Electric part, does this exist?

concealer404
concealer404 Posts: 7,440
edited May 2010 in The Clubhouse
I'm looking for a "power distribution block" that also has provisions for grounding.

Ideally what i would need is something that will take one power, and one ground wire, and then would have 8-12 power and ground terminals.

Seems like things like this do exist in the car audio world, but i don't need 4awg output terminals or anything. More like 14-18awg. Doesn't have to have fuses, i can just put a 30A inline fuse in before the block.

Does this exist?
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited May 2010
    What is the application?
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,726
    edited May 2010
    Sounds like a Power strip to me. Are you talking for home use or something in your car?
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited May 2010
    Car, and not for stereo use, which is why i don't need that huge gauge BS. The load is small enough that i can just tap into my fuse box for power off the ignition, strap a ground to whatever. I'd just like to run all my electronic stuff off a block/strip for ease of installation/removal later. And because it's simpler and cleaner than just tapping all this crap into my dash harness.

    5 gauges, wideband, boost controller, and turbo timer. None of it presents a high amp draw.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,726
    edited May 2010
    Car, and not for stereo use, which is why i don't need that huge gauge BS. The load is small enough that i can just tap into my fuse box for power off the ignition, strap a ground to whatever. I'd just like to run all my electronic stuff off a block/strip for ease of installation/removal later. And because it's simpler and cleaner than just tapping all this crap into my dash harness.

    5 gauges, wideband, boost controller, and turbo timer. None of it presents a high amp draw.

    Check into RV supply companies. They make stuff for smaller gauge. You might not find one with ground though. Most of the time, they are designed for chassis ground, same as car audio stuff.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2010
  • ShinAce
    ShinAce Posts: 1,194
    edited May 2010
    I don't get it. Why not just use two distribution blocks?

    Some are already ganged, like:
    http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/1557784/vpcsid/0/SFV/30046

    edit: Oops, 14 gauge!!! Thanks GDB for reading!
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited May 2010
    billbillw wrote: »
    Check into RV supply companies. They make stuff for smaller gauge. You might not find one with ground though. Most of the time, they are designed for chassis ground, same as car audio stuff.

    The ground i'm not REAL worried about... i can get another block if i have to and strap it to the chassis myself. I just don't want to ground 8+ components willy-nilly all over the car.
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited May 2010
    gdb wrote: »

    This looks promising, but i'm electronically stupid.

    How do i feed power to that thing?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2010
    I "assume" you'd use position #1 for line in and then jumper to as many terminals as you need on one side, and take your load lines from the other side of the pairs. Another possible source is marine supply stores/sites, marine grade stuff might be more durable for car use too.:)
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited May 2010
    So in that case, i would get two barrier strips, send power to one from the fuse box, running an inline fuse before the strip, jump each pair for power, and connect power from all my gauges and stuff to that. The other barrier strip, ground to chassis, jump each pair for ground, and ground all the gauges and stuff.

    Doesn't seem to hard, if not as elegant as i was ultimately hoping, but i should be able to work with that. :)

    I really appreciate the help!
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2010
    You wouldnt have to have 2 barrier strips. You need one wire coming from the power source, then jump it down on one side...say you need 5 outputs, you jump it down 5 rows.

    5 outputs, youll need 5 grounds....so wire in your barrier strip to chassis, run jumpers down the other 5 rows.
    -Cody
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  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited May 2010
    exalted512 wrote: »
    You wouldnt have to have 2 barrier strips. You need one wire coming from the power source, then jump it down on one side...say you need 5 outputs, you jump it down 5 rows.

    5 outputs, youll need 5 grounds....so wire in your barrier strip to chassis, run jumpers down the other 5 rows.
    -Cody

    So... let's say i need 10 outputs.

    I jump down 5 rows, use those 10 for power. Jump down the other 5 rows with ground, use those 10 for ground?
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2010
    That should work as long as you keep pos. & neg separate and well marked.
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited May 2010
    gdb wrote: »
    That should work as long as you keep pos. & neg separate and well marked.

    Yeah, true. I think i may just go with two 5-row units to keep things a little less confusing later. :)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited May 2010
    Maybe a little less exciting too ! (fewer sparks & arcs ):eek:
  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2010
    Its not fun unless it's sparking! Also, I'd use some ring terminals for the connections. Just take the screws completely out, put the ring terminal in place, screw the terminal down. A lot less likely to come out and a better connection IMO
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • concealer404
    concealer404 Posts: 7,440
    edited May 2010
    exalted512 wrote: »
    Its not fun unless it's sparking! Also, I'd use some ring terminals for the connections. Just take the screws completely out, put the ring terminal in place, screw the terminal down. A lot less likely to come out and a better connection IMO
    -Cody

    Oh, for sure. :) I was either going to do rings or spades. This stuff isn't going to be under high stress or anything, no tugging. But i sure wasn't going to be just **** bare wire in there. ;)
    I don't read the newsssspaperssss because dey aaaallllllllll...... have ugly print.

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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2010
    I've just always loved the ring terminals for that stuff. Its a little more work than a spade terminal, but guaranteed to pretty much never come out...and in a car you have the worst working against you, constant bumps, extreme temperatures...everything but wind and snow (hopefully at least)
    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited May 2010
    Oh, for sure. :) I was either going to do rings or spades. This stuff isn't going to be under high stress or anything, no tugging. But i sure wasn't going to be just **** bare wire in there. ;)
    Spade are the one to use since when unscrewing it should lock at the end. In the older days this type of strip use to be very common on equipment (and was very efficient). You should also check if you can get the cover for them and if you want to be fancy I wouldn't be surprised you can still buy the jumpers specially made for them. You should dedicate one strip for each: 1 for positive, 1 for return and 1 for ground as an example

    The usual standard would be top screws for the jumpers and bottom screws for your wires. Using the left and right holes will allow you to secure the barrier strip to tha car chassis.

    I didn't see the proper jumper on their site but a bag of 50 pieces spade are dirt cheap and you would need only 20 per strips (10 for shorts and 10 for your feeds).

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=090-850&ctab=13#Tabs



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