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nooshinjohn
nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
edited May 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
on the Threshold T100 amp. I have an oportunity to grab one of these for a great price, but I have no experience with the brand. It is a pure class A design from the mind of Nelson Pass, but that is all I know about them. Any input on them anyone?
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited May 2010
    According to this it only 60 w/ch. http://www.threshold-audio.com/discontinued.html
    A note of caution, IIRC Threshold built some amps in that time frame that utilized IGBT transistors in the output stage.This may be one of those units?Those IGBT are unobtanium so if any should fail finding replacements could be an issue.



    EDIT.OK it appears it is one of the IGBT models,so Nelson was not involved with the design. http://www.threshold-audio.com/about.html
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2010
    If it is an IGBT model stay away.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2010
    The Threshold pieces which are legendary are described here:

    The first generation Threshold amplifiers utilized an inventive triple -series, triple parallel output, dynamically biased circuitry, which were light years ahead of anything else on the market. Four years later Nelson Pass created STASIS technology, which is widely regarded as one of the most significant circuit advances of the modern era. In addition to Threshold, Nelson Pass created many modern -classic amplifier designs under the Pass Labs, First Watt, and Nakamichi brand names. The Threshold S/200 A/AB STASIS amplifier was introduced in 1989 with a production run until 1992 and an original selling price of $1,950.00. It is an evolved member of the Stasis family of amplifiers and is still regarded as one of the gems of the Thresholds past. Sonically the S/200 is outstanding. It provides plenty of power with a level of sonic detail and elegance that many of today's high dollar amps have a hard time matching .

    If you look at the early models with the dynamic bias circuitry try to get that later generation that had optical biasing as it was more stable than non-optical biased amps.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited May 2010
    so looking at a STASIS Pa7mkII from Nakamichi would be a good equivalent?
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2010
    What's your budget?
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited May 2010
    I am a bit flexible. I was going to grab the Threshold for less than a grand, but I am in no hurry. I am looking to fully separate my two channel gear from the HT setup.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited May 2010
    I dunno my man,for that kinda coin,I'd look around a bit.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited May 2010
    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1279058020&/Diy-rawson-first-watt-F4-monob

    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1278617657
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited May 2010
    http://cgi.ebay.ca/Mini-Hi-Fi-Amplifier-FM-for-Cars-Motorcycle-Home-Stereo_W0QQitemZ220605551873QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335d1d9501
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited May 2010
    ^^^^LOL.... Thanks, that one looks like a winner right there.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited May 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    ^^^^LOL.... Thanks, that one looks like a winner right there.

    Its common ground too,so SDA friendly.;)
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  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,851
    edited May 2010
    That Aragon sounds fantastic in the right set up, the guy I bought my M-1's had one he bought new and without any mods.....
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