POLK RTIA9 receiver??

So I have just got my pair of POLK RTIA9 for new year from Bestbuy, but I never had a receiver before. I was just looking it up online and I cant decide which one is better for my usage.

So I bought a new 4k TV as well, so I'm looking for receiver that can do the 4k passthrough and wireless connection. What kind of price range am I looking at?

I saw so many cheap receiver on craglist such as the VSX-830-K, Pioneer Receiver VSX-830-K, ONKYO TX-NR616 7.2 Receiver etc, but I don't know which one works and which one doesn't, please help :'(
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,622
    An AVR cannot power those speakers properly, they require a power amplifier, so look for an AVR that has pre outs.
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  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    so I need to get an amplifier on top of the AVR? sorry im newbie on this :(
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,622
    edited January 5
    To properly drive that pair of speakers, yes. If you got the 7's the AVR alone would be sufficient.
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  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    so technically speaking, I can buy any of the AVR listed above and get the proper amp to make it work? what kind of price range am I looking at for the amp please?
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 12,911
    No you cannot buy any of those receivers and have them properly power your 9's. Neither of them have preouts to add a separate amp. You are really going to have to up your budget, or thing about getting used gear.

    It still won't be cheap, but better gear = having your speakers operate to their full potential, which will make you happy in the long run.

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  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,212
    If music is the primary purpose, you could start off with just this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-RX-V2500-Hi-End-Model-FM-AM-AV-Receiver-Amplifier-Great-Condition/152842835600?epid=50634581&hash=item2396249690:g:4ncAAOSw8apZgBKD

    It is a pretty stout receiver, tested well at audioholics and other places, and is neutral to slightly warm, which is good for your speakers. Plus it has preouts so you can add a beefy amp when funds permit. And that is a very good price. Any universal remote will run it.

    If you want HDMI, look for a 2600 or higher.
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  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,212
    edited January 5
    Even better, has HDMI 1.3 and a remote:

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-RX-V1800-7-1-Channel-130-Watt-Receiver/352216964712?epid=62078291&hash=item5201c45e68:g:CDQAAOSwxzdZ6lkg

    Not quite as powerful, but you still can use it for a while and then add an amp down the road. The 2500 might give you a little more cajones in the bass and slightly better dynamics, but not by much. I personally would go with the newer model...which is the 1800...
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Parasound HCA-1205A; Arcam rDac; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Def Tech Procenter 1000; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; Sony BDP-S390, FireTV gen 2

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine Mini, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, FireTV, Arcam rDac; Bryson BPD-1
  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    Ty for helping, I'm mainly looking at used gears now since I've just bursted 2.5k on the speakers and TV alone :/ there r sooooooo many to choose from but I've no idea how they work. Here is the list of AVR I'm looking on craglist
    Pioneer VSX-1131-K
    Pioneer Receiver VSX-830-K
    Denon AVR 889 7.1
    ONKYO TX-NR616 7.2 Receiver

    So none of the them works
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,212
    The pioneer will work, but I owned a similar one and the non-elite pioneers just sound wimpy and sterile compared to comparable denon, marantz, and yamahas.

    You need one that had at least six rca (red and white) outputs labeled either 5.1 or 7.1 preouts. This will allow you to add an amp down the road.

    If the TV is 4K with ARC and you want to use the built in apps to view 4K content but also want to best sound then you are in a different league and it is going to cost you to get both a solid amp with preouts and ARC. But if the TV also has a digital optical output, then you could use that to get sound from an older receiver.

    Get your read on, figure out what you need (or help us help you) and tell us your budget and we will spend it x2 lol...
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    Master Bedroom
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,074
    oscar6220 wrote: »
    Ty for helping, I'm mainly looking at used gears now since I've just bursted 2.5k on the speakers and TV alone :/ there r sooooooo many to choose from but I've no idea how they work. Here is the list of AVR I'm looking on craglist
    Pioneer VSX-1131-K
    Pioneer Receiver VSX-830-K
    Denon AVR 889 7.1
    ONKYO TX-NR616 7.2 Receiver

    So none of the them works

    Nope, none of them works on their own. The A9's are power hungry speakers, and most receivers simply don't have the power they need. That's why you need a receiver with pre outs, that enables you to add a power amplifier.

    You can hook them up to any of those, and music will play, but turn up the volume and your putting in jeopardy burning up the speakers, or receiver, or both.
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    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    Onkyo HT-R690 receiver Works?? Or is there any key words to find one that has 5.1/7.1 preout? Like a specific brand??
    Ty
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,510
    edited January 5
    My Pioneer SC-63 would be about as good as you could hope for in powering those a9 off a receiver. It might still be higher than your desired budget though at $350 plus shipping.

    It also has preouts so you can add a dedicated amp later.
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  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 12,911
    edited January 5
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    Ok, here is a pic of the HTR690 Without preouts

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    Here is a pic of one of Onkyo's newer receivers that does have preouts to add separate amp.

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  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,132
    Can't tell you to find them but soon bunch of Outlaw 975s will come up on the used mkts as their owners are/will upgrade to the just released Outlaw 976.
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  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    DSkip wrote: »
    My Pioneer SC-63 would be about as good as you could hope for in powering those a9 off a receiver. It might still be higher than your desired budget though at $350 plus shipping.

    It also has preouts so you can add a dedicated amp later.
    DSkip wrote: »
    My Pioneer SC-63 would be about as good as you could hope for in powering those a9 off a receiver. It might still be higher than your desired budget though at $350 plus shipping.

    It also has preouts so you can add a dedicated amp later.

    I can't tell really find any used Pioneer SC-63 at my area :/ I'm in vancouver if it helps. I mean if it's very good, I don't mind paying $400 tbh.
    Is it going to be a waste if my receiver doesn't have 4K pass through and I have a 4K TV or if there's other alternatives:"( I'm pretty stressed about it now
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,074
    There is no new receiver in the 400 buck range that can adequately drive the A9's. Plus your looking at another roughly 400 for a used amp. Your best option , cost wise, is to look for a used Pioneer SC receiver. That will get you by until you save the coin for an amp as long as you don't go nuts with the volume dial.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • nguyendotnguyendot Posts: 3,583
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  • dolbyddolbyd Posts: 256
    DSkip wrote: »
    My Pioneer SC-63 would be about as good as you could hope for in powering those a9 off a receiver. It might still be higher than your desired budget though at $350 plus shipping.

    It also has preouts so you can add a dedicated amp later.
    tonyb wrote: »
    There is no new receiver in the 400 buck range that can adequately drive the A9's. Plus your looking at another roughly 400 for a used amp. Your best option , cost wise, is to look for a used Pioneer SC receiver. That will get you by until you save the coin for an amp as long as you don't go nuts with the volume dial.

    Agreed.
    This is a good option for your 9’s. The last thing you want to do is clip the speakers and have repairs.
    The volume dial will need to watched for sure.
    We all have experience with what your speakers will need.
    They are awesome speakers for theater but it takes coin to make them their best and last for years to come.
    Some have learned the hard way.

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  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    So there's no other option other than the MARANTZ
    SR5011 and Pioneer SC 63? I found both of them on the east coast but shipping will be another headache
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 29,074
    edited January 6
    Those are suggestions, shipping won't cost that much. You can look in your own area too. Your local craigslist, US AUDIOMART, HIFI Shark, just some places to start.

    Basically you have too much speaker for the electronics you can afford. Might be better to return the 9's for the 7's. Which then you can use just about any of those other receivers.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    Tad 803 bookies
    Polk 500 surrounds
    Polk s35 center
    SVS SB-2000
    Sonos

    Music-

    Joule la-100 pre
    B&k 1403 amp
    Cary xciter dac
    Cullen modded Sonos
    ERA D5 bookies

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    edited January 7
    Marantz SR5010 $750 or Refurbished SR5011 $650 are they fair price just wondering, ty... I kinda like the look of the Marantz, are they decent? :)
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,212
    Yes, those are excellent receivers. I would get the newer refurb version due to video specs. That’s seems like a high price to me, but stuff seems to be more expensive up there!
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    Denon AVR-X4200w; Parasound HCA-1205A; Arcam rDac; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Def Tech Procenter 1000; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; Sony BDP-S390, FireTV gen 2

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine Mini, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, FireTV, Arcam rDac; Bryson BPD-1
  • rooftop59rooftop59 Posts: 4,212
    If you can get it shipped to you, this is very similar to the marantz (denon and marantz are owned by the same company, though they are developed in different departments by different people):

    https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/denavrx3200w/denon-avr-x3200w-7.2-ch-x-105-watts-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html
    HT Rig:
    Denon AVR-X4200w; Parasound HCA-1205A; Arcam rDac; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10 + MartinLogan Dynamo (original) sub; Center - Def Tech Procenter 1000; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - SVS PB10-ISD; Sony BDP-S390, FireTV gen 2

    Master Bedroom
    Marantz SR-5007; Audiosource Amp Two, PSB Imagine Mini, Boston VR-10 center, NHT Super One CI surrounds, ACI Titan subwoofer, FireTV, Arcam rDac; Bryson BPD-1
  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    alright, I think I'll go w the refurb SR5011. Is there anything else I need to buy or something I need to keep in mind? ty for everyones help, appreciated!
  • oscar6220oscar6220 Posts: 15
    one more question, if I buy a basic 14-Gauge Speaker Wire - 50 Feet, can I cut them in half, 25 to the left and 25 to the right?
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 9,844
    oscar6220 wrote: »
    one more question, if I buy a basic 14-Gauge Speaker Wire - 50 Feet, can I cut them in half, 25 to the left and 25 to the right?

    Personally I'd go with 10 or 12 gauge if just using basic wire. Why would you need 25ft. to each?
  • Jimbo18Jimbo18 Posts: 1,725
    Return the RTi A9's and get the RTi A7's and use the savings towards a good AVR. Like @F1nut said, you can get by with just the AVR that way.
    Modest HT - Pio Elite SC-63, RT800i, CS400i center, RT25i surrounds, Def Tech PF 15TL+, Belkin PF30, Samsung UBD-M7500.
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  • Viking64Viking64 Posts: 2,543
    Jimbo18 wrote: »
    Return the RTi A9's and get the RTi A7's and use the savings towards a good AVR. Like @F1nut said, you can get by with just the AVR that way.

    Jimbo18, that dog is awesome! :)

    - Jimbo64
  • mrlorenmrloren Posts: 1,337
    Jimbo18 wrote: »
    Return the RTi A9's and get the RTi A7's and use the savings towards a good AVR. Like @F1nut said, you can get by with just the AVR that way.

    I agree with the above, better yet get the A5 and a better AVR
    When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.

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    Samsung UN60H,
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    Rear: Polk R15
    Sub: HSU STF-2

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