Carver Silver Seven TUBE Amps on ebay

TNRabbit
TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
edited May 2010 in 2 Channel Audio
Holy Cow!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140400767925
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2010
    I wonder how much the reserve is. Will be interesting to watch.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2010
    innaresting,, think they'll hit 20K?
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited April 2010
    Absolutely. I'm betting on upper $20k's.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2010
    are these the same ones that James had at CF 09? He had so many it gets confusing.
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited April 2010
    Not sure.
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  • virtualdean
    virtualdean Posts: 286
    edited April 2010
    Yes! I could be seduced to the Dark Side for this and swear off SS forever.
    What a collection of anolog eyecandy.:D
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited April 2010
    This might be the new set they got from CA. All I know is that I cannot afford to buy them.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited April 2010
    I believe these are one's that he picked up after CF2009.
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  • woodsman10b
    woodsman10b Posts: 408
    edited April 2010
    All i know is that i want them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Most of them only hear how loud it sounds, and the rest of us hear everything else - :rolleyes:
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    edited April 2010
    these should bring 32-35k
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited April 2010
    Are those vintage Emotiva?
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited April 2010
    I am gonna place a bid for $20,000. Should feel good.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    edited April 2010
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Are those vintage Emotiva?
    :rolleyes::p:p:p


    Good one, but all the Emo's on earth could not touch one set of these.:D
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited April 2010
    For all that money, there has got to be better sounding new amps. Or, cheaper amps that sound as good, no?

    I take it these amps are like buying a rare sports car? It's not that it drives better than new sports cars, but nothing quite rides like it?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    edited April 2010
    You will be hard pressed to find a better amp, regardless of price. Those that have heard them will all say the same thing.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    You will be hard pressed to find a better amp, regardless of price. Those that have heard them will all say the same thing.

    They are certainly not bad amps,,and yes,,I've heard them on more than one ocassion,,are there better amps,, dunno,, different, yes,, tubes,flavors,,etc.
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited April 2010
    For that price go with MBL ....:rolleyes:
    I like most in my ear. I consider it better:D
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited April 2010
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    For all that money, there has got to be better sounding new amps. Or, cheaper amps that sound as good, no?

    I take it these amps are like buying a rare sports car? It's not that it drives better than new sports cars, but nothing quite rides like it?

    Maybe Bob could do another challenge..against himself? :D:p;)

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited April 2010
    If 18 large won't buy them, it's possible they may not make reserve on eBay.

    I love rare, vintage gear (and have some rare Carver gear). But, for that outlay, I'm getting something new and/or custom built.
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited April 2010
    remember it's still got a week to go. Most real bidding is in the last 1/2 hr.
    engtaz

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,416
    edited April 2010
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    Maybe Bob could do another challenge..against himself? :D:p;)
    Bob would win, hands down.:cool:


    IMHO these amps still rate in the upper echelon of amplifier design. They broke new ground in tube amp design and performance. They are "vintage" but hold their own even today among the world's best.
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited April 2010
    For that price go with MBL ....:D
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  • BlueMDPicker
    BlueMDPicker Posts: 7,569
    edited April 2010
    I'm a big fan of Dr. Bob and his designs, but..........

    20K range. Delivered, setup, and voiced in your listening room by the designer. I ran his original design hybrids (Counterpoint) for years and loved them driving maggies.

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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited April 2010
    As much as I appreciate Bob Carver's work...

    Although, IF I had that kind of expendable funds, I'd probably buy them. Just to make sure they are well kept and appreciated. They are a piece of history...
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  • TNRabbit
    TNRabbit Posts: 2,168
    edited April 2010
    From the owner over at carveraudio.com:

    "Evidently, there seems to be some concern about the fact I was running the tube amps with no load (no speakers connected)
    In fact, this IS a concern for the majority of tube amps. However, none of the Carver tube amps are affected by this.
    The majority of tube amps WILL go into oscillation if there is no load placed on them. The Silver tube amps will NOT.
    The circuit Bob designed is so stable, you can run these amps with an input signal... no load, and they will just sit there and purr away.
    Where the majority of tube amps will start popping tubes like they are cheap light bulbs.

    The other question I got was, Why is the right meter reading 0, as where the left bias meter is reading .2
    The answer is, I took some of the photos before the output relay engaged on the right amp. The meters stay at 0 for about 4-5 minutes while the tubes are warming up.
    The left amp was turned on before the right amp was. I saw a spot that needed dusting, and wound up turning on the right amp a few minutes later than the left.
    Yes both meters work perfectly, and both read the same bias, around .2

    I'll ask Bob to write up a little something on the circuitry and stability of the Silver amps, and post it here later."
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    Sunfire Cinema Grand Signature Seven
    Carver AL-III Speakers
    Klipsch RT-12d Subwoofer
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,663
    edited April 2010
    I'm sorry but I like tubes showing, not caged. :)
    engtaz

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2010
    TNRabbit wrote: »
    From the owner over at carveraudio.com:

    "Evidently, there seems to be some concern about the fact I was running the tube amps with no load (no speakers connected)
    In fact, this IS a concern for the majority of tube amps. However, none of the Carver tube amps are affected by this.
    The majority of tube amps WILL go into oscillation if there is no load placed on them. The Silver tube amps will NOT.
    The circuit Bob designed is so stable, you can run these amps with an input signal... no load, and they will just sit there and purr away.
    Where the majority of tube amps will start popping tubes like they are cheap light bulbs.

    The other question I got was, Why is the right meter reading 0, as where the left bias meter is reading .2
    The answer is, I took some of the photos before the output relay engaged on the right amp. The meters stay at 0 for about 4-5 minutes while the tubes are warming up.
    The left amp was turned on before the right amp was. I saw a spot that needed dusting, and wound up turning on the right amp a few minutes later than the left.
    Yes both meters work perfectly, and both read the same bias, around .2

    I'll ask Bob to write up a little something on the circuitry and stability of the Silver amps, and post it here later."

    Good point,, I have a pair of VTL mono's,, which I bias without any load connected,, the manual advises against this,, the service tech says,don't worry,,just do it,, I did,, no issues at all,,however I was taught that you never power up a tube amp without the load,, go figure. I suppose that Ted said it best,, they are a piece of history,, limited production,,IIRC Mr Carver said something like 50 pairs were built IIRC.
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • Bernal
    Bernal Posts: 991
    edited April 2010
    BlueMDPicker wrote: »
    I'm a big fan of Dr. Bob and his designs, but..........

    20K range. Delivered, setup, and voiced in your listening room by the designer. I ran his original design hybrids (Counterpoint) for years and loved them driving maggies.

    WebShotMainsRGBTrans.jpgOpenSide350XL2.jpg


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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited April 2010
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    You will be hard pressed to find a better amp, regardless of price. Those that have heard them will all say the same thing.

    I would disagree. You want high power tubes? Carver is perfect and I'm sure the sound quality is excellent. But if I'm paying $20K for tubes for my horns, those amps would not be it.
    Jake
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  • AudioGenics
    AudioGenics Posts: 2,567
    edited April 2010
    " This amazing set of amplifiers has been taken out of 10+ years of storage. "

    going on a treasure hunt for old tube amps in storage........
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