Polk Audio SDA SRS - Clarity : Duelund : Jantzen : DH Labs

VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
edited February 22 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
This is my 2nd SRS build using these components, I modified the chassis particularly for this build. This is the first time I also built a DH Labs Q-10 SDA cable :)

Clarity Cap MR through out except in the larger values where ESA was used

Duelund resistors

Jantzen inductors + C-Coil

Supra Internal Wiring, WBT binding post

DH Labs SDA cable

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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    edited February 22
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    Compared to standard SDA SRS
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  • zingozingo Audiophile Posts: 11,567
    Fantastic! I love Jantzen components and DH Labs wiring; nice choice.
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    Thank you! I am a huge DH Labs fan, but the Q-10 at like $25 or something a foot is up there, I used it for my super towers though and I would put the sound quality with MIT....

    I don't go into pricing on the forum but feel free to shoot me a PM or check out my website :)
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    The first build is "The Abbott" and the second one is "Monastery Standard"
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    edited February 23
    Most definitely! The Abbott builds are my favorites to do. I actually have another SDA SRS Abbott that will be coming out in the next few months, same price point but will use the new CMR and CSA capacitors and the Duelund Cast resistor set... should be a slight notch over the current Abbott... should have pictures in May or so

    I also do deposits/payment plans :)
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    So in regards to the standard and the Abbott...

    I always describe all modifications as "removing a blanket" from the speakers. The standard fall into that description, everything kind of opens up, detail is brought out, bass is extended, sound stage is wider, etc etc etc...

    The best way I can describe the Abbott from the Standard build is that the speakers start to disappear and what you are left with is a 3-D presentation of what is in the recording. You start to hear the shape, resonance, texture of a guitar, who is holding it, where they are in the room, depth to their scale compared to other instruments/musicians in the mix.

    From a "detail and transparency" standard, I would say a standard build is 85-90% of that. From the stand point of transporting you to the mix versus listening to a set of speakers, the Clarity Cap MR has no competition. It is one of the best experiences I have ever heard, especially after break in.

    Phil @Moose68Bash actually wrote up a review going from one of my standard builds to an Abbott build. He really captured the difference with his words.

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/167764/review-vr3-mods-s-monastery-level-the-abbot-srs1-2-to-srs12tl-conversion#latest

    The SRS differs from the 1.2 and 1.2TL all the way down to the enclosure, I wouldn't particularly recommend trying to shoe horn a 1.2TL into a SDA SRS shell personally due to the driver, enclosure, etc differences.

    I do have a set of 1.2TL here that I am offering 20% off an Abbott build, plus the modifications themselves are less than the SRS Abbott build....

    So as an example, you can take the 1.2TL, modifications installed for only around a $1,000 more than the SRS modification... just an example.

    On the flip side, I cant determine if with hearing loss one is worth more than the other...

    I hope that helps... :)
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    I just wrote up a really nice response.... and it didn't load up here for some reason...

    I don't really like "over-selling" things - Phil @Moose68Bash actually did a standard build like the Monastery standard to the Abbott on a pair of 1.2TL... his write up is here -

    http://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/167764/review-vr3-mods-s-monastery-level-the-abbot-srs1-2-to-srs12tl-conversion#latest

    For me personally, I feel detail and transparency wise, the standard build is 85-90% of the Abbott... on the flip side I feel from the stand point of making the speakers disappear, texture, 3-d reproduction, the Abbott components take it to a whole new level. It is one of the only experiences where I would call it "being there" - you can sense the size, shape of a guitar, who is holding it and where, the texture of everything. It is hard to describe. I did a similar modification to my own personal speakers back in 2011 and that is why I am still doing it here today.

    I cant decide though if the differences are worth it for you unfortunately, I take a lot of pride in my work and I think you would enjoy it. I do appreciate your service and sacrifice.

    On the flip side, I do have a set of 1.2TL, that when purchased with modifications, the modifications are 20% off. You could literally have a set of Abbott modified 1.2TL (installed) for a little over a $1,000 more than the SRS Abbot build by itself... :)

    I hope this helps (hopefully this response posts)
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    On that response I missed one of your questions, I apologize.

    The SDA SRS is different down to the enclosure, I wouldn't personally recommend updating the SRS to the 1.2TL
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  • ptrooperptrooper Posts: 203
    VR3 wrote: »
    This is my 2nd SRS build using these components, I modified the chassis particularly for this build. This is the first time I also built a DH Labs Q-10 SDA cable :)

    Clarity Cap MR through out except in the larger values where ESA was used

    Duelund resistors

    Jantzen inductors + C-Coil

    Supra Internal Wiring, WBT binding post

    DH Labs SDA cable

    (Polk logo was used at the request of the owner and is not offered under normal circumstances, will be blurred out on my website when posted)

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    Thanks Trey. These Arrived today here downunder ,they were professionally packed to absorb any sort of high velocity impact which we all know is truly needed in this day and age
  • ptrooperptrooper Posts: 203
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    Glad they arrived safe! 70 pounds in crossovers is no joke hehe
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  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,300
    ptrooper is going to be very happy man. B)
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  • ptrooperptrooper Posts: 203
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    Rings are back from the powde coaters so all systems are go
  • Toolfan66Toolfan66 Posts: 13,379
    Very Nice!!!
    Death Grip...
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    Those turned out great!
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  • machonemachone Posts: 831
    I like it!
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

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  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    I like'em too.
    Not trying to be a buzz kill,but since they're going inside the cabinets and can't be seen from the outside. Why powder coat them?
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,300
    So they do not develop surface rust.
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  • honestaquarianhonestaquarian Posts: 1,858
    Ah I see
    Living room Home theater: Upgrade Company modified Onkyo PR-SC5509,Sunfire Cinema grand Signature 5 channel amp(1st gen),Carver TFM-45,Carver M-400a,Panasonic TC-P50ST60 50" Plasma(last gen before Plasma production stopped)Pioneer Elite DVL-91,Oppo Digital BDP-103,TiVo Roamio Plus,Nakamich BX-300,Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type VxMR cartridge,Polk SDA-SRS 3.1 TL(with RD-0198 tweeters),Polk CS-1000P(with SL-6506 tweeter),Polk Monitor 5jr(with RD-0194 tweeters),Polk RT-35i (1),Polk Mini Monitor,Polk PSW150(2),Monster Power HTPS 7000 MKII Signature series,Monster Power AVS 2000 Signature Series,Various MIT,Monster,Upgrade Company and Belden interconnect,power,HDMI,Coax and Toslink Digital and speaker cables.

    Bedroom 2 channel system:Integra DTM 40.4,Nakamichi BX-100,TiVo mini,Musical Fidelity X-LPS,X-PSU,Carver TFM-25,Sony KV-34XBR970(last of the widescreen tube sets before production stopped)Technics SL-1200MKII,Shure V15 Type V MR cartridge,Polk RT-55(with SL-6506 tweeters),Polk PSW-200 in plexiglass(2),Sony Playstation 3 slim.Monster Power HTPS-5100MKII,Various Kimber,Audioquest and MIT interconnects and speaker cables.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 38,300
    It's really not a big deal. The surface rust on a set of rings I installed years ago is next to nothing. Now, if you lived in a hot, humid climate without air conditioning or at the beach I'm sure it could become an issue after many years.
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  • ptrooperptrooper Posts: 203
    edited March 23
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  • machonemachone Posts: 831
    Nice!
    Mojo Audio Joule v5>>Quantum Byte w/JRiver 21 and Fidelizer>> Starlight 7 USB >> Marantz SA 8005>> Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-110 Preamp + (Musical Concepts LXII Elite Mod) >>Equinox 7>>
    Hafler DH-500 Amp+ (Musical Concepts PA-6 Elite Mod) >>Belden 5000 10 ga cables>>
    SRS 2.3TL (Fully Modified)...SDA-1A (Fully Modified with Dimensional Tweeter Delete)
    1KVA Dreadnought
    Pioneer PLX-1000 Turntable - Shure SC35C/N35X - V15III/VN35HE
    Yamaha TX-540 Tuner...Sony BDP-S570

    Separate subpanel with four dedicated 20 amp circuits.
    1. Amplification 2. Analog 3. Digital 4. Video

    "All THAT IS LOST FROM THE SOURCE IS LOST FOREVER"
  • Moose68BashMoose68Bash Posts: 3,465
    Magnifico!
    Family Room, PS Audio PW Transport, DirectStream DAC; AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux SM6 MKII Pre; AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux Prisma 750 Amps or CAT 600.2 Dualmono Amp, Morrow SP7 Speaker Cables, SDA SRS 1.2tls (RD0198s, Dreadnought, Black Hole 5, Acousta-Stuf, Dynamat Extreme, JBWeld. Vr3 Mods: "The Abbot" Monastery-Level Xovers, Custom Internal Wiring, Binding Post Plates, & SDA ICs).

    Exercise Room, Wadia 171 iPod Dock, PS Audio PerfectWave MkII DAC, AQ Sky XLRs, Perreaux SM6 Preamp, AQ King Cobra RCAs, Perreaux PMF3150 Amp, Dreadnought, Supra Rondo 4x2.5 Speaker Cables, SDA 1Cs (Vr3 Mods Xovers).

    Synology 713+ NAS on Gigabit LAN serving PW MkII DAC & DirectStream DAC.
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    Thanks guys! Those plates look great on the speakers!
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  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    Clarity Cap CMR and CSA - will look slick on the white chassis!

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  • la2vegasla2vegas Posts: 2,056
    1976doc wrote: »
    But unless he pulls the x-overs out to show his buddies, how can he show off the beautiful craftsmanship?

    That's what pictures are for. :)
    2.3TL, 3.1TL, SDA II, 7B, 7C, 7 series 2, 10B, 5JR+, 5JR, 5A, 4.5, RTA 11T X2, RTA 8T, LSI9, LSI7, RTI A7, RTI A3, CSI A4, CSI A6, F/XI A4, RTI4. That's all for now.
  • VR3VR3 Posts: 21,839
    lol, thank you :)

    I had a customer a few years had me do a build with a window and a blue led light, that was a lot of fun... :p
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