Speakers in the garage- issues?
FiveORacing
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I have mentioned I'm finishing the interior of my stand-alone garage and plan on putting my four Monitor 10s out there. Someone suggested I find one more 10 as a center and make a surround system for the bigscreen TV on the sidewall.
Here's my question. The garage is 30w X 50d with 12'6 ceilings. It has cars, grandkids toys, and woodworking equipment in it. I was toying with the idea of putting the 10's on shelves in each corner 6 or 7 feet off the floor to keep them away from dust and harm from projects going on in the garage. Is that a bad idea, and if I do that ,could I use the stands in reverse so the speakers lean forward?
This system is primarily for music 2 speakers at a time, but figured I have most of the stuff to make a surround system so why not.
I appreciate any advise, you guys have much more experience at this kinda stuff than I do.
Joe
Here's my question. The garage is 30w X 50d with 12'6 ceilings. It has cars, grandkids toys, and woodworking equipment in it. I was toying with the idea of putting the 10's on shelves in each corner 6 or 7 feet off the floor to keep them away from dust and harm from projects going on in the garage. Is that a bad idea, and if I do that ,could I use the stands in reverse so the speakers lean forward?
This system is primarily for music 2 speakers at a time, but figured I have most of the stuff to make a surround system so why not.
I appreciate any advise, you guys have much more experience at this kinda stuff than I do.
Joe
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Is the garage heated? I don't think the cold would be good for the speakers or audio equipment. I am not sure where you live or what climate you live in. I am in the northeast so I normally put inexpensive speakers out there. I would not be putting Monitor 10's in there unless the temp doesn't drop down in the 40's or below. If you are going to use the 10's for a HT setup, I would use a Monitor 7 for the center speaker. The 10's are pretty big unless you have the room underneath the TV on the floor. Just make sure the 10's for the center and mains have the same tweeter to sonically match.Polk HT system 1: LSIC, LSI25 mains, LSI F/X rears, Lsi F/X rear centers,
Yamaha RX-V2500 System, Carver A753 3 channel amp.
Polk HT system 2: , SRT system with f/x 1,000's rear speakers on 7.1 system currently using Onkyo TX-RZ820 receiver, powered by Sunfire Grand Theater amp
Polk Speaker collection: SDA SRS 1.2tl x 2, SRT system, SDA SRS 2 P/B, SDA 2A, SDA 1C Studio, SDA CRS+, Monitor 7B & 4, SRS 3.1tl, RTA 15tl, LS90, LSI 9 -
The garage is heated, and heavily insulated. Temp should be min 50 in winter and 90 max in summer.
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They should be fine. Which Monitor 10's do you have. Do they have a fuse on the back, if so they will be the earlier type. If you are lucky they will have peerless tweets in them, if not they will have the SL2000's. If they have the SL2000's consider changing them to RDO 194's. It will be a great upgrade thru Polk. Sounds like a nice garage.Polk HT system 1: LSIC, LSI25 mains, LSI F/X rears, Lsi F/X rear centers,
Yamaha RX-V2500 System, Carver A753 3 channel amp.
Polk HT system 2: , SRT system with f/x 1,000's rear speakers on 7.1 system currently using Onkyo TX-RZ820 receiver, powered by Sunfire Grand Theater amp
Polk Speaker collection: SDA SRS 1.2tl x 2, SRT system, SDA SRS 2 P/B, SDA 2A, SDA 1C Studio, SDA CRS+, Monitor 7B & 4, SRS 3.1tl, RTA 15tl, LS90, LSI 9 -
They should be fine. Which Monitor 10's do you have. Do they have a fuse on the back, if so they will be the earlier type. If you are lucky they will have peerless tweets in them, if not they will have the SL2000's. If they have the SL2000's consider changing them to RDO 194's. It will be a great upgrade thru Polk. Sounds like a nice garage.
They are the one's I just purchased on the other thread. They are model 10's with two fuses.;)
One of them gave me a heart attack today when it suddenly stop working. I looked at the fuses and they looked good, so I put it up on the table in preparation to operate and saw it was in fact a blown 2.5 fuse, actually the wire looks like it broke. -
Humidity changes will eventually get to those. If they are something you want to cherish, I'd keep them in an area that is climate controlled. Also, I don't think Mon 10s will perform very good on high shelves. I mean, there are garage speakers, and there are nice vintage speakers that are worth preserving. I have a cheap pair of beat up Mission 700-2 in my garage. More than adequate to make sweet tunes while I'm working on projects, yet I won't regret it if they are damaged by the environment.For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore...
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I placed my 4 monitor 10's 8' up and one in each corner for years. Now I have AC and heat and keep it about 70-72* year round.
I say put them up in the air and enjoy. Point them down if you want but I didn't have to. They filled the room with beautiful sound. I really need to rehook the one pr. I have left back up!!Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
Me, I have had speakers and equipment in the garage for many, many years with no issues. Great place to chill and relax without disturbing the family too much.
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Humidity is always going to be a problem.
Humidity will always be a problem weather heated and cooled. A thermostat that has humidity control will help.Honeywell Vision Pro 8000 with the outdoor air senser.An HRV will help most of the year,depending were you life.JMTCRec rm vm30 micro pro 3000 akai 2 channel. ht anthem MTX 5 channel anthem P2 statement anthem 325, 8 channel Martin Logan power amp for 4 ceiling ls900 2 and outdoor polks, 2 JL 110’s subs panasonic 65" plasma lsim 705’s , 706c, L200 and Control 4 garage rig monitor 10s crossovers by VR3, dynamat, RDO-194's, new drivers. psw 111 Pioneer 9040 BDP53fd 100 " screen Nakamichi HD projector, and Panasonic 65” plasma. -
My air cond. really gets rid of the humidity in my man cave.:D
It' themostactically controlled so it come on or goes off depending on that 70* setting I set it on.
Winter time, There is none to really worry about. except for sleeping in my house. I run a warm air himidifier for our health.:pMost people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
The main problem with speakers in the garage has nothing to do with the elements...the main problem is reflections.
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It may,but it is run off a temp set point not a humidity set point.Temperature really means nothing.Rec rm vm30 micro pro 3000 akai 2 channel. ht anthem MTX 5 channel anthem P2 statement anthem 325, 8 channel Martin Logan power amp for 4 ceiling ls900 2 and outdoor polks, 2 JL 110’s subs panasonic 65" plasma lsim 705’s , 706c, L200 and Control 4 garage rig monitor 10s crossovers by VR3, dynamat, RDO-194's, new drivers. psw 111 Pioneer 9040 BDP53fd 100 " screen Nakamichi HD projector, and Panasonic 65” plasma.
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I have a Harman Kardon receiver and some cheap KLH speakers in my attached unheated garage, and I live in northwest Wis. I have had no problems even though it sometimes gets a little icy in Jan. I agree with humidity being the only worry.
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I have a bathroom out there, so I can't let it freeze and the heat will be on all winter. I also have ceiling fans for ventilation, but I don't plan on running a/c all the time. So what would be the symptoms, or casualty of humidity issues?
I have considered running a large dehumidifier out there?
Reflections? I don't expect the sound out there to be very good, technically. The barn is steel, inside and out. -
FiveORacing wrote: »I have a bathroom out there, so I can't let it freeze and the heat will be on all winter. I also have ceiling fans for ventilation, but I don't plan on running a/c all the time. So what would be the symptoms, or casualty of humidity issues?
I have considered running a large dehumidifier out there?
Reflections? I don't expect the sound out there to be very good, technically. The barn is steel, inside and out.
Humidity will cause the MDF to swell/shrink and the veneer to peel. This would happen slowly over the course of many years though. Could also cause rust/oxidation on the various metal surfaces.For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore... -
My AC unit sure seems to pull the humidity out of the room. If it didn't , I couldn't stand to be out there more than 5 mins. at a time. Something happened to my lungs yrs. ago and I can't stand to breath humid air. It feels like I'm sufficating, really. Lung disease runs in my Dads' family along with heart disease too. A double whammy for me so I watch it now.
The water steadily drips (huge drips at that, one after another) on the out-side from the unit. I know it's not a dedicated dehumidifier, (I've owned a couple for my house when my central AC was going down hill.) but it does pretty good removing humidity.
I always thought heat holds humidity in the air molicules.( see hurricanes) The colder the air, the less humidity.Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
The dehumidifiers I've used took water out of the air but put off HEAT in the process. I finally said enough, and bought window AC units and had low humidity and cold air again.Dehudifiers are great and if you can expell the heat outside, excellent. But if you stay in the same room with one....woe.pant, pant...but it will be dry heat.;):pMost people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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I have a 25x30 garage thats a piece o' crap (non insulated, leaky, open soffits).
It wreaks havoc on speakers out there... Luckily I have an Onkyo 575DS receiver and a Yamaha 4115ps PA speaker cabinet (110lbs, 15" woofer, 1" metal horn) that takes care of the tunes.Main Surround -
Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub
Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250
Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD -
Run the tunes with the overhead door open, and the main problem is NEIGHBORS.Conradicles wrote: »The main problem with speakers in the garage has nothing to do with the elements...the main problem is reflections. -
That's a great size, any way at all of restoring it to a sealed structure?
Nice shed/garage receiver you have there!!Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them. -
Run the tunes with the overhead door open, and the main problem is NEIGHBORS.
I think the neighbors on both side are deaf. The are all in thier late 80's. They already hate me anyway because I built the garage in the first place.
12 people showed up at the variance hearing but it was approved anyway. 
To quote a favorite song "but thats not
what I came to tell you about."
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I run mine insanely loud... the yamaha has yet to hit its limit. Let's hook up the Crown amp this weekend and see if I can cause a sonic boom.Main Surround -
Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub
Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250
Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD -
How about a sonic snap, crackle, sizzle......LOLMost people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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It's louder than my muffler-less (straight header pipe) riding mower!Main Surround -
Epson 8350 Projector/ Elite Screens 120" / Pioneer Elite SC-35 / Sunfire Signature / Focal Chorus 716s / Focal Chorus CC / Polk MC80 / Polk PSW150 sub
Bedroom - Sharp Aquos 70" 650 / Pioneer SC-1222k / Polk RT-55 / Polk CS-250
Den - Rotel RSP-1068 / Threshold CAS-2 / Boston VR-M60 / BDP-05FD -
Alot of the moisture is coming from the slab. Painting with epoxy paint or any sealer would help keep the stuff out.IMORec rm vm30 micro pro 3000 akai 2 channel. ht anthem MTX 5 channel anthem P2 statement anthem 325, 8 channel Martin Logan power amp for 4 ceiling ls900 2 and outdoor polks, 2 JL 110’s subs panasonic 65" plasma lsim 705’s , 706c, L200 and Control 4 garage rig monitor 10s crossovers by VR3, dynamat, RDO-194's, new drivers. psw 111 Pioneer 9040 BDP53fd 100 " screen Nakamichi HD projector, and Panasonic 65” plasma.
