The Sony BDP-S570 is the new reference player for speed that beats the OPPO BDP-83
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The Sony BDP-S570 is the new reference player for speed that beats the OPPO BDP-83, PS3, and all other existing standalone BLU-RAY players on the market when it comes to loading discs super fast. According to CNET, the new Sony BDP-S570 is so fast that it even is almost twice as fast at skipping chapters compared to the OPPO BDP-83. Sony has really improved on their BLU-RAY players with the new 2010 models. The $249.99 BDP-S570 offers SACD playback with internally decoding to PCM or using the native DSD bitstream over HDMI. The $179.99 BDP-S370 and $199.99 BDP-S470 also offer the SACD playback feature. The BDP-S570 and BDP-S470 offer 3-D 1080P BLU-RAY movie support with a future firmware upgrade. If one has a wired home network they can save $50 and go with the BDP-S470 which lacks built in WI-FI and lacks 1GB of internal memory for BD-LIVE.
The new BDP-S570 also has 1GB of internal memory for BD-LIVE which is a nice feature for mainstream consumers that want to use BD-LIVE. Other players like the BDP-S370 and BDP-S470 require external memory to be purchased.
** Overall the OPPO BDP-83 is a better player than the Sony BDP-S570 since the OPPO has a better video processor and plays DVD-Audio discs. But, the OPPO BDP-83 costs twice as much at $499 compared to the Sony BDP-S570 for $249.99. If one wants to own the fastest standalone BLU-RAY player currently on the market, wants to save $250, has no interest in DVD-Audio playback, and can handle a little less quality video processor then the Sony BDP-S570 might be the player you have been looking for. Sony players have a good history of being reliable and offering very good firmware updates for the latest new releases. **
It also should be noted that the new $650 Sony BDV-E770W and $550 Sony BDV-E570 BLU-RAY players that are integrated in a home theater complete system have 1GB of built in memory for BD-LIVE, play SACD's, and are 3D ready with a firmware update.
http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/consumer/home_video/blu-ray_disc/release/56400.html
Some nice features offered on the Sony BDP-S570 that are new features never available before on a Sony standalone BLU-RAY player:
1. The Sound and Vision magazine review claims the new Sony BDP-S570 will automatically convert film based 480I DVD's to 1080P/24 instead of just 1080P/60 with 3:2 pulldown. I could not find this feature listed in the Sony BDP-S570 manual. Further verification is needed to verify if the new 2010 Sony's offer a 24fps DVD feature.
2. Built in 1GB of memory for BD-LIVE. This is another nice feature that can be found in the BDP-S570. All prior Sony models that offered BD-LIVE required external memory to be purchased.
3. Super Audio Compact Disc playback. All Sony 2010 models are supporting SACD playback. This is another nice feature.
4. Sony BDP-S570 supports full 1080P 3-D BLU-RAY movies with a future firmware update.
The following are select quotes from the April 2010 Sound and Vision magazine review
Click here to read a complete review on the Sony BDP-S570 at the Sound and Vision magazine website
"Unlike previous standalone Sony BD players, the BDP-S570 can also play high-rez SACDs. If youre an audiophile who happens to own a few of those, youll be interested to know that, along with internally decoding the SACD DSD signal to multichannel PCM for output via HDMI, Sonys player can also pass it on in bitstream format to a DSD-friendly A/V receiver or preamp."
"Perhaps the biggest newsflash on the BDPS570 s feature front is that its 3D-ready: A firmware update scheduled for this summer will let you play 3D Blu-ray Discs and view them in that format on new, 3D-capable TVs. The Sony rep I spoke with said the players HDMI output is version 1.4 although the company doesnt label it as such, since it omits a few features offered in that version of the HDMI spec. (The new crop of 3D TVs and 3D-capable Blu-ray players coming out this year will feature HDMI 1.4 connections.) But he also went on to emphasize that the BDP-S570 will support full-rez, frame-sequential 1080p output from 3D discs once Sonys firmware update gets installed."
"I left the Bluray 1080p/24 Output mode at the default Auto setting, which allows the player to automatically switch from 1080p/24 output for film-based programs (unlike many other Blu-ray players, the Sony can output a 1080p/24 signal with both Blu-ray Discs and DVDs) to 1080p/60 output for high-def content shot on video."
"The Sonys power-up cycle proved to be an ultraspeedy 2 seconds no time wasted waiting to insert discs with this baby. Disc loading ranged from 6 seconds for DVDs to 10 seconds for most Blu-ray titles, although BD-Live discs took longer."
"When I ran some Blu-ray test discs to evaluate the players handling of video-based 1080i-format material, its video processor didnt vault over the test-pattern hurdles as nimbly as a Pioneer BDP-09 player that I compared it with but that player costs 2 grand, whereas the Sony is $250."
"Unless you go looking and looking really hard for performance shortcomings, youre unlikely to uncover any serious ones when viewing DVDs with the BDP-S570."
The following selected quotes are from the CNET review on the Sony BDP-S570
Click here to read a complete review on the Sony BDP-S570 at CNET website
"It's also the fastest player we've ever tested, handily beating out the Oppo BDP-83 on nearly all our operational speed tests."
"1GB of onboard storage gives the BDP-S570 a leg up over the competing LG BD570, and allows owners to access BD-Live features without needed a separate USB memory drive."
"We appreciated that Sony includes two USB ports (one front, one back), allowing you to make quick connections with the front port and have another drive connected more permanently, out of sight."
"The Sony BDP-S570's Blu-ray image quality is very good overall, image quality enthusiasts will find some minor issues. Yes, we'd rate the LG BD570 as marginally better, and the Oppo BDP-83 slightly superior to both, but the differences are tough to see even when you're looking for them, let alone when you're lost in a movie. We think nearly all buyers will be satisfied with the BDP-S570's image quality."
"The Sony BDP-S570 is the fastest Blu-ray player we've tested, beating out even the previous speed champ, the Oppo BDP-83. Part of this is due to the BDP-S570's quick start mode, which allows it to load a disc from the off position over 10 seconds faster than the competing LG players. It's also very quick to load movies with complex menu systems, such "Pirates of the Carribbean." The competing Panasonic DMP-BD80K takes nearly 25 seconds longer to get to the actual movie; the PS3 Slim takes 44 seconds longer. It's a noticeable difference, especially if everyone's anxious to start movie night."
"Where the BDP-S570 really shines is our chapter-skip test, where it's nearly twice as fast the Oppo BDP-83."
The new BDP-S570 also has 1GB of internal memory for BD-LIVE which is a nice feature for mainstream consumers that want to use BD-LIVE. Other players like the BDP-S370 and BDP-S470 require external memory to be purchased.
** Overall the OPPO BDP-83 is a better player than the Sony BDP-S570 since the OPPO has a better video processor and plays DVD-Audio discs. But, the OPPO BDP-83 costs twice as much at $499 compared to the Sony BDP-S570 for $249.99. If one wants to own the fastest standalone BLU-RAY player currently on the market, wants to save $250, has no interest in DVD-Audio playback, and can handle a little less quality video processor then the Sony BDP-S570 might be the player you have been looking for. Sony players have a good history of being reliable and offering very good firmware updates for the latest new releases. **
It also should be noted that the new $650 Sony BDV-E770W and $550 Sony BDV-E570 BLU-RAY players that are integrated in a home theater complete system have 1GB of built in memory for BD-LIVE, play SACD's, and are 3D ready with a firmware update.
http://news.sel.sony.com/en/press_room/consumer/home_video/blu-ray_disc/release/56400.html
Some nice features offered on the Sony BDP-S570 that are new features never available before on a Sony standalone BLU-RAY player:
1. The Sound and Vision magazine review claims the new Sony BDP-S570 will automatically convert film based 480I DVD's to 1080P/24 instead of just 1080P/60 with 3:2 pulldown. I could not find this feature listed in the Sony BDP-S570 manual. Further verification is needed to verify if the new 2010 Sony's offer a 24fps DVD feature.
2. Built in 1GB of memory for BD-LIVE. This is another nice feature that can be found in the BDP-S570. All prior Sony models that offered BD-LIVE required external memory to be purchased.
3. Super Audio Compact Disc playback. All Sony 2010 models are supporting SACD playback. This is another nice feature.
4. Sony BDP-S570 supports full 1080P 3-D BLU-RAY movies with a future firmware update.
The following are select quotes from the April 2010 Sound and Vision magazine review
Click here to read a complete review on the Sony BDP-S570 at the Sound and Vision magazine website
"Unlike previous standalone Sony BD players, the BDP-S570 can also play high-rez SACDs. If youre an audiophile who happens to own a few of those, youll be interested to know that, along with internally decoding the SACD DSD signal to multichannel PCM for output via HDMI, Sonys player can also pass it on in bitstream format to a DSD-friendly A/V receiver or preamp."
"Perhaps the biggest newsflash on the BDPS570 s feature front is that its 3D-ready: A firmware update scheduled for this summer will let you play 3D Blu-ray Discs and view them in that format on new, 3D-capable TVs. The Sony rep I spoke with said the players HDMI output is version 1.4 although the company doesnt label it as such, since it omits a few features offered in that version of the HDMI spec. (The new crop of 3D TVs and 3D-capable Blu-ray players coming out this year will feature HDMI 1.4 connections.) But he also went on to emphasize that the BDP-S570 will support full-rez, frame-sequential 1080p output from 3D discs once Sonys firmware update gets installed."
"I left the Bluray 1080p/24 Output mode at the default Auto setting, which allows the player to automatically switch from 1080p/24 output for film-based programs (unlike many other Blu-ray players, the Sony can output a 1080p/24 signal with both Blu-ray Discs and DVDs) to 1080p/60 output for high-def content shot on video."
"The Sonys power-up cycle proved to be an ultraspeedy 2 seconds no time wasted waiting to insert discs with this baby. Disc loading ranged from 6 seconds for DVDs to 10 seconds for most Blu-ray titles, although BD-Live discs took longer."
"When I ran some Blu-ray test discs to evaluate the players handling of video-based 1080i-format material, its video processor didnt vault over the test-pattern hurdles as nimbly as a Pioneer BDP-09 player that I compared it with but that player costs 2 grand, whereas the Sony is $250."
"Unless you go looking and looking really hard for performance shortcomings, youre unlikely to uncover any serious ones when viewing DVDs with the BDP-S570."
The following selected quotes are from the CNET review on the Sony BDP-S570
Click here to read a complete review on the Sony BDP-S570 at CNET website
"It's also the fastest player we've ever tested, handily beating out the Oppo BDP-83 on nearly all our operational speed tests."
"1GB of onboard storage gives the BDP-S570 a leg up over the competing LG BD570, and allows owners to access BD-Live features without needed a separate USB memory drive."
"We appreciated that Sony includes two USB ports (one front, one back), allowing you to make quick connections with the front port and have another drive connected more permanently, out of sight."
"The Sony BDP-S570's Blu-ray image quality is very good overall, image quality enthusiasts will find some minor issues. Yes, we'd rate the LG BD570 as marginally better, and the Oppo BDP-83 slightly superior to both, but the differences are tough to see even when you're looking for them, let alone when you're lost in a movie. We think nearly all buyers will be satisfied with the BDP-S570's image quality."
"The Sony BDP-S570 is the fastest Blu-ray player we've tested, beating out even the previous speed champ, the Oppo BDP-83. Part of this is due to the BDP-S570's quick start mode, which allows it to load a disc from the off position over 10 seconds faster than the competing LG players. It's also very quick to load movies with complex menu systems, such "Pirates of the Carribbean." The competing Panasonic DMP-BD80K takes nearly 25 seconds longer to get to the actual movie; the PS3 Slim takes 44 seconds longer. It's a noticeable difference, especially if everyone's anxious to start movie night."
"Where the BDP-S570 really shines is our chapter-skip test, where it's nearly twice as fast the Oppo BDP-83."
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Very interesting....I don't know about the PS3 slim but the previous incarnation will load most BR discs in 36 seconds or so.
As I said before...unless you're projecting VERY BIG...you won't see significant quality differences between these cheaper players and more expensive ones. It is interesting that Sony is putting SACD features on most of its new players...hope that foreshadows a major push to release a bunch of new recordings??
Finally, let's face it...Sony has the resources to produce a real quality BDP if they want...they don't need to worry about Oppo because that's not their market. If they wanted to make a better player than Oppo, you'd see one tomorrow! I am not particularly a fan of Sony (though I do have a PS3) but I have to call it as I see it.
Looks like Sony is back when it comes to digital media.
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If it can't match or beat the video processing in the Oppo then it's still a lost. Load times with the Oppo are fast, just about the speed of a regular DVDp. However where the Oppo really shines are few more places, for me would be the video processing, for others the upgraded two channel analog side. Not being a fanboy, however it will take a little more than this to up the Oppo.Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!
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Technology is always improving. Someone was ultimately going to shave a few seconds off of Oppo's best load time. I'll stick with the better video processing.____________________________________________________________
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The new Sony BDP-S570 isn't on the lists.
I shoulda known....:p
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Erik Tracy wrote: »Wait 'til Bernal reads this.....
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"...It's amazing how fast technology changes. The PS3 use to be the fastest BLU-RAY player on the market but all that changed when the 2009 OPPO BDP-83 came out and with the several new models of 2010 BLU-RAY players...." -
I get the humor in that Jesse....I'm not a lost cause.CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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I actually prefer a longer load time as it doesn't rush me to get a glass of Merlot and get back in the comfy chair. Short load times are highly overrated!DKG999
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i have a sony s570...not sure how fast it loads cause i really don't pay much attention to how long it takes.Living Room Rig:D
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Everything except 7.1 analog audio outputs. That's a deal breaker!DKG999
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Let us know. For the price it appears to be really spectacular.
Messed with it last night. Seems to take about 3-4 seconds to turn on and about 7-8 to load a disc. However i have it on the low power setting so it loads slower. If you change it to the high power mode it runs faster.Living Room Rig:D
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Xbox360/PS3/WII
M.Br. setup:)
Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
Computer Rig:
Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
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I would expect it to be a very good BR for the money but I'm not a fan of the ultra slim profile Sony chose for their new gen of players.
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I wondered why God of war with it's massive scale loaded in seconds, but bioshock 2 seemed to take all eternity to load...
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I am buying a new TV and Blu-ray player. Since it wont be a 3-d TV the S570 would be too much.
I'm interested in the Wifi (Netflix), DVD, and SACD playback. Would the S370 be a viable choice? -
I am buying a new TV and Blu-ray player. Since it wont be a 3-d TV the S570 would be too much.
I'm interested in the Wifi (Netflix), DVD, and SACD playback. Would the S370 be a viable choice?
If you want to go wireless you need to get another part from Sony direct. It cost 50 bucks in order to stream wireless. Otherwise you have to go with the 570 which has it built in. However if you can run a line to it then no problem you saved the 50bucks and all is well.Living Room Rig:D
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Xbox360/PS3/WII
M.Br. setup:)
Emotiva MMC-1/Rotel RMB-1075/Polk BlackStone TL350's/Velodyne SPL1000/Samsung 51" Plasma
Computer Rig:
Rotel RB1050/Tannoy DC4's/Klipsch RW-10d/ImodIpod/HK AVR230 for now....
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wonder if there will be a future 3d upgrade for the ps3?
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wonder if there will be a future 3d upgrade for the ps3?
yes there will be... there will be an upcoming update to allow 3D games. The problem is that the output for 3D games is 720P, not 1080P which is a bummer. There will be another update later this year which will enable 3D playback for movies on the PS3. I do not know if it will output 720P or 1080P. -
I am buying a new TV and Blu-ray player. Since it wont be a 3-d TV the S570 would be too much.
I'm interested in the Wifi (Netflix), DVD, and SACD playback. Would the S370 be a viable choice?
The OPPO BDP-80 is a full-featured universal Blu-ray Disc player that supports BD Profile 2.0 (BD-Live and BonusView), DVD-Video, DVD-Audio, Super Audio CD (SACD), HDCD, CD and other popular media formats such as AVCHD, MKV video files, digital photos and music.
http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-80/
