OK, speaking of test tracks -- if you could pick only ONE LP track to evaluate a phono preamp...

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mhardy6647
mhardy6647 Posts: 33,049
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which one would you pick?

This isn't a rhetorical device; I have a sacred duty pending to evaluate a bunch of phono preamps (including, ahem, @mrbiron's :p ). Nothin' in it for me but the glory. :)

It seems to me that the "best" thing to do is to play a specific album track on each candidate and rip (as the kids would say) the result so that easy comparison of the sound (albeit plus any artifacts associated with ADC and then DAC to listen to the digitized results) after the fact, and in perpetuity.

I did this, on a small scale, a few years ago (ahem, yes with a couple of @mrbiron's preamps!), using Dave Brubeck's Take Five. That was OK, but it's a little long and I got tired of hearing it over and over again!

So...

I am looking for suggestions of one track.
  • Well recorded, mastered & pressed.
  • Excellent music :)
  • Not too long
  • Reasonably dynamic (and, ideally, fairly interesting)

I figured that I'd do better to ask some folks for suggestions than to leave it to my own devices!

Thanks for your attention & consideration!

25277999734_db5e0833e2_b.jpgDSC_2913 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
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  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
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    I wish you the best Mark. Anytime I try to evaluate audio equipment using the same track, repeatedly, it eventually becomes fatiguing. Hopefully someone will chime in with a track that’s new to you and fits the bill.
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  • Manticore
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    One of my favorites is the track Free on Stan Kenton Plays Chicago. Absolutely wonderful sounding track, IMHO. There are many really nice recordings on that LP/CD.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    I would recommend any record that is part of the Opus 3 test record series. They are recordings that have a "what you should hear" explanation and can clearly show what's happening (or not happening) in an audio system.
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  • HzTweaker
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    I Robot by The Alan Parsons Project "I wouldn't want to be like you". But any track off that album will be suffice IMO.
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  • tonyp063
    tonyp063 Posts: 1,048
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    Orff.
    Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi: O Fortuna.

    Specifically this pressing

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  • FestYboy
    FestYboy Posts: 3,861
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    A day in the life... Or something from the Moody Blues.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,017
    edited May 2018
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    "Ride Across the River", by Dire Straits.
    https://youtu.be/rSZzyGXCTQk
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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  • msg
    msg Posts: 9,463
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    n/a
    I disabled signatures.
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  • Mikey081057
    Mikey081057 Posts: 7,127
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    Take Five
    My New Year's resolution is 3840 × 2160

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  • Jaybeez
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    My "go to" track for many of my audio decisions is "Hotel California" from the "Hell Freezes Over" album.
    Acoustic guitars challenge the mid-range while the Conga pair reveals the low end.
    "Great Gig in the Sky" from Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon is a keeper as well.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,049
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    Thanks for the suggestions, folks!

    Feel free to add more if the spirit moves you.
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  • muncybob
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    1st track off Crime of the Century from the 1/2 speed mastered record. It may be a bit too long though.
    Yep, my name really is Bob.
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  • dromunds
    dromunds Posts: 9,984
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    Anything by Mark Knopfler.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,017
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    Or Steve Wilson from Porcupine Tree.

    I've read he's a detail oriented writer, producer, and composer. The people in the business say he's a musical genius. :p

    Just like Mark Knopfler. ;)B)
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,352
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    A short great system resolution test is in Pink Floyd / The Wall; The simultaneous kick drum/choked snare at the beginning of The Happiest Days Of Our Lives.
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  • agfrost
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    SCompRacer wrote: »
    A short great system resolution test is in Pink Floyd / The Wall; The simultaneous kick drum/choked snare at the beginning of The Happiest Days Of Our Lives.

    When he/we got done with the soldering of my modded DAC, Rich played this one note through it, pronounced it good, and sent me home.



    :wink:
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,352
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    agfrost wrote: »

    When he/we got done with the soldering of my modded DAC, Rich played this one note through it, pronounced it good, and sent me home.



    :wink:

    Good times! B)

    A demo track from an LP I like to use is from Talk Talk, Colour of Spring, Happiness Is Easy. IIRC it has a 16dB dynamic range. There are four real live percussionists, a closely mic'd bass fiddle, Hollis and his nasally vocals, a children's choir and Steve Winwood on the organ. You can also cue out once the bass fiddle kicks in. Sounds seems to be thrown out until they build and layer it. It is a great transitional album from them.

    Other than that, look to classical for a higher dynamic range.
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  • Msabot1
    Msabot1 Posts: 2,098
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    ANY MFSL track mastered by Stan Ricker...
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  • MrBuhl
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    Porcupine Tree - Blackest Eyes is a recent fave.

    But I love some Knopfler - Making Movies
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  • mikeyb128
    mikeyb128 Posts: 2,885
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    I have the original 1982 Album, and sounds realllly good, the whole album is very dynamic as well.
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  • codycatalist
    codycatalist Posts: 2,662
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    Linda Ronstadt's Por Un Amor from the Canciones De Mi Padre Album is a good reference track for me. Lots going on and recorded very well. Will link the live version but the Vinyl pressing is superb.

    https://youtu.be/rJfXiOrK7t4

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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,049
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    mikeyb128 wrote: »
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    I have the original 1982 Album, and sounds realllly good, the whole album is very dynamic as well.

    I just picked up a copy - finally - about a month ago (believe it or not!).
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  • dromunds
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    I picked up this copy from George Grand a couple years ago, also good SQ edition. I really also like his last two LPs on vinyl.

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  • mpitogo
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    Test deep bass performance I would recommend Solar Sailer from Tron Legacy soundtrack.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
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    Wait....I have a phone preamp?!


    :D
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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  • deronb1
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    Tin Pan Alley
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,049
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    mrbiron wrote: »
    Wait....I have a phone preamp?!




    :D

    ohno, phone, a phono preamp, champ?
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  • mrbiron
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    Auto correct....maybe.... ;)
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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  • mhardy6647
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    mrbiron wrote: »
    Auto correct....maybe.... ;)

    I like your thinking, but we don't have spellcheck on the Heathkit here, you know? ;)

    15947088165_bd40b4f045_b.jpgHeathkit analog computer by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
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  • mrbiron
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    No....no, I don't know. :|

    Like always, I'm just glad to see you are actually using it. The Mrs. And I are meeting with a builder this week which means even less time on my hands.

    Make sure you don't feed it junk food after 8, leave a night light on, and it's always wanted to go to Disney. You can be it's father now :(
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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