Arnie Nudell: True pioneer of High End Audio has passed...RIP

Arnie Nudell, has passed away from complications of pneumonia. The family laid him to rest on Monday, November 20, 2017.

https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=bd5baa3af039b1bce8455f635&id=ed91e3e3bd

https://www.stereophile.com/content/arnie-nudell-infinity-genesis
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  • Tony MTony M Posts: 5,452
    Yup, he WAS one of the top speaker designers and sub "servo" designers.
    I think him and his buddies were like Matthew Polk and his buddie. Just on a different but equal playing field in certain ways.

    Garage designers, Visionaries and dream followers and who MADE their dreams come true.

    I just read about him in your link. Definitely a great and top speaker designer in our lifetime.

    What a life he had !

    His passing is a loss to the audio world for sure.

    R.I.P. Mr. Nudell..
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • Tony MTony M Posts: 5,452
    edited November 2017
    I'd love to find a set of these at a yard sale ! What a design but there is that $70K set he helped design too.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/INFINITY-IRS-BETA-SPEAKERS-PAIR-ORIGINAL-PRISTINE-FLAWLESS-S-Ns-G001551-54/263318947143?hash=item3d4f084547:g:~Y8AAOSwPc9W0mqv
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • KennethSwaugerKennethSwauger Moderator Posts: 6,462
    That is certainly sad news. He was directly responsible for me getting interested in perfectionist audio. I met him first when the Baltimore audio shop I worked for decided they wanted to sell Infinity speakers in the very early '70's. Arnie flew in from Chatsworth, CA. to check us out. Myself and two other friends, who would later become my partners in an audio shop in Silver Spring, took Arnie out for a tour of the city. His suggestions on what would really make his speakers sound their best led us to discover Audio Research and the trail for better sound began. Decca cartridges, Rabco tonearms and modifications to Dynaco ST70s and PAS3X all were from him. He later hosted our fledgling company at the CES, then held in Chicago, and introduced us to J. Gordon Holt, Saul Marantz, Lincoln Walsh, Rudy Bozak and Bill Johnson.
    Everyone who derives enjoyment from their audio systems owes a nod to Arnie "Noodle" and the other pioneers.
    I'm still trying to find the particular amp he suggested was the best.
    "And the house you live in will never fall down
    If you pity the stranger who stands at your gate" G.Lightfoot
  • nooshinjohnnooshinjohn Posts: 17,670
    Bob Carver was hugely influenced by Arnie as well...

    Nudell: “The ideal speaker would be a line-source dipole because of the way it interacts with the room. A line source—if it's narrow enough—has very wide horizontal dispersion, which is exactly what you want, but has no vertical dispersion whatsoever. So it comes out like a sheet of sound at every frequency. And of course there are no floor or ceiling bounces, which are some of the most severe problems in direct-radiating loudspeakers. The first floor-bounce kills the midbass, the ceiling kills some of the ambience in the room. And when you add the first side-wall bounce, all of a sudden you're hearing a muddying combination of the room and the loudspeaker.”

    Bob did exactly this with his newest speaker.

    Mr. Nudell was simply the best, far ahead of his time, and everybody even remotely interested in high performance audio has been touched by his work.

    Rest In Peace sir, and thanks.
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  • Msabot1Msabot1 Posts: 2,088
    Wow...That folks is a TRUE loss...He left a legacy though..no doubt about that..RIP....
  • DSkipDSkip Posts: 14,567
    That is certainly sad news. He was directly responsible for me getting interested in perfectionist audio. I met him first when the Baltimore audio shop I worked for decided they wanted to sell Infinity speakers in the very early '70's. Arnie flew in from Chatsworth, CA. to check us out. Myself and two other friends, who would later become my partners in an audio shop in Silver Spring, took Arnie out for a tour of the city. His suggestions on what would really make his speakers sound their best led us to discover Audio Research and the trail for better sound began. Decca cartridges, Rabco tonearms and modifications to Dynaco ST70s and PAS3X all were from him. He later hosted our fledgling company at the CES, then held in Chicago, and introduced us to J. Gordon Holt, Saul Marantz, Lincoln Walsh, Rudy Bozak and Bill Johnson.
    Everyone who derives enjoyment from their audio systems owes a nod to Arnie "Noodle" and the other pioneers.
    I'm still trying to find the particular amp he suggested was the best.

    Thank you for that Ken. Relationships are what make this hobby great for me and getting the inside scoop on guys like this is always welcome.
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  • Msabot1Msabot1 Posts: 2,088
    There's a Polk connection with him. The Polk built Eosone speakers were designed by him.

    Yea..I have a pair of those RSF 600's that I got cheap and hook up sometimes..still sound pretty dang good too...Anyway,I think Arnie was the spawn of extraterrestrials...that is the only thing that could explain his genius...
  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,012
    There's a Polk connection with him. The Polk built Eosone speakers were designed by him.

    Far out who knew. Ken you are a wealth of valuable information.
  • KennethSwaugerKennethSwauger Moderator Posts: 6,462
    When I met Saul Marantz I must have looked pretty awestruck he saw the expression on my face and smiled and was the kindest person. Just couldn't have been nicer, a total gentle person. He was helping Jon Dahlquist introduce his speakers, certainly a good introduction.
    If the Eosone speakers were carefully matched to associated electronics and setup properly I imagine they would sound terrific. They reminded me of early Infinity speakers, like the POS1.
    Any body remember the Infinity 1001 or 2000A (which I bought as an accommodation from Infinity)? My two partners had more money so they each bought the legendary Servo Static speakers. I was using a Marantz 8B at that time.
    "And the house you live in will never fall down
    If you pity the stranger who stands at your gate" G.Lightfoot
  • Msabot1Msabot1 Posts: 2,088
    Those 600's have a kind of flexible foam/rubber used on the driver surrounds..not the butyl rubber that my 10b's have...still as old as they are,they seem to be holding up well enough..I drive them with a variety of amps....and they do sound pretty decent..I read somewhere where Arnie incorporated some of the Genesis technology into them..what that was,I can't tell you as those two systems are as different as night and day..
  • Very interesting hearing the interconnected/related stories.
    I like Mr. Nudell's way of thinking:

    "it would also bring together two dissimilar segments of our industry. It's a crazy fight we have. We have the logical positivists who say measurements are the only things that matter, and if you can hear stuff you can't measure, then it's a bunch of **** baloney. The other segment—which is most of us in the High End—knows things sound differently, and we all hear the same differences, but we don't understand why there are those differences. It would be nice to bring the two camps together. There's no doubt we know more now than we did then about certain things. But do we know more about amplifiers? I don't think we do.

    MrBigBlueLight
    Here to pick your brain & steal your cookies
    Shifting to Plan B+
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 39,783
    We're all indebted to his genius. RIP
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


  • txcoastal1txcoastal1 Posts: 9,656
    Great stories and info KenS....TFS
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 10,012
    Got so caught up in the stories i nearly forgot
    RIP Mr. Arnie Nudell a true audio genius
  • gp4jesusgp4jesus Posts: 1,137
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    Arnie Nudell, has passed away from complications of pneumonia. The family laid him to rest on Monday, November 20, 2017.

    https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=bd5baa3af039b1bce8455f635&id=ed91e3e3bd

    https://www.stereophile.com/content/arnie-nudell-infinity-genesis
    Loved the Stereophile interview!

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