Rx-a870 or SR5012

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  • French_guyFrench_guy Posts: 230
    NR1607 or NR1608?
    RTiA5 + CSiA4
    No surround...yet
    Pioneer VSX920
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,491
    I haven’t looked closely at the differences. If the difference is only $50 I would probably go with newest...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,545
    I have a NR1608, and it's not bad, but... 50 wpc vs the SR5012 with 100? I don't know... It has pre-outs, but only for the front. I only bought the slimline model because I have an amp, HT is the secondary purpose of this rig, and, like the OP, it fit better in my cabinet. Don't get me wrong, it sounds good, but it's a noticeable compromise vs the 5012, IMO.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • French_guyFrench_guy Posts: 230
    I will have to take a look and see if i can do some "surgery" on my cabinet, such as cutting the back to have more depth......It's an Ikea cabinet, so no big deal
    RTiA5 + CSiA4
    No surround...yet
    Pioneer VSX920
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,545
    Been there, done that! Both my systems are in Ikea cabinets that have been "modified."
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,491
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    I have a NR1608, and it's not bad, but... 50 wpc vs the SR5012 with 100? I don't know... It has pre-outs, but only for the front. I only bought the slimline model because I have an amp, HT is the secondary purpose of this rig, and, like the OP, it fit better in my cabinet. Don't get me wrong, it sounds good, but it's a noticeable compromise vs the 5012, IMO.

    I Owned the nr1403 and the sr5007 and I agree that there is a noticeable difference, but the calibration was not as good on the nr, whereas the nr1607 is much better in that regard.

    This may help some. Notice he is running floorstanders large: http://i.nextmedia.com.au/avhub/sound-and-image_review-archive_2012-8_Marantz-nr1603-sr5007-review.pdf
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio Nova Integrated; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; LG UP870 4K BDP

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine B, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, Squeezebox Touch
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,440
    French_guy wrote: »
    I will have to take a look and see if i can do some "surgery" on my cabinet, such as cutting the back to have more depth......It's an Ikea cabinet, so no big deal

    Bust out that jig saw and make the Denon fit. Me I build my own stands so I can mod at will and then build another if needed.

    The main thing is stay away from Audyssey XT, if the unit doesn't come with XT32 then it's a no for me now.

    I was at Best Buy digging through the BD bin ($5.99 specials) and checked out the AVR's. The 3400H was sitting right next to the SR5012, both had the same cost of $999. If I was going to spend that much coin I would get the 3400H with Audyssey XT32.
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva BasX-A300
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
  • mdaudioguymdaudioguy Posts: 4,545
    mrloren wrote: »
    French_guy wrote: »
    I will have to take a look and see if i can do some "surgery" on my cabinet, such as cutting the back to have more depth......It's an Ikea cabinet, so no big deal
    I was at Best Buy digging through the BD bin ($5.99 specials) and checked out the AVR's. The 3400H was sitting right next to the SR5012, both had the same cost of $999. If I was going to spend that much coin I would get the 3400H with Audyssey XT32.
    I wouldn't swap an AVR with better EQ for one with better overall sound. That said, they're both fine AVRs. I've heard a lot from both brands and have developed a preference for the Marantz sound.
    7.1 - polk RTi10 x 3 (LCR) : FXi3 x 2 : RTi4 x 4 : Sunfire SDS-12 : Yamaha Aventage RX-A2040 : Adcom GFA-7500 : Squeezebox Touch : DIRECTV : Roku SE : Panasonic PT-AX200U PJ @ 120"
    5.1 - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800 x 4 : ProCenter 1000 : Klipsch Sub-10 : Pioneer Elite SC-91: DIRECTV : LG OLED55B6P : Roku Premiere+
    Garage Duty - polk Monitor 10s : Pioneer A-717 Integrated Amp : Squeezebox Classic
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,440
    edited July 4
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    mrloren wrote: »
    French_guy wrote: »
    I will have to take a look and see if i can do some "surgery" on my cabinet, such as cutting the back to have more depth......It's an Ikea cabinet, so no big deal
    I was at Best Buy digging through the BD bin ($5.99 specials) and checked out the AVR's. The 3400H was sitting right next to the SR5012, both had the same cost of $999. If I was going to spend that much coin I would get the 3400H with Audyssey XT32.
    I wouldn't swap an AVR with better EQ for one with better overall sound. That said, they're both fine AVRs. I've heard a lot from both brands and have developed a preference for the Marantz sound.

    I wouldn't call the Denon 3300X/3400H a lesser AVR than the Marantz SR501X models. The guy I sold my RTi8/CSi5/RTi4/VTF2 setup to has the 3300X. Setup was a snap with XT32 and sounds fantastic.

    Both my SR5010's took some tweaking to get Audyssey XT from correcting strange dips. If I just ran Audyssey it would come out hollow sounding and lacking bass
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    My Sony ES and Onkyo didn't spike the mid-bass like that. To get it corrected I had to put some shop towels in the power-port to flatten it out. It took about 4 or 5 rounds of Audyssey to get the right amount of towels. I wouldn't blame the room as much either, bedroom came out with the same spikes as with the guy I traded my Sony ES for the SR5010.

    Once I got these dialed in, yes they are great sounding units. At the same price point I would get the Denon for two reasons.
    1 Audyssey XT32
    2 That porthole display does get to be annoying

    Marantz made a great unit but under cut it with a bad calibration program. I would like to an A/B between the SR5010 and 3300X/3400H but I just don't have the funding.

    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

    Family Room:
    Samsung UN60H,
    Denon AVR-X4400H, Emotiva BasX-A300
    Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM, Sony DVP-NS3100ES, WD Live HUB.
    Main: Polk Signature S60
    Center: Polk CSi-A6
    Front High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT
    Surrounds: Polk T15
    Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5

    Bed Room;
    Sony KDF-E42A10,
    Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270
    Main: Polk Signature S20
    Center: Polk Signature S35
    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

    Working Warehouse;
    Sony 2100ES
    Polk RTi4 about 15' up the wall
    Old sony 12" Sub
    Mini tower PC with 400GB of music
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