Are Pyle stereo components garbage?

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m1aman
m1aman Posts: 143
edited June 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
I figured you guys would know......
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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
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    yes, stay away from all their stuff.
  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
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    I LOVED the PyleDriver box that I had in my Datsun....like 20+ years ago but I haven't heard a single Pyle component since then. I actually thought they were out of business up until a trade show....weird. I also don't read much love about the product.
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  • lanchile
    lanchile Posts: 560
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    yes, stay away from all their stuff.

    I second this!;)
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  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
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    I also had a Pyle amp in my car about 20+ years ago and if I remember it was very loud.

    Scott
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,244
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    Generally, yes. That said, I have experimented with a pair of Pyle compression drivers on Altec 511B horns and they were not bad (believe it or not).
  • m1aman
    m1aman Posts: 143
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    Thanks for your answers guys. Some of their prices are pretty good so I figured their was a catch.
  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
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    well when their 3000w advertised amp can only drive 100w into something, theres something going on. not to mention all the internet reviews saying how the stuff broke after like two weeks.
  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
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    if your looking for good components at low prices check out some behringer stuff, they are excellent.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,103
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    Behringer gear is horrible and it's not built very well. But then, you get what you pay for. Actually Pyle and Behringer are about the same.
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
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    My brother in law bought a Behringer AMP...lasted all of 2 weeks.

    If you want a low cost amp that may last a year or 2, consider a Audiosource AMP.
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  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
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    heiney9 wrote: »
    Behringer gear is horrible and it's not built very well. But then, you get what you pay for. Actually Pyle and Behringer are about the same.

    +1


    I used to have a Behringer 4x12" guitar cabinet, and it's about the only Behringer product I've ever seen that wasn't a POS.

    Pyle is also garbage.
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
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    Back in the late 80's early 90's pyle driver subs were good actually. I think they got bought out and then became bad.

    I have seen some of there audio stuff for DJ and amps. I would stay away also.

    Are you thinking about this for home grear or practice gear? What is the application it would be used in?
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
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    I have a pair of 6x9 speakers I bought from them because they had a really high efficiency rating and I was working with only 12 watts. They are loud but thats about all.
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,490
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    I always like to say their gear about the same quality as a Pyle of crap.

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  • HB27
    HB27 Posts: 1,518
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    Pyle makes a couple of good products. Some of their horn lenses are well built and engineered.
    I'm definitely not a fan of their electronics.
    Isn't Klipsch the parent company of Pyle now? IIRC reading something about that 6 months or so ago.
  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
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    Steaming Pyle of Shiznit.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
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    if your looking for good components at low prices check out some behringer stuff, they are excellent.
    :confused:
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Behringer gear is horrible and it's not built very well. But then, you get what you pay for. Actually Pyle and Behringer are about the same.
    +1

    Behringer is the type of company that will steal designs from reputable companies and built them out of garbage components. IE: behringer mixing consoles...
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  • pickoid
    pickoid Posts: 31
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    Pyle has never been anything to write home about. I had a Pyle car subwoofer back in about 1989, and I guess it was OK. However, the current stuff I see in the Parts Express catalog should be avoided at all costs.
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,741
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    HB27 wrote: »
    Pyle makes a couple of good products. Some of their horn lenses are well built and engineered.
    I'm definitely not a fan of their electronics.
    Isn't Klipsch the parent company of Pyle now? IIRC reading something about that 6 months or so ago.

    You read wrong.

    Pyle is owned by a parent company, Sound Around Incorporated, which is also the parent company of Pyramid, Lanzar, Legacy, Blitz, GSI and Brand X audio brands.

    http://www.soundaroundusa.com/

    Pyle used to be a separate company. Like Jensen which is now owned by Audiovox. They made good stuff way back when and honestly helped define the car audio segment. The stuff you seen now is from the parent company who cuts production costs as much as they can to increase profit margins and manufacturers overseas.

    Both Sound Around and Audiovox maintain corporate HQ locations in the United States but I am pretty sure that there are giant Japanese, Chinese and Taiwanese conglomerates behind the names.

    A similar fate befell other pioneering companies like Advent (Audiovox), AR (Audiovox), Phase Linear (Audiovox), NHT (Audiovox), Dual (TCL Holdings) and KLH (Kyocera Ltd).

    They were all bought for the names to sell cheap junk in discount stores. Although, Dual was most well known for stellar turntables and that part of the business was bought by Fehrenbacher in 1993. They still make an impressive range of turntables. Dual hasn't always been readily available here. They are big in Europe and Japan. When the Dual car audio junk started showing up here in the late 90's and got way prevalent in the past few years, I knew something was up. TCL Holdings is a Chinese company that also owns RCA, Thompson and Alcatel.

    KLH though, Kyocera stopped making audio components under the KLH name in the early 90's. They put the brand name up for sale and an American company in California called Wald Sound and Verit Industries bought them. they still make things as cheaply as possible and I still don't believe that thier holding company isn't overseas either.

    There are tons of brands from the 50's, 60's and 70's that have gone this way. Even Polk Audio is one of them. Hopefully Directed remains hands-off and doesn't bastardized the brand in to something less than desirable like these other pioneers and hallmarks of what we now call "vintage audio".


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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
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    NHT is not associated with Audiovox and remains an independent American speaker company (although production has moved to China many years ago). NHT purchased itself last year from its previous American parent company; one of NHT's founders is currently part-owner of NHT.

    For the record, the speaker business of AR was purchased by Audiovox when Jensen Int'l went belly up. The cable/power conditioner businesses of AR was sold to Recoton.
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,741
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    OK, fine, I offended NHT obviously.

    NHT was not always an independent company. It may have been bought back from Audiovox but, Jensen International owned NHT Loudspeakers when it was bought by Audiovox. NHT went with it. The "American parent company" that NHT bought itself from was Audiovox.

    And, for the record, you know who owns the right to the Recoton name? Audiovox.

    Further info. Recoton was owned by Thompson. Thompson went belly up and started selling off assets and liabilities. In December of 2007, Audiovox completed acquisition of the following brands from Thompson's consumer electronics and appliances portfolio: RCA, Recoton, Spikemaster, Ambico and Discwasher.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
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    Jstas wrote: »
    NHT was not always an independent company. It may have been bought back from Audiovox but, Jensen International owned NHT Loudspeakers when it was bought by Audiovox. NHT went with it. The "American parent company" that NHT bought itself from was Audiovox.

    According to this Stereophile article, NHT was previously owned by Vinci Labs, which funded NHT's xD series of DSP speaker system. The article didn't mention it, but before Vinci Labs, NHT was owned by Rockford-Fosgate. At that time, Rockford-Fosgate owned MB Quart also.
  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,741
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    Danny Tse wrote: »
    According to this Stereophile article, NHT was previously owned by Vinci Labs, which funded NHT's xD series of DSP speaker system. The article didn't mention it, but before Vinci Labs, NHT was owned by Rockford-Fosgate. At that time, Rockford-Fosgate owned MB Quart also.

    Dude, really? That article is 5 years old and the "Vinci Labs" that bought the name is long since gone.

    This is the "Vinci Labs" site now: http://www.vincilabs.com/

    The current owners renewed a registration in 2009. They've probably had the name since at least 2008, maybe earlier. Also, the Vinci Labs that bought the name was owned by the Vinci Group based in Tampere, Finland, not a US Company. Rockford Fosgate also unloaded MB Quart in 2005 as well as NHT.

    The last news I can find for the Finnish "Vinci Group" is some stories on BNET about acquisitions with high liability in early 2008. I'll bet that the "Vinci Group" folded in 2008 and everything was sold off in a fire sale. The current company owning the Vinci Group names in Europe is a construction/architectural company that builds infrastructure like bridges, large buildings and energy facilities.

    If the Vinci Group did in fact fold and the assets sold off, they went in a private sale and therefore no notice of what holdings went where necessary to be made public. The only public that would know would those who were shareholders of the companies acquiring the assets. I see nothing beyond 2007-2008 to support your statements.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
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    We have been trying out two bridged Pyle's rated at 3000 watts each for the band, lots of power, no issues, they sound best with tubed head units, appropriate signal compression and EQ, not really something though I would ever use for home stereo. Pretty cheap stuff in pro audio land.

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  • 20hz
    20hz Posts: 636
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    As far as I have seen behringer is kinda bad , I bought a behringer rack mount xover the adjustments almost made no differance .
    BUT
    The behringer truth 2030 speaker sounds VERY nice ! (its a copy of ?genelec? )
    I would be proud to have some (dont know if I would pull the polks though) .
    All pyles I ever saw were junk
    but
    I had a pyle "pro-series" 12" with a big magnet and huge voice coil no matter what box I tried that in it always sounded good, I tried it in a .75 cu box with a big port and it went good .
  • ekp
    ekp Posts: 1
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    I bought a pair of pyle 6x9 4 way and a pair of pyle 6 1/2 component speakers, both rated for 100watts RMS. I have them hooked up to a sony xplod 4x100 amp. I paid about 50.00 plus shipping for these and have had them in my truck for 3 years, and they work great! wish I would have got 4 of the 6x9's they are awesome, and they were cheaper than the 6 1/2's:eek:
  • JERRYUUC
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    WISH I WOULD HAVE READ HERE FIRST....I ORDERD A SMALL PYLE PRREAMP TO BOOST MY OLD 15 INCH BASS SPEAKERS....TOOK QUITE A WHILE TO GET IT....WOULD NOT DO MUCH OF ANYTHING ...THEY SAID I HOOKED IT UP WRONG....I TOLD THEM YA ....I'M ONLY ELCTRONIC TECHNICIAN AND BEEN DOING THIS ALL MY LIFE ....I'M 73 NOW....SO THEY FINALLY SENT ME ANOTHER ONE FOR FREE.....BUT SAME THING.....NO GO....YA....PYLE OF S.....AHH JUNK.....BETTER SAVE YOUR MONEY AND TIME....NO PYLE !.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,244
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    three words
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,981
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    Pyle of ____.
    Buy a vowel....
  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
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    The Pyle phono pre I have does the job, but I know it's leaving alot on the table, so to speak.