Integrated amp into power conditioner?

mdaudioguy
mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
edited May 2010 in Electronics
I've seen this question asked many times before about AVRs and amplifiers. Usually the consensus is something like plug the receiver into the power conditioner, but plug the amps directly into a wall outlet (which is what I'm doing with my HT gear). What about an integrated amplifier like the one I'm using for 2-channel? I know it doesn't have all the sensitive circuits like an AVR, but it doesn't draw current like my HT amp either, so?? :confused: Would clean power benefit an integrated? Does an integrated draw enough current such that the PC might restrict it somewhat?

Btw, my power conditioner is the Monster HTS 3600 MkII. See below for my other gear.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited May 2010
    I plug my Krell Integrated through PS Audio Ultimate Outlet. It doesn't restrict current.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
  • lanchile
    lanchile Posts: 560
    edited May 2010
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    I've seen this question asked many times before about AVRs and amplifiers. Usually the consensus is something like plug the receiver into the power conditioner, but plug the amps directly into a wall outlet (which is what I'm doing with my HT gear). What about an integrated amplifier like the one I'm using for 2-channel? I know it doesn't have all the sensitive circuits like an AVR, but it doesn't draw current like my HT amp either, so?? :confused: Would clean power benefit an integrated? Does an integrated draw enough current such that the PC might restrict it somewhat?

    Btw, my power conditioner is the Monster HTS 3600 MkII. See below for my other gear.

    if you can use a power conditioner...use it! specially if it has some kind of RF filter!.I use a WIDEBAND POWERLINE NOISE ANALYZER (Entech) to check how much "noise" I get from outlets and I always get huge noise RF, but without the power noise analyzer I will never know this is in the line. it is amazing how much "Garbage" is in the ac line. I use Monster power to clean any noise in the line and this things really work! after I use it, there is no more RF or any noise.
    Make it simple...Make it better!
  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited May 2010
    It also matters if your wall outlet circuit amp is a 15 amp or 20 amp outlet. You can find that out on your breaker box.

    This is from a friend of mine who works at National Grid in Massachusetts when I asked him about my amp and power conditioner as well:

    "add two 20 amp outlets (1 for the amp, 1 for everything else). Then add a whole house surge protector for about $400. Then use two SurgeX 20 amp units for each outlet.

    In my opinion you'd be much better adding the outlets, whole house protection and decent SurgeX units than one high end unit. You could use the high end units instead of the SurgeX if you prefer.

    If you add outlets makes sure both are on the same phase."
  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited May 2010
    Also, make sure the power conditioner isn't a MOV and doesn't use ground. Check to see if it's UL certified and post it's UL test results.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,027
    edited May 2010
    Also, make sure the power conditioner isn't a MOV

    I'd make a guess that 99% of power conditioners use MOV's. So, what ya got?
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  • digitalvideo
    digitalvideo Posts: 983
    edited May 2010
    F1nut wrote: »
    I'd make a guess that 99% of power conditioners use MOV's. So, what ya got?

    Professional grade surge suppressors don't. For higher end look at SurgeX, Exact Power, Furman Reference Series, Richard Gray Power. You won't see any studio using conditioners from Best Buy, Walmart, Staples and they're not going to risk their equipment on a inferior product that doesn't protect their systems properly.

    There's a reason why professional sports stadiums, concert halls, recording studios use UL Certified suppressors and Monster is not one. Make sure the company posts it's UL 1449 Adjunct Classification Test Results, and Federal Guidelines and a Grade A, Class 1, Mode 1 is the highest rating. None of the brands at best buy, walmart, staples have a UL certificate and don't post their independent test results. I just wouldn't trust one of those from there to protect my equipment.

    All use SurgeX:

    Dallas Cowboys Stadium
    Yankees Stadium
    Carnegie Hall
    The Kimmel Center

    http://www.surgex.com/news.html

    http://www.listentech.com/blog/Dallas-Cowboys-Stadium-Spotlights-Listen/

    This explains in detail:

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1046031&page=4