Dlp?

Ricardo
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I'm not one to follow the latest trends on TV's; I like a good picture, but the TV is usually the last piece to get upgraded.
Right now my main HT has a 99999999 tons Hitachi 57" monster, 720p. I am pretty happy with the picture.
So, how are DLP's compared to LCD/Plasmas? I saw a Mitsu 60" for less than $900. Pros? Cons?
Right now my main HT has a 99999999 tons Hitachi 57" monster, 720p. I am pretty happy with the picture.
So, how are DLP's compared to LCD/Plasmas? I saw a Mitsu 60" for less than $900. Pros? Cons?
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The bulbs are expensive and they give off a decent amount of heat. I just replaced my DPL with a LED TV and couldn't be happier."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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It will be a few years before I get a LED, and probably will never get a 3D
How long do those bulbs last? In a 1-10 scale, with the LED being a 10, how does the DLP picture compare?_________________________________________________
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pros- larger screen for lower price. the doller per inch ratio is great
cons - will need a bulb replacement at one point mine had 7000 hours on it before i needed to replace it. . They average approx $150 depending on the model. Also they are not wall mountable. they will require a stand at all times.
I have a DLP and love it.Front - RTiA5's
Rear - RTiA3's
Center - CSiA4
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A con for me is the viewing angle. Off axis viewing is suspect at best on the DLP technology.
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As for picture, I would say an 8 for the DLP. Off axis though, is actually better with the DLP than with the LED."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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7,000 Hours? Let's be conservative and use half. 3,500 hours. We probably use that TV an average of 10 hours a week. That gives a little over 6.5 years. So why is this a problem?_________________________________________________
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I've had my 57" Mits 1080P DLP for 4 years. My first bulb lasted over 3 years with daily use. My warranty covered the replacement. I've been extremely happy with the picture quality and like it over any LCD I've seen (and I own one). The higher end Mits w/Diamond Screen have better and deeper black levels, but even the entry level DLPs offer crystaline detail an excellent color depth. It's a more natural picture than some of the iris buning Plasmas. Anyway, I'm a fan. It's been the best TV I've owned and for $900, it's a steal.
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+1 on the dlp. No problems with mine, had it a year now.Panny 8000 project
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Get a projector dude ...... Ive got three of them and I would sell you one lol
A front projector will hammer and tv and improves or reinforces a good audio rig
forget them crappy rear projector deals as they look awefull . You could buy a new 50" 1080i lg plasma for $720 with a 3,000,000:1 contrast -
Dude...I don't want a projector.
The DLP idea is looking pretty interesting._________________________________________________
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Well dlp has a very natural less digital picture compared to the other options and definitely the best route to take for the path you have chosen
I hope you dont mind me asking but why dont you want a pj ? -
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1.-I'm done making/patching holes in ceiling/walls.
2.-Screen would cover breaker panel
3.-I'm done making/patching holes in ceiling/walls._________________________________________________
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had one these a few years ago and its like having a flat screen rear projector tv with a better viewing and and looks like a plasma with the lights on
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Ricardo
My Samsung DLP is about 4yrs old now, same bulb--and we watch ALOT of TV/Movies. I love the picture, color/contrast wise--it's a touch "soft" though. I have a HL-S5086, 50" (720p native). Mine is not the LED DLP, but the lamp DLP. HD content looks spectacular. It's been calibrated with DVE from day 1.
1 downside, the fan can be a little noisy in the back, and emits a quiet hum that can be heard when the volume is fairly low.
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I had my Mitsu 65" DLP for 2 years before the bulb started going out on me (in it's defense, the TV was almost never shut off...ever).
The picture was great, the off-angle viewing was decent, and $2k for a 65" screen?
Priceless.
I have a Samsung LED tv now (see sig), and while the picture is much brighter, I actually miss the DLP sometimes."Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
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My DLP experience pretty much exactly same as Steve's and it's also a Samsung. 4yrs, a little soft on the pic, same bulb, some noise from the fan.
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I have had my Mits 57" DLP for 4 yrs - still on original bulb. Great value for the $$$.[
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I was looking at getting one before I bought my LCD. The only thing that kept me from getting it was the size, and that at the time best buy near me stopped carrying them and there wasn't a store by me that had any.
My friends parents have a samsung DLP and never have had to replace the bulb and have had it for about 4-5 years. There is also sometime deals that you can get where you get a new bulb thrown in with a warrenty such as like best buy I think may offer it but can't remember anymore.
The only down side is they are larger and that sometimes you have to replace the bulb, but the TV itself is pretty light and they do give a good picture and for the money are cheaper than LCD or plasma. -
My mitsu DLP is about 4 years old. Love it, but replaced the bulb after 2 years and am getting ready to replace it again. Also, have had some fan issues. But overall, I think good picture. If you have the space, go for it. I'd stack it up against LCD and Plasma. BTW, I also own two Plasmas as well.
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I'm not one to follow the latest trends on TV's; I like a good picture, but the TV is usually the last piece to get upgraded.
Right now my main HT has a 99999999 tons Hitachi 57" monster, 720p. I am pretty happy with the picture.
So, how are DLP's compared to LCD/Plasmas? I saw a Mitsu 60" for less than $900. Pros? Cons?
DLP Texas is very good. I like the result in plasma.
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I've watched two DLP's extensively in my life, and I don't have ANY love for them. The off angle viewing was so crappy, the colors were not crisp, the blacks were not black, everything was just plain. I have an LCD and it's SOOOO much better. If you look into the technology that produces the picture, it's pretty revealing. I can't remember exactly, but something about a DLP and mirrors and bulbs. I would NEVER purchase a DLP, even with the larger screen for less money. To me, it's like buying a HTIB instead of paying a bit more for a finer product.
That's my opinion, of course.
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Thanks for all the comments. I think my next TV might be a DLP. Need to wait for that 73" to come down on price!!_________________________________________________
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It will be a few years before I get a LED, and probably will never get a 3D
How long do those bulbs last? In a 1-10 scale, with the LED being a 10, how does the DLP picture compare?
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I just ordered a 65" Mitsu for 1100.00 this past week. We have a plasma in the bedroom but for the living room i like a LARGE screen. The price is tought to beat and i don't have to worry about burn in/image retention when playing games and i just plain dislike LCD. LED just not in my price range for a screen.Living Room Rig:D
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Personnally when I shopped and purchased my DLP projector I was warned about potential rainbow effects. According to our general manager not too many people would noticed such but some may. IE: we did extensive test in our shop with the projector I intended to buy. I was told our manager had noticed such during a conference he was operating but after a survey there was no complaint from any of the conference delegates (none of them had notice such effects). Yet, I've owned my projector for a couple years now and never had any issues with such phenomenon. I've taken my projector for family gathering playing HD and non HD movies with great success, nobody ever complained about the quality of the video, quite the opposite.
As far as I am concerned, DLP is quite a valuable option however, I recommend you do extensive demoying to ensure that rainbow phenomenon doesn't disturb you or any of your family members. If you are part of the few people that can actually see the rainbow effect, I can just imagine that it would totally destroy the video experience you are expecting to get in this day and age. As I pointed out, I owned my DLP for 2 years now and I expect they had the opportunity to improve the DLP VQ since.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Light_Processing
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FWIW, my next TV will be 1080p and a plasma; likely Panasonic.
My Panny Plasma is impressive for what I paid. I replaced a CRT so it looks pretty damn good in comparison.
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I've watched two DLP's extensively in my life, and I don't have ANY love for them. The off angle viewing was so crappy, the colors were not crisp, the blacks were not black, everything was just plain. I have an LCD and it's SOOOO much better. If you look into the technology that produces the picture, it's pretty revealing. I can't remember exactly, but something about a DLP and mirrors and bulbs. I would NEVER purchase a DLP, even with the larger screen for less money. To me, it's like buying a HTIB instead of paying a bit more for a finer product.
That's my opinion, of course.
James
DLP was started up big time by Texas Instruments. The technology involves little mirrors that produce the picture ect. The Mustang chip D2 was considered one of the best for black level and picture performance when DLP technology was big with projectors. Models that had them was like the SIM and the Sharp XV-Z12000 and 12K mark 2 (had the D3 chip I think). DLP has progressed a bit and still can compete I think. I personally like the look of some DLP's over LCD but thats just me (in terms of projectors).
With TV's I notice less of a difference from what I have seen in the stores. Now depending on how they run them can make a huge difference. Take an LCD or DLP or Plasma out of torch mode and it will make a difference when you get in back home, sometimes positive sometimes negative. Also calibrating is very important and can really change how a TV looks.