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Jstas
Jstas Posts: 14,807
edited April 2010 in The Clubhouse
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Preach on xkcd!
We're also stuck with blurry, juddery, slow-panning 24fps movies forever because (thanks to 60fps home video) people associate high framerates with camcorders and cheap sitcoms, and thus think good framerates look 'fake'.

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  • edbert
    edbert Posts: 1,041
    edited April 2010
    Funny. I have often wondered the same thing. I have been looking for a new TV for our bedroom but have actually been shopping for a monitor with a built in TV tuner. Some are less expensive for a higher quality screen.
    I know just enough to be dangerous, but don't tell my wife, she thinks I'm a genius. :D

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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,807
    edited April 2010
    If you have a cable box, you don't need a tuner.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,728
    edited April 2010
    XKCD gets a lot right...
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  • edbert
    edbert Posts: 1,041
    edited April 2010
    Jstas wrote: »
    If you have a cable box, you don't need a tuner.


    True enough. It is more because I am toying with the idea of getting rid of HD cable and going OTA. I could get a separate box and switcher, but the WAF starts decreasing exponentially at that point. Thanks for the reminder though!
    I know just enough to be dangerous, but don't tell my wife, she thinks I'm a genius. :D

    Pioneer VSX-816
    Monitor 40's - fronts, bi-amped
    Monitor 30's - surrounds
    CS1 - center
    PSW10 - I'll let you guess
    Blue Jeans Cable - speaker cable
    Daewoo 27 incher - one step up from a console
    Sony Progressive scan DVD
    XBOX

    SOPA since 2008
    Here's my stuff.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited April 2010
    This is dumb ..... I dont get it

    LCD monitors are crap , Just look at the contrast of them because todays 1080s hit around 3.000.000:1

    FYI 24 fps is very smooth and is way better than 60 fps . 24 fps keeps the atmosphere preserved that the director intended

    Jumping the 24 fps to 60 fps makes the movie look like a soap opera also it spoils the tension during certain scenes
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  • yepimonfire
    yepimonfire Posts: 256
    edited April 2010
    60 fps looks way more real, we dont live in a 24fps world now do we? what gives the tension and atmosphere is the filters on the camera lenses. i can guess 90% of the lord of the rings (especially the dark parts) were filmed using either a green or grey filter. imo 24fps causes you to lose tons of detail on fast moving scenes, you just cant see all the minute stuff. and just so everyone knows, soap operas are not 60fps, back when CRT was the main display, they still looked like that and CRTs only have a fps of 30 max.

    oh and just so you know, movies are filmed using 60fps cameras, if your watching your old dvds in P-SCAN mode, your getting full 60fps.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2010
    Not to worry your manufacturers are already envisioning how many times they can get you to upgrade that 1080p. Though HDTV may remain in the 1080i or perhaps get to p on some future programming, Blu-ray players are merely the TIP of a slippery slope UPWARD toward ever finer resolution.

    New digital cameras and film equipment are going to raise resolutions way beyond current blu-ray standards and new DISKS (ULTRA-blu-ray)...will be coming your way. When? That depends somewhat on the 'economy'. If we weren't 'receding' we'd be seeing prototypes by now. Blu-ray 3d is just the TIP of an AV Iceberg.

    Gentlemen....PRESENT your wallets!

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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited April 2010
    ^^^^^I love it^^^^^
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  • Amherst
    Amherst Posts: 695
    edited April 2010
    They can have my wallet....and everything in it.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited April 2010
    it is so much cheaper to stay one or 2 steps behind cutting edge. My 57" rear projector that can do 1080p is fine for me for he next 10 years or so unless a really stupid tv deal tickles my fancy
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited April 2010
    ohskigod wrote: »
    it is so much cheaper to stay one or 2 steps behind cutting edge. My 57" rear projector that can do 1080p is fine for me for he next 10 years or so unless a really stupid tv deal tickles my fancy

    I tend to buy a step behind or so, then keep it until it dies or unless it is severely outdated. My 46" rear projection TV now doesnt even do 720 and is from the mid 90s...haha.

    We're upgrading to, more than likely, a Samsung LED around Black Friday this year.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited April 2010
    I used to be so bad about this, I was upgrading every time something came out. I've slowed down a ton though and just take it easy.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!!!

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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited April 2010
    My boat anchor of a 130lb Sony CRT is going NOWHERE anytime soon. It just doesn't mean that much to me.

    Now the sound is a whole other topic!
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  • Jstas
    Jstas Posts: 14,807
    edited April 2010
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    This is dumb ..... I dont get it

    That's obvious.


    BTW, I have an HD "TV" at home. It's 15+ years old, 19" and is a CRT. It was built by HP, has a .025 dot pitch and is capable of screen resolution higher than my graphics card, which is newer, can provide. But my grpahics card has a TV tuner on it so technically, my 19" HP monitor is an HDTV at least 12 years ahead of "HDTV".
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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited April 2010
    cfrizz wrote: »
    My boat anchor of a 130lb Sony CRT is going NOWHERE anytime soon. It just doesn't mean that much to me.

    Now the sound is a whole other topic!

    i'll have my SDAs powering the soundtrack to my live kukla, fran and ollie soundstage (box)...;) the realism will just blow you over!
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited April 2010
    Sherardp wrote: »
    I used to be so bad about this, I was upgrading every time something came out. I've slowed down a ton though and just take it easy.

    Well that projector you have is still 2 generations ahead of everything on the market
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