shannon W.
    Shannon W. Posts: 568
    edited June 2010
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    We were running this configuration at CarverFest '09; Sunfire Cinema Seven Signature (400x7) into THREE PAIR of Amazings...it was awesome:

    I think I just fell in luv (again)! :) "did not quote picture because of size" LoL

    Shannon
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    Pioneer Elite DV-45A DVD Player
    DLO HomeDock Deluxe iPod docking station
    Directv HR20 Sat. Receiver in black
    Sunfire Cinema Grand 7 Signature Amp
    Monster Cable AVS2000
    Monster Cable HTPS 5100 MKII
    Polk LSi 9's Front R/L
    Polk LSiC Center
    Polk LSiFX R/L Surround
    Polk LSi 7's Rear R/L
    SVS PB12-Plus/2
    Velodyne SMS-1
    Sony PS3
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