Tim Burton to remake Willy Wonka

Ron-P
Ron-P Posts: 8,519
edited May 2003 in Music & Movies
Warners takes whack at 'Wonka'
Burton to helm Dahl redo, supervise 'Bride'

By MICHAEL FLEMING
Confident they've finally unwrapped the Wonka bar with the golden ticket, Warner Bros. execs are enlisting Tim Burton to direct "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory," the second live-action adaptation of the Roald Dahl classic children's novel....

Variety

Could be very cool. I'm looking forward to this.


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  • STUFFMD
    STUFFMD Posts: 381
    edited May 2003
    They have been talking about doing it for 3 years now, they even had a cast at one time...Nick Cage as Wonka........Would love to see it.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,519
    edited May 2003
    I'm willing to bet Depp will play Wonka, which he is perfect for ayway.


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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited May 2003
    They were actually planning on casting Marilyn Manson as Wonka. IMO that would be the most awesome thing that could happen. They should make this a creepy movie, since it was to begin with. Not to mention, the guy can actually act, and despite what you think about him....he's actually a very educated person.
  • burdette
    burdette Posts: 1,194
    edited May 2003
    I saw an interview with Mary... I agree - he came across as intelligent and informed, and able to make his point.

    I don't think I've read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.. isn't the book quite a bit darker than the original film? I thought the Oompa Loompas in the book were almost sort of... ghoulish? Edit.. never mind.. I looked into it, it is and always was a children's book. I must be thinking of some other book.

    I have read Dorothy and the Wizard in Oz.. and there is a lot more to the book than in the movie... much more structure to the story in the book that the movie does not convey.
  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,519
    edited May 2003
    They were actually planning on casting Marilyn Manson as Wonka.

    Actually, this was nothing more than a rumor, no truth to it what-so-ever. He was never considered for the part.


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  • phuz
    phuz Posts: 2,372
    edited May 2003
    Good stuff Ron, thanks for the info.

    Lets hope Elfman does the soundtrack.
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited May 2003
    Actually, this was nothing more than a rumor, no truth to it what-so-ever. He was never considered for the part.

    Not according to him.
  • jeff biggs
    jeff biggs Posts: 18
    edited May 2003
    Well! Burton. Let's see, the giant candy forest at the river of chocolate, the candy is going to come alive and eat the kids. This is going to be a very short movie. Timmy is a weirdo!

    Made a damn fine Batman tho'
  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited May 2003
    WILLY WONKA's FREEMASON CHOCLATE FACTORY
    by Mark David

    For those of you who so gleefully enjoyed the movie Willy Wonka and the
    Choclate Factory as a kid, allow me to explain its meaning and what was
    taught to you. Alot of its meaning may not have meant anything to you as
    a kid, but, I can assure you it means alot to the Illuminati.

    The whole movie is based around a giant choclate factory in which all
    are
    seeking. It is their Quest, to discover the 'truth' of it, much as the
    Rose Cross, or the Order, the Order of the Quest, claim to be in search
    of the Holy Grail, within The Grail Temple which lies inside the Grail
    Chapel, surrounded by, the Grail Forest.

    The whole concept is choclate, and subliminal reasoning now comes into
    play. After eating choclate, one may find choclate still residing in
    their teeth, thus, 'lodged' in their teeth.

    Lodge.

    This is their lodge.

    Surrounding the factory, or, the Grail Castle, are the people awaiting
    entrance, begging for the contents of the inside to be shown to them.
    These people represent the Grail forest, surrounding the Grail Castle.
    Willy Wonka appears. Walking down the parsifal he does something un-
    expected, which commonly occurs within initiations of secret societies.

    The adepts and initiates are brought in, shown certain things, and the
    meaning of these things are explained to them. This occurs within all
    initiations. It is indoctrination and deception.

    There are those not willing, and those people are flushed down shoots,
    turned
    into giant blueberries by the Blue Lodge, thus, terminated.

    At the end, Charlie is offered a position of power because he has
    undergone
    all intitiations. He is illuminated and therefore a member of the
    illuminati.

    We know this is true due to the meaning of the OOMPAS, oompa doobidee
    doo.
    Lets explore this word.

    OOMPAS, when played with, sais MASOOP.
    The first four letters are MASO , four representing the 3 sections of
    the
    Blue Lodge, + 1. 1 represents the item of quest and the hidden one.

    The first letter of the first section is M, which is 1 letter back from
    O, the
    first part of the second section. Therefore, we should
    subtract one letter from our next part, OOP, which inturn makes O an N.
    So we have MASONP.
    Seperated, we have MASON P
    5 letters in Mason, the P represents Parsifal in which Willy Wonka, and,
    the Rosicrucians will walk upon, when they return the earth back to the
    east, the 'choclate factory'.




    Here is a web-site I found:
    http://wonka-is-satan.tripod.com/
    The Candy Man


    Below are song lyrics:




    I've got a Golden Ticket!
    I NEVER THOUGHT MY LIFE COULD BE
    ANYTHING BUT CATASTROPHE
    BUT SUDDENLY I BEGIN TO SEE
    A BIT OF GOOD LUCK FOR ME
    'CAUSE I'VE GOT A GOLDEN TICKET
    I'VE GOT A GOLDEN TWINKLE IN MY EYE
    I NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO SHINE
    NEVER A HAPPY SONG TO SING
    BUT SUDDENLY HALF THE WORLD IS MINE
    WHAT AN AMAZING THING
    'CAUSE I'VE GOT A GOLDEN TICKET
    I'VE GOT A GOLDEN SUN UP IN THE SKY
    I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE DAY
    WHEN I WOULD FACE THE WORLD AND SAY
    GOOD MORNING, LOOK AT THE SUN!
    I NEVER THOUGHT THAT I WOULD BE
    SLAP IN THE LAP OF LUXURY
    'CAUSE I'D HAVE SAID
    IT COULDN'T BE DONE
    BUT IT CAN BE DONE
    I NEVER DREAMED THAT I WOULD CLIMB
    OVER THE MOON IN ECSTASY
    BUT NEVERTHELESS IT'S THERE THAT I'M
    SHORTLY ABOUT TO BE
    'CAUSE I'VE GOT A GOLDEN TICKET
    I'VE GOT A GOLDEN CHANCE TO MAKE MY WAY
    AND WITH A GOLDEN TICKET IT'S A GOLDEN DAY
    'CAUSE I'D HAVE SAID, "IT COULDN'T BE DONE"
    BUT IT CAN BE DONE
    I NEVER DREAMED THAT I WOULD CLIMB
    OVER THE MOON IN ECSTASY
    BUT NEVERTHELESS IT'S THERE THAT I'M
    SHORTLY ABOUT TO BE
    'CAUSE I'VE GOT A GOLDEN TICKET
    I'VE GOT A GOLDEN TICKET
    I'VE GOT A GOLDEN CHANCE TO MAKE MY WAY
    AND WITH A GOLDEN TICKET IT'S A GOLDEN DAY




    Pure Imagination
    COME WITH ME
    AND YOU'LL BE
    IN A WORLD OF PURE IMAGINATION
    TAKE A LOOK
    AND YOU'LL SEE
    INTO YOUR IMAGINATION
    WE'LL BEGIN
    WITH A SPIN
    TRAVELLING IN THE WORLD OF MY CREATION
    WHAT WE'LL SEE
    WILL DEFY
    EXPLANATION
    IF YOU WANT TO VIEW PARADISE
    SIMPLY LOOK AROUND AND VIEW IT
    ANYTHING YOU WANT TO, DO IT
    WANT TO CHANGE THE WORLD
    THERE'S NOTHING
    TO IT
    THERE IS NO LIFE I KNOW
    TO COMPARE WITH PURE IMAGINATION
    LIVING THERE
    YOU'LL BE FREE
    IF YOU TRULY WISH TO BE
    IF YOU WANT TO VIEW PARADISE
    SIMPLY LOOK AROUND AND VIEW IT
    ANYTHING YOU WANT TO, DO IT
    WANT TO CHANGE THE WORLD
    THERE'S NOTHING
    TO IT
    THERE IS NO LIFE I KNOW
    TO COMPARE WITH PURE IMAGINATION
    LIVING THERE
    YOU'LL BE FREE
    IF YOU TRULY
    WISH TO BE




    Oompa Loompa Song #1 (Augustus Gloop)
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DOO
    I'VE GOT A PERFECT PUZZLE FOR YOU
    OOMPA LOOMPA, DOOMPADAH DEE
    IF YOU ARE WISE YOU'LL LISTEN ME
    WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU GUZZLE DOWN SWEETS
    EATING AS MUCH AS AN ELEPHANT EATS
    WHAT ARE YOU AT GETTING TERRIBLY FAT
    WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL COME OF THAT
    I DON'T LIKE THE LOOK OF IT
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DAH
    IF YOU'RE NOT GREEDY YOU WILL GO FAR
    YOU WILL LIVE IN HAPPINESS TOO
    LIKE THE OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DO
    DOOMPADEE DOO




    Wonka's Soliloquy on the WonkaTania
    THERE'S NO EARTHLY WAY OF KNOWING
    WHICH DIRECTION WE ARE GOING
    THERE'S NO KNOWING WHERE WE'RE ROWING
    OR WHICH WAY THE RIVER'S FLOWING
    IS IT RAINING
    IS IT SNOWING
    IS A HURRICANE A-BLOWING
    BLEH!
    NOT A SPECK OF LIGHT IS SHOWING
    SO THE DANGER MUST BE GROWING
    ARE THE FIRES OF HELL A GLOWING?
    IS THE GRISLY REAPER MOWING?
    YES! THE DANGER MUST BE GROWING
    FOR THE ROWERS KEEP ON ROWING
    AND THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT SHOWING
    ANY SIGNS THAT THEY ARE SLOWING!




    Oompa Loompa Song #2 (Violet Beauregarde)
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DOO
    I'VE GOT ANOTHER PUZZLE FOR YOU
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADAH DEE
    IF YOU ARE WISE YOU'LL LISTEN TO ME
    GUM CHEWING'S FINE WHEN IT'S ONCE IN A WHILE
    IT STOPS YOU FROM SMOKING AND BRIGHTENS YOUR SMILE
    BUT IT'S REPULSIVE, REVOLTING, AND WRONG
    CHEWING AND CHEWING ALL DAY LONG
    THE WAY THAT A COW DOES
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DAH
    GIVEN GOOD MANNERS YOU WILL GO FAR
    YOU WILL LIVE IN HAPPINESS TOO
    LIKE THE OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DO




    I Want It Now!
    I WANT A FEAST
    I WANT A BEAN FEAST
    CREAM BUNS AND DONUTS AND FRUITCAKE WITH NO NUTS
    SO GOOD YOU COULD GO NUTS
    I WANT A BALL
    I WANT A PARTY
    PINK MACAROONS AND A MILLION BALLOONS
    AND PERFORMING BABOONS AND--
    GIVE IT TO ME
    NOW!
    I WANT THE WORLD
    I WANT THE WHOLE WORLD
    I WANT TO LOCK IT ALL UP IN MY POCKET
    IT'S MY BAR OF CHOCOLATE
    GIVE IT TO ME NOW
    I WANT TODAY
    I WANT TOMORROW
    I WANT TO WEAR 'EM LIKE BRAIDS IN MY HAIR
    AND I DON'T WANT TO SHARE 'EM
    I WANT A PARTY WITH ROOMFULS OF LAUGHTER
    TEN THOUSAND TONS OF ICE CREAM
    AND IF I DON'T GET THE THINGS I AM AFTER
    I'M GOING TO SCREAM
    I WANT THE WORKS
    I WANT THE WHOLE WORKS
    PRESENTS AND PRIZES AND SWEETS AND SURPRISES
    OF ALL SHAPES AND SIZES AND NOW!
    DON'T CARE HOW
    I WANT IT NOW
    DON'T CARE HOW
    I WANT IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW




    Oompa Loompa Song #3 (Veruca Salt)
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DOO
    I'VE GOT ANOTHER PUZZLE FOR
    YOU OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADAH DEE
    IF YOU ARE WISE YOU'LL LISTEN TO ME
    WHO DO YOU BLAME WHEN YOUR KID IS A BRAT
    PAMPERED AND SPOILED LIKE A SIAMESE CAT
    BLAMING THE KIDS IS A LIE AND A SHAME
    YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHO'S TO BLAME
    THE MOTHER AND THE FATHER
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DAH
    IF YOU'RE NOT SPOILED THEN YOU WILL GO FAR.
    YOU WILL LIVE IN HAPPINESS TOO
    LIKE THE OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DO




    Oompa Loompa Song #4 (Mike TeeVee)
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DOO
    I'VE GOT ANOTHER PUZZLE FOR YOU
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADAH DEE
    IF YOU ARE WISE YOU'LL LISTEN TO ME
    WHAT DO YOU GET FROM A GLUT OF TV
    A PAIN IN THE NECK AND AN I.Q. OF THREE
    WHY DON'T YOU TRY SIMPLY READING A BOOK
    OR COULD YOU JUST NOT BEAR TO LOOK
    YOU'LL GET NO
    YOU'LL GET NO
    YOU'LL GET NO
    YOU'LL GET NO
    YOU'LL GET NO COMMERCIALS.
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DAH
    IF YOU'RE NOT GREEDY YOU WILL GO FAR
    YOU WILL LIVE IN HAPPINESS TOO
    LIKE THE
    OOMPA
    OOMPA LOOMPA DOOMPADEE DO




    Pure Imagination #2 (Voice over at end of film)
    IF YOU WANT TO VIEW PARADISE
    SIMPLY LOOK AROUND AND VIEW IT
    ANYTHING YOU WANT TO, DO IT
    WANT TO MAKE THE WORLD
    THERE'S NOTHING TO IT
    THERE IS NO LIFE I KNOW
    TO COMPARE WITH PURE IMAGINATION
    LIVING THERE
    YOU'LL BE FREE
    IF YOU TRULY WISH TO BE





    Wonka's little song in the Inventing Room
    IN SPRINGTIME
    THE ONLY PRETTY RING TIME
    BIRDS SING
    EH, DING A-DING A-DING
    SWEET LOVERS LOVE
    THE SPRING
  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited May 2003
    Just finished watching one of my favorite unappreciated horror films,
    Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Of course, it’s not an
    unappreciated film, but critics and audiences alike insist on calling it
    a musical, or a kids’ movie. But if the goings-on in Wonka aren’t
    horrific, I don’t know what is. It isn’t the first time, of course,
    that a tale of terror has been presented as a children’s story. The
    supposedly innocent bedtime fairy tales have always been chock-full of
    witches, evil trolls, and other things going bump in the night. Little
    Red Riding Hood, after all, encountered a walking, talking wolf who had
    the presence of mind to find out where she was going and disguise itself
    before she got there. If that isn’t a werewolf, I don’t know what is.
    Hansel and Gretel not only had to face a cannibal witch, but got in
    their predicament in the first place because of a stepmother who
    insisted that her hubby kill the two kids! Pleasant dreams, indeed. But
    I digress.

    The subject is Willy Wonka, and it was a sensitive subject indeed, way
    back in the year of the original book’s release, Library associations
    expressed great distress at the content of Charlie and the Chocolate
    Factory (the original title), and questioned its appropriateness as
    children’s entertainment. The author Roald Dahl (whose other speciality
    was out and out tales of horror suspense for adults), never one to
    suffer fools gladly, referred to the librarians as "silly little
    ****" and offered the view that children themselves could judge what
    they wanted to read. In the end his confidence was justified, as the
    massive and immediate popularity of the book ensured its place on
    library shelves. In the seven years that passed before the making of the
    film version, the tale had become widely recognized as a classic of the
    genre. But what was the fuss about its "inappropriate" nature? What was
    so horrific about Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (which was a
    fairly faithful and only slightly toned down adaptation of the source material)?

    Not much sinister is going on for almost half of the film’s length, to
    be sure. Much of the film is given over to alternating comedy and drama,
    as the contest to find Mr Wonka’s five Golden Tickets proceeds and the
    audience becomes acquainted with the poverty-stricken Charlie Bucket and
    his family. Only minor sidelines to the ominous are present, with the
    first views of the locked-up and rather intimidating Wonka Factory
    grounds, and the eventual appearance of the character who is introduced
    as Mr Slugworth, Willy Wonka’s evil competitor in the candy business.
    Such moments, while atmospheric to be sure, will only frighten the
    youngest of children. So again, where does the horror lie? Ironically,
    things only go awry for the film’s characters once they enter the
    ‘wondrous’ factory of Mr Willy Wonka, guided by the rather odd man
    himself. Although they at first consider themselves lucky winners,
    within the next fifty minutes the five children (each accompanied by a
    parent or guardian) are whittled down in interesting and potentially
    deadly ways until there is only one survivor. Each of the four who does
    NOT make the grade falls victim to his or her own greatest weakness, in
    a kind of grade-school version of Seven. In order of demise we have:

    1. Augustus Gloop, whose gluttony causes him to ignore the warnings not
    to drink from the Chocolate Stream. He rather predictably falls in,
    quickly getting sucked into the plumbing and shot on his unmerry way to
    the fudge-making machinery.

    2. Violet Beauregard, who prefers gum chewing to any other activity,
    grabs a piece of Wonka’s experimental gum, quickly swelling up and being
    turned into a giant blueberry. She is then rolled off by Mr. Wonka’s
    Oompa Loompa assistants, to be JUICED before she can fill up completely
    and explode!

    3. Veruca Salt, who has become accustomed to getting anything she wants
    immediately, during her little musical diatribe about how the world had
    attend to her every need is dropped down a chute (after amusingly being
    judged a Bad Egg by Wonka’s Eggdecator), on her way to the incinerator.
    As Wonka puts it, she has pretty good odds of survival, since the
    incinerator is lit only every other day.

    4. Mike Teevee, whose obsession with (what else?) television makes him a
    rather dull and violence-obsessed little boy, has his greatest wish
    fulfilled when he becomes a living TV signal, transmitted by the
    Wonkavision process to a receiver across the room. The only catch is
    that he is restored as a little six-inch version of himself. Although he
    isn’t terribly upset, and his fate at first seems far less fatal than
    the others’, the true situation becomes clear when Wonka decides that
    the best way to restore the boy to normal is to send him to the Taffy
    Room to be stretched!

    All very ‘magical’ indeed. The contest is revealed to be in fact a test
    to see which child would be most appropriate to take over Wonka’s
    candy-making outfit after his retirement, and Charlie, the only
    survivor, goes literally through the roof (in Wonka’s experimental
    Wonkavator) to a presumably happy future.

    Charlie, a MUCH nicer child than his fellow competitors, asks Mr Wonka
    if the the other children will be all right, and is told by the man that
    they indeed will be, in addition becoming "maybe a little wiser". But
    doesn’t his assurance ring a little hollow? For one thing Willy Wonka
    gives the answer rather quickly and offhandedly, given the fact that no
    one has checked at any time on the fates of the children. Also it is a
    rather odd notion that Willy Wonka, having shown the other children to
    be selfish and untrustworthy, would then allow them to exit his factory
    and run off to his competitors to gush out his secrets. Yes, it is true
    that the man who claimed to be Slugworth is shown to be in actuality an
    employee of Wonka’s and part of the test, but that does not change the
    fact that there is a real Mr. Slugworth waiting in the real world,
    having created Wonka’s need for secrecy in the first place (for the
    doubters, Slugworth’s products are offered at the candy store that
    Charlie frequents during the first half of the film). If the children’s
    fates were instead as originally implied, however, that problem would
    take care of itself, when Wonka took care of them, as it were.

    Also worthy of note is the fact that Roald Dahl was by the time he wrote
    the screenplay to the film very familiar with the concept of giving
    false and winking assurance of a happy ending to an audience. In the
    early sixties many of his short stories were adapted for television’s
    Alfred Hitchcock Presents. To please the TV censors, Hitchcock had
    needed to follow up many of the episodes, which often had endings in
    which killers got away with their crimes, with quick and insincere
    wrap-ups in which Sir Alfred himself would walk onscreen and assure the
    audience that later on the criminals had been punished for their deeds.
    Wonka’s assurance to Charlie seems very much in the same vein. For Willy
    Wonka to actually be ruthless enough to send four children to their
    dooms would of course imply that he is a madman.

    But isn’t there ample evidence of that during the course of the film?
    Wonka is after all, however ‘magical’ his world, a rather dark
    personality. He has no problem at all with sending children and adults,
    good and bad alike, on a terrifying boat ride, surrounding them with a
    disorienting mix of flashing psychedelic patterns and far more sinister
    sights. All in fun, Charlie’s grandpa says at first, before they are
    treated to the sight of a centipede crawling on a man’s face and a quick
    view of a chicken having its head cut off. Just a harmless ride, it
    seems in the end. All of Willy Wonka’s factory is harmless, with
    "surprises around every corner, but no real danger", as he assures
    everyone, very shortly before the ‘accidents’ begin to occur. This is
    the real question about Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, then.
    Just how ‘accidental’ are the fates of the four naughty little children?
  • rskarvan
    rskarvan Posts: 2,374
    edited May 2003
    continued....

    Upon closer examination, the answer appears to be not very accidental at
    all. All part of the test, of course, as it becomes clear at the end of
    the film. But is it really a fair test? After all, Wonka creates several
    situations which cater specifically to some of the children’s greatest
    weaknesses. He makes available to Violet, the gum-obsessed girl, the
    most special piece of gum in the world, then tells her that she
    shouldn’t chew it. He shows Mike Teevee an apparatus that can transmit
    anything, even a person, in the same way that a television signal is
    sent. Is it surprising that the boy takes the bait? And how much of an
    accident is it when Augustus topples into the Chocolate Stream, given
    the fact that Wonka has rushed up behind him, right up against his feet,
    while the boy is leaning over the ‘bank’ of it? In fact, the only
    accident in which Wonka seems to play no part is Veruca’s. When she
    jumps onto the egg scale and is shot down the chute, for once Wonka is
    nowhere near and in that instance seems to be honestly innocent.

    There are also more subtle moments that imply that all is not as it
    seems during the tour of Wonka’s factory. For one thing, most of the
    stops along the way that eventually lead to mishaps involve
    ‘experimental’ products. Although from the beginning of the film it is
    established that Wonka is the world’s greatest candy maker, the products
    shown in the candy store during the first half of the movie are pretty
    much standard chocolate bars, gumdrops, etc. Oddly enough, though, once
    within the walls of his factory the children are exposed to far more
    bizarre items: An exploding piece of candy blasts Mike Teevee off his
    feet. The children get to sample flavored wallpaper. Each child is given
    the Everlasting Gobstopper, which never loses its flavor. Odd that all
    of these products are ‘in development’, especially given the fact that
    many of them lead the children to unfortunate ends. The piece of gum
    simulating a three-course meal turns Violet into a blueberry because it
    "hasn’t been perfected yet" (a fairly extreme understatement). Veruca
    goes to her doom on a machine designed to detect bad eggs, on which are
    placed GIANT solid gold eggs which are laid already filled with
    chocolate, another product which is, to say the least, a bit more
    unusual than the ones shown being sold at the start of the film. And in
    the most extreme example, Mike Teevee is shrunk by a machine that Wonka
    is first shown using to scale down giant chocolate bars to regular
    consumable size. In other words, a machine that has no practical purpose
    at all, other than to interest and lure in the child. (It is also worthy
    of note that the Oompa Loompas, who have up to then in the film been
    shown to be strictly loyal to Willy Wonka, immediately activate the
    transmitting equipment when the boy jumps on the platform and tells them
    to.) In fact, almost all of the dangerous equipment and candy seems to
    serve no purpose other than to be there when the next child is tested
    and fails. The ultimate in duex ex machina.

    But there is a far more telling clue that neither Willy Wonka or his
    tour of the factory are what they seem to be. Oddly enough, it involves
    his wondrous vehicles. Early on, as mentioned, the children are
    subjected to a frightening boat ride. Toward the end of the film, the
    remaining children ride on the messy but fascinating Wonkamobile, as
    their numbers diminish. When the children and their guardians board the
    boat, there are just the right number of seats for the number who
    remain. And when only Charlie and his Grandpa, and Mike Teevee and his
    mother, remain, there are again on the Wonkamobile the exact number of
    seats needed to hold them, and no extra. It then becomes obvious that
    Wonka knew exactly how many children would be remaining at each stage of
    their journey. When the thought first occurs to the viewer it is a
    moment chilling in its calculating incongruity to the outwardly
    lighthearted spirit of the film. Willy Wonka, the supposedly benevolant
    and lovable benefactor, now takes on the appearance of a coldly
    premeditating man, knowing in advance when each child will be eliminated
    from the group. All part of his ‘test’.

    And finally, what exactly is the nature of the test, really? At the end
    of the film Wonka tells Charlie that he knew he’d "be the one". It is
    implied that he means that Charlie would be the honest child, since he
    has just passed the final test by handing back the Everlasting
    Gobstopper, instead of saving it to give to the evil ‘Slugworth’, who
    has offered the boy riches in return for the boy’s help in stealing
    Wonka’s secrets. But upon further thought, up until then the boy had not
    passed Wonka’s test. When left alone, as Wonka pointed out, the boy did
    disobey the man’s orders. He and his Grandpa both tried the Fizzy
    Lifting Drink, after being instructed not to, and then barely escaped
    with their lives when they were almost lifted up into the ceiling’s
    giant ventilation fan. In other words, Charlie had been given one chance
    to prove his honesty, and however more innocent than the others, he had
    failed just like the others.

    So what test is Wonka really conducting? The most obvious answer appears
    to be a simple test of survival. Charlie and his Grandpa were left in
    the room with the drinks not only to see if they would give in to
    temptation, but to see if they would simply survive. If anything,
    Charlie faced the harshest ‘accident’ of any of the children. He faced
    being shredded into bits if he did not figure out a solution to his
    problem. One wonders if he had not done so, would Wonka at the end have
    been explaining to one of the other children in the same less than
    sincere manner that Charlie was somewhere fine, and a little wiser for
    the experience? Why not, given the many other lies and half-truths that
    the man had said during the film?

    The wonder and fun of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, for adults,
    is that all of Wonka’s machinations, and the terrible fates of the
    children, are all presented as subtext, only as real as the viewer wants
    to interpret them as being. It is possible for a child to watch the film
    and take it very literally as written, with the four bad children
    escaping harm and Willy Wonka the kindly if odd magician that he at
    first seems to be.

    But for the horror fan, with only the slightest of effort, it is
    possible to watch the film and be pleasantly chilled by seeing all of
    what is going on just below the surface, with the appropriate and
    extreme punishments being dealt out to the naughty boys and girls, and
    Willy Wonka a charming but obviously unstable plotter of their fates.
    Either way it is the magic promised by the premise, but for those who
    want it to be, it quickly becomes a very dark magic indeed.
  • Billm57
    Billm57 Posts: 689
    edited May 2003
    perosnally I think David Lynch should do a remake of it...
  • GuitarheadCA
    GuitarheadCA Posts: 400
    edited May 2003
    Lets hope Elfman does the soundtrack

    Yes Yes, Good to know there are other Elfman Fans around, I love every score he wrote for hollywood. I also own more than 4 CDs of orchestral music by him. Throw in some Early years of Oingo Boingo, and the man is a musical Genius.

    (Sorry ot sidetrack from the story a bit)